I know a guaranteed way to make money. Do you want to know?

by fin
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I was speaking to someone else about this the other day and thought you might be interested. This is how I grew my business and started making money.

I spoke about building a foundation, and I'm going to tell you how you can't fail at making money.

What you will need:

A decent domain name
An auto-responder
A decent theme
Some content
A niche that's profitable
Follow-up messages
A good product to promote
A well written freebie

That's your FOUNDATION.

The next part gets a little funny, but just try to follow along.

You send a little traffic to your site using any traffic method.

You keep testing the opt-in box until you get a decent conversion.

You then move onto the follow-up messages and play about with them until you get a good open rate.

You then make an offer and play about with the copy until you get a good conversion.

You then look for better ways to drive traffic (to a sales funnel that's already converting).

You then start focusing your content on what the readers want.

THIS IS NOW A MACHINE!

You have a FOUNDATION, but you can focus on each part individually until your making the money you want:

Opt-in conversion
Follow-up messages
Offer conversion
Traffic methods
Content

You already have a converting blog and you just play about with each part to make more money. Eventually you can add more products into the funnel and your profits will accumulate.

But you need that FOUNDATION.
#guarenteed #make #money
  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    After 20 minutes of no replies, I'm really hoping that this means that newbies read the advice and immediately started taking action and testing as you suggest. Of course, you're also suggesting work and effort. That's a no-no, so they might just be ignoring you. Bumping it anyways.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      After 20 minutes of no replies, I'm really hoping that this means that newbies read the advice and immediately started taking action and testing as you suggest. Of course, you're also suggesting work and effort. That's a no-no, so they might just be ignoring you. Bumping it anyways.
      lol, yeah it does take effort so maybe they would rather not do it.

      But if people were just to concentrate on each stage they would eventually make money, even if it took years.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeyXoto
      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      After 20 minutes of no replies, I'm really hoping that this means that newbies read the advice and immediately started taking action and testing as you suggest. Of course, you're also suggesting work and effort. That's a no-no, so they might just be ignoring you. Bumping it anyways.
      Definitely the foundations right there. Whether anybody follows, god knows. But that right there is the model that works; then it's all about scaling it up in the right places to grow it further. This is the exact model I use.

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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

        Of course, and I agree.

        The problem is that 4,500 newbies will read this, then go about spending 6 months looking for a "nice theme"

        Meh, common sense. Whatever happened to it? :p
        John, you're numbers are wrong.

        4,000 of them will start threads asking if anyone can point them to a [niche] theme, and all 4,000 will be told to buy Thesis...
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    First off, I'm wondering how Joe's IM level keeps going up so fast.

    Where you farming all that xp, man?

    And second- there are 7 figure marketers that still follow this same formula. Making money online doesn't have to be complex.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      First off, I'm wondering how Joe's IM level keeps going up so fast.

      Where you farming all that xp, man?

      And second- there are 7 figure marketers that still follow this same formula. Making money online doesn't have to be complex.
      If you've played an RPG, you know the early levels are nice and easy. It's already getting harder to move up though. After 7 it's taking a few days to week to "level up". But hey, grinding for a fake number is more fun than constantly checking the PayPal balance!

      Originally Posted by fin View Post

      lol, yeah it does take effort so maybe they would rather not do it.

      But if people were just to concentrate on each stage they would eventually make money, even if it took years.
      Very true, I don't think it would take years either (well, at least to start turning a profit). I think it takes a certain mindset to be able to follow what you outlined though, otherwise everyone would have a business. Redshifted pretty much covered it in this thread (which I just noticed you participated in and made the point I'm trying to make already):

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-how-make.html

      Originally Posted by Nio93 View Post

      Actually.. all you need is traffic.
      ...plus the ability to turn that traffic into leads, those leads into sales, and those customers into repeat buyers (or alternatively the ability to constantly replace those buyers if there is no available backend).
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  • Profile picture of the author gpwilson
    It 's a great idea. But i want to share my experience with you. While i was making my website, my main focus was the desire of my targeted customers. What they need and how i would help them through my site. Now i am also successful like you. Because all of my customers find out what they want in my site.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by gpwilson View Post

      It 's a great idea. But i want to share my experience with you. While i was making my website, my main focus was the desire of my targeted customers. What they need and how i would help them through my site. Now i am also successful like you. Because all of my customers find out what they want in my site.
      I'm not saying you should ignore your customers wants.

      That's a basic blueprint, but there's other things involved.

      I just think it's sad how people try for years and eventually fail, but if they just stuck to this method they would be making a good profit in those 2 years.
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    • Profile picture of the author shane_k
      Originally Posted by gpwilson View Post

      It 's a great idea. But i want to share my experience with you. While i was making my website, my main focus was the desire of my targeted customers. What they need and how i would help them through my site. Now i am also successful like you. Because all of my customers find out what they want in my site.
      I would say that what you mention could technically fall under any of these headings.

      Some content
      A niche that's profitable
      A good product to promote
      A well written freebie
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffonmission
    Absolutely true 100%. Beyond the business benefits, it's also the most rewarding of the methods especially if you learn to genuinely connect with your list. I think this is why people in the WAHM niche are so successful because they seem to really enjoy connecting with others and helping them out.

    You can make a major impact in peoples' lives going down this route and open up some pretty awesome opportunities. Sad that we get diverted from this so quickly!
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  • Profile picture of the author LetsGoViral
    Sorry, no such thing as "guaranteed". The only thing in this life "guaranteed" is death.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

      Sorry, no such thing as "guaranteed". The only thing in this life "guaranteed" is death.
      Not what Buddhists seem to think.
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    • Profile picture of the author Myles Sinclair
      Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

      Sorry, no such thing as "guaranteed". The only thing in this life "guaranteed" is death.
      And don't forget tax! Lol
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    • Profile picture of the author KaplanT4
      Originally Posted by LetsGoViral View Post

      Sorry, no such thing as "guaranteed". The only thing in this life "guaranteed" is death.
      Another guarantee is if you work with proven laws that have shown to get results, then you will as well if you work in sync with those laws.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    No one ever made money because of a "good theme"
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      No one ever made money because of a "good theme"
      I don't think he intended any part of the process to be standalone, Johnny (at least if I understand what Jamie was going for correctly). I think a good theme helps in conjunction with everything else, but on it's own you're right: not making anyone a penny.

      It comes down to the whole optimization thing, playing with the look of your website until you figure out what brings about the desired result. If it can be tested, it should be tested.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

        I don't think he intended any part of the process to be standalone, Johnny (at least if I understand what Jamie was going for correctly). I think a good theme helps in conjunction with everything else, but on it's own you're right: not making anyone a penny.

        It comes down to the whole optimization thing, playing with the look of your website until you figure out what brings about the desired result. If it can be tested, it should be tested.
        Of course, and I agree.

        The problem is that 4,500 newbies will read this, then go about spending 6 months looking for a "nice theme"

        Meh, common sense. Whatever happened to it? :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

          Meh, common sense. Whatever happened to it? :p
          Two letters were left off of "common" when they coined the term .

          I agree as well. Even though Jamie outlined this as a "foundation" which should invoke the idea of combining all of these things into a solid block (I think of a giant slab of business concrete), newbies will pick and choose and then obsess over certain bits because 1. Someone else told them that was more important 2. They're subconsciously self-sabotaging or 3. They're just dummies.
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          • Profile picture of the author shane_k
            Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

            Two letters were left off of "common" when they coined the term .

            I agree as well. Even though Jamie outlined this as a "foundation" which should invoke the idea of combining all of these things into a solid block (I think of a giant slab of business concrete), newbies will pick and choose and then obsess over certain bits because 1. Someone else told them that was more important 2. They're subconsciously self-sabotaging or 3. They're just dummies.

            Not only should "foundation" invoke the idea of combining all of those things into a solid block, but hopefully it also invokes the idea in people that it's something that you can build on.


            So hopefully more people will look at fin's post and instead of nit-picking, or saying, well you missed this or that, or you are wrong that is not that important, or well I think this is more important than what you mentioned, they instead look at this as what it is, a "foundation" a good "starting point" and they can then tweak it and adjust from there as they learn and grow themselves.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      No one ever made money because of a "good theme"
      I think it's very important if someone doesn't know a lot of coding.

      A decent premium theme will make it easier for people to tweak it.

      If you're testing other things you should also test the actual design.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I think it's very important if someone doesn't know a lot of coding.

        A decent premium theme will make it easier for people to tweak it.

        If you're testing other things you should also test the actual design.
        Its nice to have, but its not important.

        Im pretty sure the Egyptians when building the pyramids didn't stand around worrying about how many straps they had on their sandals.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

          Its nice to have, but its not important.

          Im pretty sure the Egyptians when building the pyramids didn't stand around worrying about how many straps they had on their sandals.
          That's because the slaves needed to be whipped. Takes 100% focus.

          Couldn't resist.
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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

          Its nice to have, but its not important.

          Im pretty sure the Egyptians when building the pyramids didn't stand around worrying about how many straps they had on their sandals.
          Neither is open rates important. Just drive more traffic, right?

          A good theme will be constantly updated (old themes might be faulty with future Wordpress updates), better coding, responsive for mobile sites, support/forums where you can ask for help, etc.

          There's lots of reasons why I would recommend a decent theme. I think it's important for starting a business the right way, and it's my post so I can write what I want :p.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Silvey
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      No one ever made money because of a "good theme"
      One principle I cover in one of my ebooks which is at the editors now is over visual stimulation.

      There are 3 properties that influence mood either consciously or sub consciously.

      Color
      Images
      and Geometrical shapes.

      The meanings of these change through time and culture.
      White for instance means purity, wisdom. But on the web it loses its meaning. It is neutral until it is added to a shape.

      A gothic black theme reflects chaos.

      A purple site would cater to feminine nature. Good for the ladies.

      Images such as waterfalls promote peace.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    I can testify that this guy is CORRECT.

    Fascinating how a certain percentage (albeit majority) will NEVER find this combination?

    Lol.

    Some people will always get stuck.

    ;D
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  • Profile picture of the author Denise Harland
    I hoped it already answers all of the questions from newbie here.
    That's a little annoying when so many thread containing "How can I make money xx bucks/day", "what's the fastest way to make money".

    Definitely you need to foundation to make money, and op has already done good job in this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pole
      That is correct my friend. I agree with 'foundation.' It is essential for organic online marketing and making some money!
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  • Profile picture of the author EnterIn
    I totally agree (for once!). I like this method because it is list building centric. WARNING: Cliche coming up. Yes. The money really is in that list. Especially when you have a great relationship with that list. Another thing which took me quite a while to get my head around is the fact that it's pointless to send traffic anywhere except your opt in page, atleast in most cases.
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  • Profile picture of the author Make Money Ninja
    Depends on the niche, but yeah this works, always has, always will...

    Some SEO sites there is no value in getting an opt in because the site is so targetted to one small thing.

    But if your operating in any niche where people want information or a solution to something, this is pretty much a must.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheEliteWarrior
    Great post Fin
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  • Profile picture of the author rfuture2009
    this does seem to be sound advice as this is what I a striving to accomplish at this time... it takes constant effort.... in one direction only - forward
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    thats my basic internet marketing plan - i just bought one domain name and then realized it is not in a good niche (grandtheftgta.com) so i am not sure if i should continue working on it or what.
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