Is this a good open and click through rate?

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Hey my list is around the 800s and I was wondering if this is a good open and click through rate. I feel like its low but it might be just me.

Open rate: 4-6%
Click: 4-7%

Is this normal or too low?
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    It's awful IMO.

    Your traffic is not super targeted
    Your freebie is not good enough
    Your messages are not valuable
    Your brand doesn't stand out

    Just out of curiosity. Have you built your list through solo ads. that would make sense due to the abysmal opens and clicks.

    Not trying to be harsh, but the only way you will make any money from your list is if you have a very large one. I imagine you just built that list without much thought on how to market effectively. That's the problem these days. Too many people touting how to build lists and not enough attention given to building a responsive one.

    Now that you know your stats are bad, you can use those 800 people to test different marketing strategies on before you add more.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
      Originally Posted by retsced View Post

      It's awful IMO.

      Your traffic is not super targeted
      Your freebie is not good enough
      Your messages are not valuable
      Your brand doesn't stand out

      Just out of curiosity. Have you built your list through solo ads. that would make sense due to the abysmal opens and clicks.
      Yes, it was made through solo ads. Is that bad?
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  • Profile picture of the author XYZcontent
    It's pretty bad to be quite honest. If it was targetted traffic the rates would be much higher, which in return would get you a lot more sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
      Originally Posted by XYZcontent View Post

      It's pretty bad to be quite honest. If it was targetted traffic the rates would be much higher, which in return would get you a lot more sales.
      How do I get more targeted traffic?

      Is solo ad traffic not targeted?
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      • Profile picture of the author Matthieu Miser
        Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

        How do I get more targeted traffic?

        Is solo ad traffic not targeted?
        Look for a better solo ad provider, make sure that any solo ad provider you buy from has good reviews.

        You may also try youtube marketing, I haven't tried it for building my own list (yet) but I have heard its pretty effective.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve L
        Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

        How do I get more targeted traffic?

        Is solo ad traffic not targeted?
        there are A LOT of poor solo ad providers that send only free offers to freebie seekers. if you're offering something for free, they'll open your email, but it's very hard to get them to buy something in my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpwilson
    You can solve this problem easily if you use all the social media sites very effectively. It's pretty easy than you realize.
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  • Profile picture of the author apoorv.parijat
    That's a horrible open rate; my open rates have generally been around 25-30%.

    As someone else mentioned, it's because your list hasn't heard from you for a long time, they aren't very targeted or your subject isn't enticing enough. You need better, more targeted sources. Solo ads _can_ be good, depending on the list your e-mail goes out to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

    Open rate: 4-6%
    It's terribly low, I'm afraid.

    See if what's in the following thread is helpful to you, Edwin? (And put your hands firmly over your ears if anyone tries telling you that your subject-lines are no good: that isn't the main problem, here!).

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982
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  • Profile picture of the author mark healy
    thats no good,try changing your subject lines and give great content
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    • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
      Originally Posted by apoorv.parijat View Post

      That's a horrible open rate; my open rates have generally been around 25-30%.

      As someone else mentioned, it's because your list hasn't heard from you for a long time, they aren't very targeted or your subject isn't enticing enough. You need better, more targeted sources. Solo ads _can_ be good, depending on the list your e-mail goes out to.
      I email them everyday then every 2 days.

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      It's terribly low, I'm afraid.

      See if what's in the following thread is helpful to you, Edwin? (And put your hands firmly over your ears if anyone tries telling you that your subject-lines are no good: that isn't the main problem, here!).

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982
      Thanks for the link

      Originally Posted by mark healy View Post

      thats no good,try changing your subject lines and give great content
      I'll try changing my subject lines, thanks!

      Originally Posted by Nio93 View Post

      Your subject line really determines how many opens your gonna get. I have swipes that I've saved for years that still convert at 20-40% CTR.

      That's with a huge list too, around 30,000 subscribers. If I can hit those percentages, with those numbers, you definitely need to test a bit more and see what works best.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingMinded
    Those are some really low numbers. Industry averages for open rates are about 20%. Sounds like your list doesn't trust you yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
      Originally Posted by MarketingMinded View Post

      Those are some really low numbers. Industry averages for open rates are about 20%. Sounds like your list doesn't trust you yet.
      :/ How do I make them trust me more?

      I send them out good content
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

        :/ How do I make them trust me more?

        I send them out good content
        Contrary to what one might instinctively think, the significant and important parts of the answer to this question actually relate to things done before you start sending them email (and to whatever you send them immediately in exchange for their email address, which needs to be part of an overall continuity-process, as explained in the thread linked to in my post above).

        Originally Posted by MarketingMinded View Post

        Industry averages for open rates are about 20%.
        You can believe that, if you really want to.

        It's yet another quotation from the famous Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing.

        The reality is very different, among people making a living: to me, and to many of my friends here who make our livings through email marketing to targeted subscribers, the idea of spending so much of our time, marketing efforts and energy to build up a list (the core asset of our businesses!) of which 80% of the subscribers won't even open an email from us is, frankly, laughable.
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        • Profile picture of the author Technito
          This depends on many other factors as well. For one it's hard to build a trusted list if you're building it only through paid traffic (solo ads, ppc etc) and sending them directly to a squeeze page. Because most of these people only entered their email address "just" to see what was on the other side of your squeeze page. They didn't know they were being added to your list and will continue to receive emails from you about your product/opportunity.

          And if you're not using the "confirm opt-in" feature, this can also hurt open rates and result in a overall poor delivery to your subscribers inbox. Your list may grow slower by using confirm opt-in, but at least the subscribers that choose to confirm are willfully choosing to stay on your list to receive more information. Although they may be undecided, these are still considered good quality leads. And if they no longer want to receive any more info from you, they will most of the time just unsubscribe instead of hitting the spam button.

          That's another thing that's wrong with building your list from paid traffic and not using the confirm opt in feature, more people will hit the spam button than unsubscribe, and enough spam complaints can cause your messages to be spam filtered or even cause you to be blacklisted by an entire email provider.

          Most people who are getting 30-40+% opens rates consistently are usually people with blogs/content, or building their list through personal branding. And also requiring their subscribers to confirm their subscriptions.

          So for what you are doing to build your list, a 4-8% open rate is low but actually about average.
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