Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business?

Mormuno01 · 03-25-2009, 03:22 PM

Hello All. I have a question of discussion for everyone; Do you think it is possible that in the near future we will see a $50 million dollar Info-Product Man? A man that makes Eben Pagan, Frank Kern, and John Reese look like Beggars? A Man that dominates major niches in dozens of markets?

I have run some numbers, and this is how the math would work out for a sample $50 Million Dollar business...

Annual Sales- $50,000,000
Product Price- $197
Total Sales- 253,808
Sales Letter Conversion Rate- 4%
AdWords Impressions- 317,260,000
Adwords Clicks-6,345,200
AdWords CTR- 2%
Average CPC- .20
Total Adwords Expense-$1,269,040

Why hasn't anyone done this? I am not saying one niche can get 300 million impressions in one year, but dozens of niches? Mathematically it is VERY possible....

I am 100% convinced that we have a Roger Bannister situation here.

Before Roger Bannister ran the mile in under 4 minutes (3 Minutes and 59 Seconds), people thought it was insane. They would let lions loose in Africa to force people to run 4 minute miles, and they couldn't do it. Scientists concluded that it was physiologically impossible. Your heart would burst. It just couldn't be done.

What made this event so significant is that once the four minute barrier was broken by Roger Bannister, within three years, by the end of 1957, 16 other runners also cracked the four minute mile.

The question for all Internet Marketers, Guru's Included is who will be our "Roger Bannister", and who will be the 16 or 1600 that follow.....

AfteraDream · 03-25-2009, 03:30 PM

I think one day it will happen. But product will probably cost way more. And at first someone needs to cross like 30 million dollar line. Since StomperNet had like 23mil, that is possible.

Mormuno01 · 03-25-2009, 03:32 PM

I would really like it if we got some input from Frank Kern, John Reese, and Jeff Walker here....Guys, what is holding "US" back?

Dayne Dylan · 03-25-2009, 03:33 PM

Anything is possible online...anything. Especially when you are dealing with the masses WORLDWIDE.

Mormuno01 · 03-25-2009, 03:35 PM

Adding another Stipulation....$50 Million Dollars in non-IM NICHES...Possible or psycho?

Jonathon Locke · 03-25-2009, 03:35 PM

Who's to say that it isn't already happening? People that are enjoying massive success rarely share their secrets with others - just because no one is advertising their success, doesn't mean that there aren't silent millionaires out there

.

All the best,
Jonathon Locke

JamesFrancisIM · 03-25-2009, 03:36 PM

Internet Marketing is all about being the best of the best. Everything you do, you should be wanting better, faster, stronger... Not only overcoming your competition, but also yourself.

If you thought "hey, I'm going to be that guy" when reading this thread, you're already on the right path

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Mormuno01 · 03-25-2009, 03:37 PM

Good point Jon Locke!

PS-Are you the Jon Locke from LOST? he he

Thats my fav show

Christopher R Everson · 03-25-2009, 03:42 PM

Because getting a 4% conversion rate from an adwords campaign direct to sales letter in a market that could support that level of traffic at that price would be downright miraculous in my opinion.

There are many marketers worth more than $50,000,000 from their online efforts, it's just not as simple and linear as opening up an adwords account and a clickbank account and saying "here look".

Frank Kern and other guys have already shown that it's possible to get into the multiple millions in sales from utilizing a relatively small sector of the industry.

You see it a lot when people start capping out on their target market. Rather than work twice as hard to squeeze out half as much, they'll start moving toward other markets that are simply bigger.

I know of one individual that started in your average make money, foreclosure, forex type markets, went to film a late night commercial at the studio, and before long, was connected with guys that hocked Cleaning products and Safe Scissors and junk like that.

Why would they go from selling a $197 product with thousands of bucks available in the back end system? Because rather than selling a $200 product to hundreds of thousands of people, it's easier to sell a $20 product to tens of millions of people.

There are people out there sitting on lists of several million, not knowing how to use them, when we have guys in here with a 5,000 list making a killing.

MicahF7 · 03-25-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mormuno01

Hello All. I have a question of discussion for everyone; Do you think it is possible that in the near future we will see a $50 million dollar Info-Product Man? A man that makes Eben Pagan, Frank Kern, and John Reese look like Beggars? A Man that dominates major niches in dozens of markets?

I have run some numbers, and this is how the math would work out for a sample $50 Million Dollar business...

Annual Sales- $50,000,000
Product Price- $197
Total Sales- 253,808
Sales Letter Conversion Rate- 4%
AdWords Impressions- 317,260,000
Adwords Clicks-6,345,200
AdWords CTR- 2%
Average CPC- .20
Total Adwords Expense-$1,269,040

Why hasn't anyone done this? I am not saying one niche can get 300 million impressions in one year, but dozens of niches? Mathematically it is VERY possible....

I am 100% convinced that we have a Roger Bannister situation here.

Before Roger Bannister ran the mile in under 4 minutes (3 Minutes and 59 Seconds), people thought it was insane. They would let lions loose in Africa to force people to run 4 minute miles, and they couldn't do it. Scientists concluded that it was physiologically impossible. Your heart would burst. It just couldn't be done.

What made this event so significant is that once the four minute barrier was broken by Roger Bannister, within three years, by the end of 1957, 16 other runners also cracked the four minute mile.

The question for all Internet Marketers, Guru's Included is who will be our "Roger Bannister", and who will be the 16 or 1600 that follow.....

I will.

If you believe you can or if you believe you cant you are right.

I totally believe that there are people doing that much as we speak.... They just are not telling everyone! The real money is in CPA people.... 50 millions a year is not hard.

Adaptive · 03-25-2009, 03:47 PM

Isn't Google already a $50m+ online information business?

Regards,
Allen

metaphor17 · 03-25-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan

Anything is possible online...anything. Especially when you are dealing with the masses WORLDWIDE.

Such a true statement, you couldn't possibly set up a campaign that targets that big of an audience so easily in the real world...

Steadyon · 03-25-2009, 03:59 PM

What's the highest Tony Robbins has grossed in a year?

Mormuno01 · 03-25-2009, 04:00 PM

My example was just a simple formula. I didn't even include Continuity, Back End, etc. My point was to show that $50 million is very possible. Can someone put together a full business formula, including sample conversion rates, continuity, backend, JV's, etc. I will work on one too

Mormuno01 · 03-25-2009, 04:02 PM

metaphor17, go to the Google Keyword tool and check how many searches are done every month for the term "Weight Loss", "Forex", "Make Money", "Photography", "Garden", "Dog Training", and "Dating". It is Very Possible to spend 1 Million+ in Adwords clicks every month.

Mormuno01 · 03-25-2009, 04:04 PM

What it comes down to is explanding your focus. If your sales letter converts at 4% from an ad-click, you can scale that puppy to the death.

Shannon Herod · 03-25-2009, 04:06 PM

Think Ron LeGrand and Tony Robins

Shannon

Maria Gudelis · 03-25-2009, 04:06 PM

The $50 Million Info - Empires already exist...I've seen it. One of my mentors

Most of the individuals behind it prefer to be the ones 'in the background' that you don't see.....

Check out Michael Masterson of Agora Publishing...

- he 's done it repeatedly...

Yes - it is a matter of the mind - 'what you can believe, you will achieve'

eholmlund · 03-25-2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria Gudelis

The $50 Million Info - Empires already exist...I've seen it. One of my mentors

Most of the individuals behind it prefer to be the ones 'in the background' that you don't see.....

Check out Michael Masterson of Agora Publishing...

- he 's done it repeatedly...

Yes - it is a matter of the mind - 'what you can believe, you will achieve'

Exactly what I was gonna say. Back in 2006 Rich Schefren talked about Agora, which was doing $270M at the time.

And a $50M business would not make Eben Pagan look like a beggar ;-) I would expect him to reach that mark.

Oracle_320th · 03-25-2009, 05:37 PM

If you operate as business you can reach hundreds of dollars even more from info product. Speaking about Rich Screfren, you might find his materials useful to reach your $50 millions mark

Strategic Profits Vault

Oracle_320th · 03-25-2009, 05:39 PM

If you operate as business you can reach hundreds of dollars even more from info product. Speaking about Rich Screfren, you might find his materials useful to reach your $50 millions mark

Strategic Profits Vault

John Chen · 03-26-2009, 05:26 AM

Major publishing companies are already doing this.

Agora's doing like $300M a year.

Kevin AKA Hubcap · 03-26-2009, 09:42 AM

There are companies already doing this.

For some reason there's a perception that the "celebrity" marketers are the ones that are earning the most money.

There are marketers who you've never heard of that are earning multiples of what the "well known" marketers make.

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03-25-2009, 03:22 PM	#1
Mormuno01 $20 Million Dollar Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? Hello All. I have a question of discussion for everyone; Do you think it is possible that in the near future we will see a $50 million dollar Info-Product Man? A man that makes Eben Pagan, Frank Kern, and John Reese look like Beggars? A Man that dominates major niches in dozens of markets? I have run some numbers, and this is how the math would work out for a sample $50 Million Dollar business... Annual Sales- $50,000,000 Product Price- $197 Total Sales- 253,808 Sales Letter Conversion Rate- 4% AdWords Impressions- 317,260,000 Adwords Clicks-6,345,200 AdWords CTR- 2% Average CPC- .20 Total Adwords Expense-$1,269,040 Why hasn't anyone done this? I am not saying one niche can get 300 million impressions in one year, but dozens of niches? Mathematically it is VERY possible.... I am 100% convinced that we have a Roger Bannister situation here. Before Roger Bannister ran the mile in under 4 minutes (3 Minutes and 59 Seconds), people thought it was insane. They would let lions loose in Africa to force people to run 4 minute miles, and they couldn't do it. Scientists concluded that it was physiologically impossible. Your heart would burst. It just couldn't be done. What made this event so significant is that once the four minute barrier was broken by Roger Bannister, within three years, by the end of 1957, 16 other runners also cracked the four minute mile. The question for all Internet Marketers, Guru's Included is who will be our "Roger Bannister", and who will be the 16 or 1600 that follow.....

03-25-2009, 03:30 PM	#2
AfteraDream Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 601 Blog Entries: 6 Thanks: 361 Thanked 62 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? I think one day it will happen. But product will probably cost way more. And at first someone needs to cross like 30 million dollar line. Since StomperNet had like 23mil, that is possible.

03-25-2009, 03:32 PM	#3
Mormuno01 $20 Million Dollar Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? I would really like it if we got some input from Frank Kern, John Reese, and Jeff Walker here....Guys, what is holding "US" back?

03-25-2009, 03:33 PM	#4
Dayne Dylan Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,573 Thanks: 132 Thanked 82 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? Anything is possible online...anything. Especially when you are dealing with the masses WORLDWIDE.

03-25-2009, 03:35 PM	#5
Mormuno01 $20 Million Dollar Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? Adding another Stipulation....$50 Million Dollars in non-IM NICHES...Possible or psycho?

03-25-2009, 03:35 PM	#6
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Mormuno01 $20 Million Dollar Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? Good point Jon Locke! PS-Are you the Jon Locke from LOST? he he Thats my fav show

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Christopher R Everson Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: , , USA. Posts: 1,798 Thanks: 20 Thanked 61 Times in 29 Posts Contact Info	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? Because getting a 4% conversion rate from an adwords campaign direct to sales letter in a market that could support that level of traffic at that price would be downright miraculous in my opinion. There are many marketers worth more than $50,000,000 from their online efforts, it's just not as simple and linear as opening up an adwords account and a clickbank account and saying "here look". Frank Kern and other guys have already shown that it's possible to get into the multiple millions in sales from utilizing a relatively small sector of the industry. You see it a lot when people start capping out on their target market. Rather than work twice as hard to squeeze out half as much, they'll start moving toward other markets that are simply bigger. I know of one individual that started in your average make money, foreclosure, forex type markets, went to film a late night commercial at the studio, and before long, was connected with guys that hocked Cleaning products and Safe Scissors and junk like that. Why would they go from selling a $197 product with thousands of bucks available in the back end system? Because rather than selling a $200 product to hundreds of thousands of people, it's easier to sell a $20 product to tens of millions of people. There are people out there sitting on lists of several million, not knowing how to use them, when we have guys in here with a 5,000 list making a killing.
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Mormuno01 $20 Million Dollar Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? My example was just a simple formula. I didn't even include Continuity, Back End, etc. My point was to show that $50 million is very possible. Can someone put together a full business formula, including sample conversion rates, continuity, backend, JV's, etc. I will work on one too

03-25-2009, 04:02 PM	#15
Mormuno01 $20 Million Dollar Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? metaphor17, go to the Google Keyword tool and check how many searches are done every month for the term "Weight Loss", "Forex", "Make Money", "Photography", "Garden", "Dog Training", and "Dating". It is Very Possible to spend 1 Million+ in Adwords clicks every month.

03-25-2009, 04:04 PM	#16
Mormuno01 $20 Million Dollar Man Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Contact Info	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? What it comes down to is explanding your focus. If your sales letter converts at 4% from an ad-click, you can scale that puppy to the death.

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Kevin AKA Hubcap Flyin' Low & Slow War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,189 Thanks: 56 Thanked 177 Times in 132 Posts	Re: Calling All Gurus: $50 Million Dollar Info-Product Business? There are companies already doing this. For some reason there's a perception that the "celebrity" marketers are the ones that are earning the most money. There are marketers who you've never heard of that are earning multiples of what the "well known" marketers make.