How do you decide which Clickbank Product will sell on your blog?

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mousumi

Product testing is such a confusing task..Can anybody, who's been selling ClickBank products, give me some tips?

Yes ... here they are: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

But 67 hops is far too small a number to measure whether or not it's selling.

On the other hand, don't expect to sell many ClickBank products without building a list and promoting them by email: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6737670

You also probably need the product(s) you select to be as closely-matched as possible to the known interests of your blog's targeted readers/visitors.

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kenzik 12 years ago

Rough statistics (check the math on google) but if your product converts at 1% you need ~300 hops before you'll know if it is working. It will take time for the variance to work itself out as well. Even with a 1% conversion, you could go 1000 hops before you get your first sale, and then suddenly get 9 hops that convert in a row.
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Willie Crawford

12 years ago

I always look closely at the sales page, asking myself
does it make ME want to by the product... assuming
I'm the ideal customer.

If the copy stinks, or is unbelievable, etc., then I don't
promote that product. I assume that my readers are
going to have same gut reaction to it.

I also agree with all of the other things said.

Willie

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birdie28a

12 years ago

I agree 67 hops are probably not enough to make a determination yet. When I select CB products I always look at the info that CB provides, I also look at what type of sales material the owner of the site is offering that affiliates.

It also depends on the type of traffic that is coming to your site.

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Randall Magwood

12 years ago

Wait until you get more traffic (300 mark) before making a definitive decision to stop or switch the campaign.

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Mousumi

12 years ago

Now the clicks on the Ad seems to have gone down to just 6 (as of half day today)
Here is what I picked up:
My blog features articles on the following:
Personal Success and Motivation
Entrepreneurship
Biographies
and Life-affirming Stories

I assumed, it is mostly visited by young people so I published an ad "Get the Best Grades with the Least Amount of Effort"

I looked around for some products on "Life Coaching", "Self-mastery" and "Internet Marketing Tutorials and tips" but couldn't find any good product. Some are there but the price tag is between $300 and $500...I chose a cheap and simple one with good reputation.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Understood ... but I think if your visitor interests are personal success/motivation, entrepreneurship and life-affirming stories, you need to find a much better "demographic match/overlap" than "get the best grades". It's a time-consuming business, going through ClickBank's Marketplace to identify suitable products, but it can be time very well spent, and especially if you want to find "hidden low-gravity gold-dust" (which you should want!), there's just no realistic alternative.

But what really matters is to promote whatever ClickBank product(s) your promoting by list-building, because the reality is that it's going to terribly difficult to make more than the occasional sale by direct-linking from a blog to a ClickBank sales page: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6737670

These things typically need a whole "pre-selling process", not just a link.

To summarise it really succinctly, ClickBank products sell by relationship-building much more than they do "on a blog".

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Mousumi

12 years ago

Thanks for the link Alexa

Could you please explain demographic match/overlap to me?

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Understood ... but I think if your visitor interests are personal success/motivation, entrepreneurship and life-affirming stories, you need to find a much better "demographic match/overlap" than "get the best grades". It's a time-consuming business, going through ClickBank's Marketplace to identify suitable products, but it can be time very well spent, and especially if you want to find "hidden low-gravity gold-dust" (which you should want!), there's just no realistic alternative.

But what really matters is to promote whatever ClickBank product(s) your promoting by list-building, because the reality is that it's going to terribly difficult to make more than the occasional sale by direct-linking from a blog to a ClickBank sales page: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6737670

These things typically need a whole "pre-selling process", not just a link.

To summarise it really succinctly, ClickBank products sell by relationship-building much more than they do "on a blog".

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mousumi

Thanks for the link Alexa

Could you please explain demographic match/overlap to me?

Yes - sorry.

I meant to say that I think the overlap between the type of people who'll visit your site and stay to read it, and the type of people who are the intended market for the product you're promoting is much too small.

Some of the people interested in success stories and biographies are young people. Some young people are somewhere in the educational system. Some people in the educational system may be interested in a "Get The Best Grades" product. But the targeting isn't accurate enough. In terms of "targeting your market", I think what you're doing now compares badly with (just as an example) someone with a blog called "Get Rid Of Eczema" promoting a product called "How To Get Rid Of Your Eczema Now". Their overlap ought to be close to 100%, but yours is going to be much lower, I think. The proportion of your visitors who are "eligible to buy" that product isn't high enough.

I'm also wondering whether using a ".co.in" domain may cost you some potential customers in America (particularly) and in other English-speaking countries, but I don't know enough about this for that feeling to be any more than a suspicion. I do think you might be better off with a .com, or .org, or even .info, domain.

(I'm not even talking about SEO, above - but there's actually an SEO issue there, as well, if you're targeting international traffic).

But, again, most important of all, I think you won't make (m)any sales of ClickBank products without building a highly targeted list from highly targeted traffic, simply because very few people do. I do this for a living: I can't do it without building lists, and respectfully, I don't think you will, either.

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Mousumi

12 years ago

Thanks very much for sparing time for me Alexa

The example makes sense to me now..By the way, the visitors from India amount for less than 25% of total traffic....A great majority of traffic come from the U.S. Canada, Australia, U.K. and Japan.

The traffic has been this way ever since I started the blog about 10 months back....and 90 % traffic are organic.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes - sorry.

I meant to say that I think the overlap between the type of people who'll visit your site and stay to read it, and the type of people who are the intended market for the product you're promoting is much too small.

Some of the people interested in success stories and biographies are young people. Some young people are somewhere in the educational system. Some people in the educational system may be interested in a "Get The Best Grades" product. But the targeting isn't accurate enough. In terms of "targeting your market", I think what you're doing now compares badly with (just as an example) someone with a blog called "Get Rid Of Eczema" promoting a product called "How To Get Rid Of Your Eczema Now". Their overlap ought to be close to 100%, but yours is going to be much lower, I think. The proportion of your visitors who are "eligible to buy" that product isn't high enough.

I'm also wondering whether using a ".co.in" domain may cost you some potential customers in America (particularly) and in other English-speaking countries, but I don't know enough about this for that feeling to be any more than a suspicion. I do think you might be better off with a .com, or .org, or even .info, domain.

(I'm not even talking about SEO, above - but there's actually an SEO issue there, as well, if you're targeting international traffic).

But, again, most important of all, I think you won't make (m)any sales of ClickBank products without building a highly targeted list from highly targeted traffic, simply because very few people do. I do this for a living: I can't do it without building lists, and respectfully, I don't think you will, either.

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Shirley-Ann

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Shirley-Ann

How do you get people to join your list, if they are already making money online with "Clickbank" products?

I don't quite understand what you're asking here - sorry!

(None of my customers/subscribers is "making money online with ClickBank products". They're not marketers.)

Originally Posted by Shirley-Ann

Where do you find the buyers of "ClickBank" products?

They're not buyers when you attract them. They're "potentially interested people". You gradually turn them into buyers.

You attract targeted traffic (people with interests in exactly the same niche as the product you're promoting), opt them in, build a list of them, communicate with them regularly and reliably, establish credibility and built their trust in you, and then recommend the product. Some people will buy it because they trust you. And if they like what they bought, they'll then buy other things, in future, from your recommendations (that's where the real money is).

Originally Posted by Shirley-Ann

If I use ClickBank products in blogging I get deleted.

I think you must be blogging on a site you don't own and control yourself, where someone else's terms of service are catching you out?

If you have your own domain and hosting, there's nobody to "delete" your posts or blogs or links. You're the boss. If you're using "Blogspot" or something similar, you're not.

Originally Posted by Shirley-Ann

Why are there many successful and others like me that fail with it every month.

That's a big question. And not easy for anyone to answer confidently without seeing everything you've done. But I think it's a reality that only a small proportion of people who try genuinely understand the basics of selling ClickBank products. And some people who look at them think to themselves something like "Well, let's hope this doesn't apply to me, and I'll try in my own ways anyway". Which tends not to work. Here are the essentials, if they help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6737670
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Black Hat Cat

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Shirley-Ann

How do you get people to join your list, if they are already making money online with "Clickbank" products? Where do you find the buyers of "ClickBank" products?

I have been trying this for more than 5 years and I have not taken home a check yet but hear of you all being so successful every single month. Its very discouraging, but I continue to press on. If I use ClickBank products in blogging I get deleted. If I use Google Adsense I get disabled. Where do I find the genuine ClickBank or Paydotcom buyers that are most willing of buying the products? Is there a people within a particular group that is looking for you or I to send them products to review to buy?
Why are there many successful and others like me that fail with it every month. This sounds like it all to do with luck but I don't believe it all ends up to be that a few just get lucky. If it is all in the list, than there is a set people waiting to pay someone.

Please don't take this the wrong way, because I'm not saying it to be rude, but.....have you actually looked at the sites in your sig? I'm sure you have, but take another look anyway. Now take a look at some of the sites of those you believe are being so successful every single month. Do you notice a difference? If you don't make a change and improve the quality of those sites, you're likely going to see another 5 years pass without taking home a check.

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shane_k

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Shirley-Ann

How do you get people to join your list, if they are already making money online with "Clickbank" products? Where do you find the buyers of "ClickBank" products?

I have been trying this for more than 5 years and I have not taken home a check yet but hear of you all being so successful every single month. Its very discouraging, but I continue to press on. If I use ClickBank products in blogging I get deleted. If I use Google Adsense I get disabled. Where do I find the genuine ClickBank or Paydotcom buyers that are most willing of buying the products? Is there a people within a particular group that is looking for you or I to send them products to review to buy?
Why are there many successful and others like me that fail with it every month. This sounds like it all to do with luck but I don't believe it all ends up to be that a few just get lucky. If it is all in the list, than there is a set people waiting to pay someone.

Ok I had a look at your sites also and yea they can use some work.

Another thing that I noticed and I would change if I were you is when I went on the sewing places site you have a huge paragraph about you making money.

I think you should take that whole paragraph out. Why?

Because when someone visits your sewing places site they are interested in sewing. They aren't interested in you making money.

That's like going into a restaurant and the owner coming up to you and saying, "Well I build this restaurant so I can sell food so you guys give me money."

People wouldn't care about that. They just want to eat.

What I would do if I were you is look at the sites of others who are successful and see what they are doing so you can get some ideas on what else to do.

Actually you could even start a thread and ask people to look at each of your sites and ask for advice on what changes do they think you can make to help you out. You will probably get some good tips.

Also if you have any questions don't be afraid to start a thread and ask.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by OnlineDJ

CHOOSE YOUR PRODUCT BY GRAVITY OR MOST POPULAR. D.J.

Please excuse my sounding perhaps a little terse and confrontational, but both of these really are totally misguided and ill-informed suggestions.

:rolleyes:

Gravity gives absolutely no indication at all of how a product is selling, how many people are promoting it or how well it converts. (Nor does it even pretend to). And popularity gives absolutely no indication of how easily you're going to be able to promote it.

These threads will help you, DJ, if you're willing to read them rather than spreading misinformation ...

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2495251

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6823216

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7002369

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...k-gravity.html

PS - there's no need to post in UPPER CASE LETTERS! :rolleyes:

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FelixUng

12 years ago

From an internet user point of view, I usually ignore all the banners when reading blogs and most probably the same is going on with yours. It is important that you build a list as well as a good relationship with your visitors/subscribers.

I find it very true that people do not buy product, rather they buy trust. They will only purchase your product when they believe that your product can help, no matter how good/bad the product is.

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goldclubmember

12 years ago

Below is how I increase the chance of CB sales

1.) Your product has to be somehow related to your blog. If your blog is about dog training, then you should look for dog training products in CB. If you are selling a ‘get your ex back’ ebook on a dog training blog, I can 100% guarantee that you will have low conversion rate.

2.) Promote a product that has gravity of 30+ or more. I personally will not promote any product that is less than a gravity of 80.

3.) Offer bonuses that are related to your product. Visitors may check through a few reviews before they make the final buying decision. If you have bonuses, it will attract them and visitors may bookmark your site and purchase from your aff. link later .

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