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Old 03-25-2009, 02:39 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

I know this will have been discussed many, many times on here before but I wasn't sure what to search for.

Basically, I've put together a product to sell and I'd like to use Paypal as the payment method.

What do I need to do in order to have everything up and running? i.e - when payment is made product gets sent to the customer, etc etc.

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It's very easy. Create paypal premier or business account. In merchant services area, create buy button. While creating buy button you can see 3 steps.

In 3rd step (customize advanced features) you can have a link to your product download page which will automatically redirects the customer to your download page once payment completed successfully.

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Oh, okay. Thanks. I didn't realise it was that easy.

What's the best way to get buyers onto your list afterwards? Can you set up an automated email that sends out after a purchase is made or is it better to include an opt in form on the thank you page?

(Sorry for the noob questions I've never sold my own products before)
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Oh, okay. Thanks. I didn't realise it was that easy.

What's the best way to get buyers onto your list afterwards? Can you set up an automated email that sends out after a purchase is made or is it better to include an opt in form on the thank you page?

(Sorry for the noob questions I've never sold my own products before)
You can't setup automated emails that sends out after purchase through paypal. However you can have opt in landing page as download page (link given as download page while setup buy button), so the buyers will be redirected to opt in page once purchased and then they have to opt in to your list to access the actual product.

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You can't setup automated emails that sends out after purchase through paypal. However you can have opt in landing page as download page (link given as download page while setup buy button), so the buyers will be redirected to opt in page once purchased and then they have to opt in to your list to access the actual product.
Okay, that sounds good. Thanks!

Now this may be a silly question.. but I'm selling some MRR products that come with a pre-made sales page I can use. This includes a "buy now" button that fits in with the color scheme of the sales page.

When I create a "buy now" button on Paypal does that mean I can't use the other image?
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Hi Pat

You can edit the HTML that PayPal produces for you to change the "Buy Now" button image to one you host yourself (The default PayPal image is hosted by PayPal).

I have also seen some sales templates where the PayPal process was already built-in, you just need to enter your PayPal address (and perhaps price) into some configuration fields and you're good to go. You might want to check the HTML of the template you're using, or any "read me " file attached to it.


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One other thing...

You may want to consider using e-junkie to store your downloads ( the product you have the MRR rights for). They integrate with PayPal and provide your customer with a link (via e-mail) that they can use for a limited time to download the product. This limited link prevents (or at least reduces) people sharing download links with their friends.

E-junkie Shopping Cart for selling downloads & tangible goods

Their service is very inexpensive and it will also integrate with your list building efforts.

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Hey Pat,
After you've created the PayPal account, you might want to look into E-junkie, who offer inexpensive shopping carts, secure digital product delivery, and affiliate tracking services for ~$6.00/month.

If you're looking to have your users automatically receive opt-in email, E-junkie offers easy integration into AWeber. Essentially, as soon as a customer purchases, the email address they purchase with is sent an opt-in request. This reduces your dependence on the customers clicking even more links after they've purchased something.

Both companies are quite reputable and well-known throughout the industry. E-junkie's support are very responsive considering the low, low price point. While AWeber is a bit more expensive than some of their competitors, their delivery rates, customer service, and feature-rich administrative interface are what keep me coming back.
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Thanks both of you!

I was initially just going to have an opt in form on the thank you page but I'm looking at e-junkie now and it definitely looks worthwhile.

Bill, I'll have a play around with the HTML, I thought it would be something along those lines..

I'll no doubt be back soon when I can't figure something out, haha.

Thanks again!
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Glad to help Pat, the HTML should be pretty easy - if you're unsure about it feel free to PM me!

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Default Re: Setting Up Paypal

this is a very useful thread (sure one just like it exists, but it doesn't hurt).

well done to all those who posted responses. very concise and clear to understand for any noob. love that. im so not techie even tho i do this stuff almost daily it would take me hours to explain it (ok maybe not hours but it wont be that easy to rat out) so well done again.

Pat hope you got all u need, and get started soon. Love seeing proactive folks just doing it. way to go. and best of luck.

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I was helping someone integrate E-Junkie and AWeber earlier today and took some notes. If you do decide to go this route, they might come in handy. If not, hopefully they'll be of use to someone else. There seem to be two major stumbling blocks, both of them are very easy fixes, but the answers take some digging around on E-Junkie and AWeber's websites.

Integrating AWeber into an E-Junkie Digital Product
When a transaction occurs through E-Junkie's shopping cart system, you have the option to send a series of transaction details (name, email address, etc) to a number of 3rd party services like AWeber.
  1. Log in to E-Junkie's administrative control panel.
  2. Click view/edit/delete products from the main menu list.
  3. Select the product you'd like to add integrate with AWeber and click Edit.
  4. Directly above the price, you'll see a checkbox with the text Send transaction data to a URL. Check it and click Next.
  5. You should see a text box with the title Payment Variable Information URL above it.
  6. In that box enter:
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    http://www.e-junkie.com/ecom/o_plug.php?&aweber=LISTNAME@aweber.com
    where LISTNAME is the name of your actual AWeber list. So, for example, if my list name was somenichelist, then I'd enter the following into the box:
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    http://www.e-junkie.com/ecom/o_plug.php?&aweber=somenichelist@aweber.com
  7. Click Next and then on the following page click Submit.
Okay, so now every time that someone purchases that product from you, their information will be sent to AWeber who will in turn send them an opt-in email. Easy enough, but how does AWeber know how to deal with this information? That leads us to....

Adding E-Junkie Email Parser to AWeber
  1. Log in to your AWeber control panel.
  2. Select the list you added on E-Junkie from the Current List drop down box.
  3. Once it is selected, move your mouse over the My Lists tab on the menu bar and select Email Parser.
  4. Towards the bottom of the Shopping Carts list, you'll see E-junkie with a check box beside it. Check it, and you're set!
It really is as simple as that. We've used this exact series of steps many, many times for our own products and 90% of our buyers opt-in to our list. It gets great response rates and AWeber's built-in stats are invaluable.

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I have to say I am new to paypal as well but it is really easy to setup and a great secure payment feature for the web. I have been a member for a month and have used it over 10 times. They really make it easy to setup if you follow their on screen advice

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If not, hopefully they'll be of use to someone else. There seem to be two major stumbling blocks, both of them are very easy fixes, but the answers take some digging around on E-Junkie and AWeber's websites.[B]

Hope that helps!
It definitely is a useful set of tips. But it doesn't look easy by a long shot, would u be able to make a video and post it? im sure that would go down like brandy on a night out on the town. in short, it'd be even more helpful.

Thanks for the tips tho, this kind of stuff can drive me up the wall if I have to mess with it without guidance

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It definitely is a useful set of tips. But it doesn't look easy by a long shot, would u be able to make a video and post it? im sure that would go down like brandy on a night out on the town. in short, it'd be even more helpful.

Thanks for the tips tho, this kind of stuff can drive me up the wall if I have to mess with it without guidance

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Hey Kunle,
I agree that a video would be very helpful. When I get some free time in the next few days, I'll see what I can do about that. If I don't remember, would you mind PM'ing me to remind me?
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If I don't remember, would you mind PM'ing me to remind me?
Sure, it's a date...

thanks for being so gracious with your time too.

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Basically, I've put together a product to sell and I'd like to use Paypal as the payment method.

What do I need to do in order to have everything up and running? i.e - when payment is made product gets sent to the customer, etc etc.
By "etc. etc." can I assume that you also want secured download links, support for affiliates and commission payments, automatic opt-in of customers to an autoresponder list so you can do back-end promotions?

I guess a lot depends on where you expect to go with your business, and how quickly. What does "etc. etc." mean to you? What other features are you looking for?

Creating a Paypal "Buy Now" button is easy. Getting "everything up and running" depends on what "everything" means to you.

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By "etc. etc." can I assume that you also want secured download links, support for affiliates and commission payments, automatic opt-in of customers to an autoresponder list so you can do back-end promotions?

I guess a lot depends on where you expect to go with your business, and how quickly. What does "etc. etc." mean to you? What other features are you looking for?

Creating a Paypal "Buy Now" button is easy. Getting "everything up and running" depends on what "everything" means to you.
Hey Sid,

From the features you mentioned I would like secure download links and automatic opt-in of customers. I don't particularly want to run an affiliate program with these products.

I'll be creating my own products later down the track and then I'll look to integrate an affiliate program.

From what I've learned so far in this thread, using a combination of e-junkie incorporated with Aweber and Paypal is probably the best route to go.

Would you agree?
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I have another question about E-Junkie.

I just signed up for their 1 week trial.

In your profile settings you need to enter a name and an email address that will be visible to your buyers, however, what if you're selling a few different unrelated products and you have different pen names for each niche aswell as different email addresses?

I know I'm probably missing something but I would love some help!
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I have another question about E-Junkie.

I just signed up for their 1 week trial.

In your profile settings you need to enter a name and an email address that will be visible to your buyers, however, what if you're selling a few different unrelated products and you have different pen names for each niche aswell as different email addresses?

I know I'm probably missing something but I would love some help!
As far as I am aware, there is no way to have multiple identities in E-Junkie. To do that, you'd need to have multiple accounts. You might want to consider operating each identity under an assumed umbrella business name. Perhaps even make a generic info@umbrellabiz.com email address? I'm not sure if this is a reasonable solution for you or not. If you're using AWeber integration, changing the email address that a customer sees when you're emailing them is a breeze, so it wouldn't be too hard to have multiple identities in that respect.

Considering how inexpensive they are, multiple accounts might not be such a bad idea. You can link multiple PayPal payment emails to a single email address through PayPal pretty easily.

Hope that helps.

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Here are two posts on their support forums that cover this question as well:
http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1291
http://www.e-junkie.com/bb/topic/1232
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Thanks for the response.

I've just noticed that you can integrate Paypal with Aweber without E-Junkie.

I think I might just use a combination of Paypal/Aweber and get DLGuard when I can afford it.
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Very useful information. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I hadn't heard of e-junkie.

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Thanks for the response.

I've just noticed that you can integrate Paypal with Aweber without E-Junkie.

I think I might just use a combination of Paypal/Aweber and get DLGuard when I can afford it.
If you do decide to go this route and plan to digitally deliver products to your customers in the interim, do yourself a favor and make sure that you obscure the location of your individual product files from search engine spiders. If, for example, your product files are all archived ZIP files, then you'll want to put a robots.txt file in your sites directory containing the following information:
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User-agent: *
Disallow: /*.zip$
This file tells all search engine spiders, "Hey, don't index any files you might come across that end in .zip!" It will make it significantly more complicated for some of the more intrepid thieves out there to steal your work. However, I would advise getting some sort of file security or digital delivery service as soon as you are able.

Here is a detailed article by Google on robots.txt files.
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If you do decide to go this route and plan to digitally deliver products to your customers in the interim, do yourself a favor and make sure that you obscure the location of your individual product files from search engine spiders. If, for example, your product files are all archived ZIP files, then you'll want to put a robots.txt file in your sites directory containing the following information:
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User-agent: *
Disallow: /*.zip$
This file tells all search engine spiders, "Hey, don't index any files you might come across that end in .zip!" It will make it significantly more complicated for some of the more intrepid thieves out there to steal your work. However, I would advise getting some sort of file security or digital delivery service as soon as you are able.

Here is a detailed article by Google on robots.txt files.
Sounds good. I was just reading something about that, I'll definitely be making use of it.

Thanks for all your help, you've been great!


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Glad to help Pat, the HTML should be pretty easy - if you're unsure about it feel free to PM me!

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Hey Bill,

I did what you said and I changed the PayPal button image to the one I wanted and it worked great!

However, I'm wondering what I need to do if I just want to link directly to it also.

What I mean is, aswell as the button.. on the sales page there will be other links, something like, "Click Here To Try Risk Free" or something to that extent.

I'm not sure what I am supposed to link to because there isn't really a clear destination within the PayPal button HTML.

Does that make sense?

Thanks,

Pat.
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