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Does Google Control Organic Website Traffic?

by trade4861
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Lately I've been thinking that Google controls website traffic, or at least for new websites.*

Let me clarify what I mean by this. I'm starting to think that no matter how much incredibly great content you have, you will only get a predetermined amount of traffic from Google (Organic Traffic). Does anyone think, or does Google do this for new websites, or even for all websites?

Recently I have added about a hundred pages of original quality content and high end content. Some of this content was written by some very bright minds and by people with an extreme ability in writing skills.*

I added these 100 pages of content to one of my new websites (4 months old) and I am still getting only 300 visitors per day. The same amount of visitors I was receiving one month earlier, prior to adding the 100 pages? Every single day I get nearly the exact amount of organic traffic.

Either it has become extremely difficult to harvest visitors through writing alone, or Google predetermines how many visitors your going to receive.*

So the question is, does Google predetermine how much organic traffic you receive?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Ken Russell
    Are your keywords ranking? You could have 1000 pages of extremely high quality content but if your keywords aren't ranking on search engines you won't see results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Originally Posted by trade4861 View Post

    So the question is, does Google predetermine how much organic traffic you receive?
    No - of course not.

    Your conclusion is crazy.

    Nio said it - just having content is irrelevant if you haven't promoted it and got it focused so that each page gets traffic of its own.

    Each new page of content is an extra place a searcher can find based on their search term. If you haven't focused on any new terms then why would you get more traffic?

    If you did then you just haven't promoted the content enough for it to be getting found by people when they search.

    Adding 1000 pages of content in the slimming niche will likely get you different results to doing the same in the monkey juggling niche, so the level of competition in your niche will also make a difference.

    Amount of content is much less important than how that content is focused and promoted.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
    How much time has passed since you posted the 100 new articles? Do you think Google has already indexed them and ranked them for certain keywords? If not, then you are pretty much dealing with the same website - without the 100 articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author trade4861
    Well here is the thing, the pages I wrote get about 80 to 500 visitors a month per page. The content I outsourced were from college graduates that were top of their classes and certainly highly knowledgeable in their field. It's those pages from college graduates that don't rank well. My pages rank just fine. Just about every one of my pages are on the first page of Google search using three words or less.

    Its kind of hard to believe that a college graduate who spent 3 weeks researching work that they already had great knowledge in wouldn't rank well for their writings. I must say, their writings were very impressive... I thought they would have ranked better!

    Its either Google does predetermine website traffic (for new websites) or high quality content isn't king.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by trade4861 View Post

      Well here is the thing, the pages I wrote get about 80 to 500 visitors a month per page. The content I outsourced were from college graduates that were top of their classes and certainly highly knowledgeable in their field. It's those pages from college graduates that don't rank well. My pages rank just fine. Just about every one of my pages are on the first page of Google search using three words or less.

      Its kind of hard to believe that a college graduate who spent 3 weeks researching work that they already had great knowledge in wouldn't rank well for their writings. I must say, their writings were very impressive... I thought they would have ranked better!

      Its either Google does predetermine website traffic (for new websites) or high quality content isn't king.
      I think most college writers without experience will fail miserably in our businesses.
      I was just having this discussion earlier this weekend how unless its an ivy college, most formal ed will fail when it comes to the internet.
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      • Profile picture of the author trade4861
        Maybe your right, but isn't this what Google preaches... write great content! Very possible the writings will be inspiring enough for people to link to, but its hard to get people to link to your pages if few people ever see the writings. Personally, I would much rather find college graduate writings in search results that have been researched and referenced to substantiate the research.

        Guess my expectations were to high on this one. Kinda thought that high quality writings might out rank low quality writings that stood at the top of Google search results because of backlinks alone.
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        • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
          Originally Posted by trade4861 View Post

          Guess my expectations were to high on this one. Kinda thought that high quality writings might out rank low quality writings that stood at the top of Google search results because of backlinks alone.
          No.

          Don't know why you thought that but Google does not rank content based on how well written it is.

          You should be writing for your visitors not for Google.

          Take a lesson from the politicians - if they're trying to speak to the unwashed and uneducated then they dumb down their content and if they're trying to appeal to foreign investors or politicians then they have sound bites and intelligent retoric written for them.

          Just because something is written by someone less able to write in a technically good way - doesn't mean the content is of less quality.

          You see many people here with English as their 2nd or 3rd language - just because you can barely read what they write doesn't mean they're not saying something intelligent and important.

          How do you think Google can tell the difference between an inexperienced college grad writing well about something they have no understanding of, and a 40 year successful entrepreneur with bad grammar and a mind of a genius?
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Some of my sites get exactly the same amount of search traffic every day. I'm sure Google controls traffic to your site. However, they would cap & throttle it, like they do with AdWords ad spends (so all your ads don't get shown in a single hour).
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesColin
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    It has become clear to me that google is capping the traffic it sends, that's for sure.
    Why? Because I don't see any other explanation for some of my sites with new members everyday, posting new content everyday and the traffic sent from google staying within a few hundreds daily the same for months on end.
    That it should go down or up, ok, but the nearly exact same amount daily for weeks and months despite new fresh content being added by a small army of writers, that means what? Coincidence? I don't think so since the same happens on several of my membership sites despite content growing.

    But then if you don't believe it, then it's the same for me, I don't mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by JamesColin View Post

      It has become clear to me that google is capping the traffic it sends, that's for sure.
      No - that's you being superstitious and guessing at what is happening.

      If I fart and then a bird flies by - it doesn't mean I control the birds with my farts.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesColin
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    Yes, that's what I was saying, if you don't believe it is happening, it's fine. I have public web trackers so the evidence is not hidden in G analytics stats.
    It's particularly easy to see it happening when you get a penalty of some sort, meaning you go from the usual 5,000 UV / day to 3,000 UV / day from one day to the next, and then it stays at 3,000 UV / day for weeks, months. Despite new content being added everyday.
    But as I said, fine if you believe there's no mechanism in place for that, it's just coincidence for months on end. Fascinating :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by JamesColin View Post

      Yes, that's what I was saying, if you don't believe it is happening, it's fine. I have public web trackers so the evidence is not hidden in G analytics stats.
      It's particularly easy to see it happening when you get a penalty of some sort, meaning you go from the usual 5,000 UV / day to 3,000 UV / day from one day to the next, and then it stays at 3,000 UV / day for weeks, months. Despite new content being added everyday.
      But as I said, fine if you believe there's no mechanism in place for that, it's just coincidence for months on end. Fascinating :-)
      What you just said is completely different.

      Obviously if you're under a penalty of some sort then all bets are off as to what you can expect from Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    I wrote 100 quality articles, printed them and stuck them to my wall ... why isn't Google sending traffic to them?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    One thing to consider...A couple of years ago Google added the level of vocabulary to its algo. Basically, Google tries to match SERPs to the level of the search terms.

    If someone is searching for "how to pick the lint from my belly button", Google will attempt to find results that use a low level of vocabulary.

    On the other hand, if a user inputs a string of keywords only someone with a PHD in brain surgery would understand, Google will try to find documents with a higher degree of understanding and vocabulary.

    In other words, make sure your college students aren't too smart for your own good. Their choice of vocabulary words should match the topics they are writing about.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Of course google doesn't cap the amount of traffic. I added a post of my anti-scam blog a couple of weeks ago and it's traffic has gone through the roof. It contains a specific keyword regarding a specific scam that is prevalent right now.

    Have you asked yourself what are the keywords you are targeting in each of those new articles, what the competition is and how many people are actually searching for those keywords?

    If they duplicate the keywords that you were already using they may simply be ranking lower than your existing content and wouldn't bring more visitors.

    Having said that, I often say to people "just write" and don't worry too much about keywords. You can never know what real people will actually search for. Almost any article should catch some of those ultra long tail, only one person ever searches for them, keywords.
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