Where can i find a Warrior that can build me a sales funnel, squeeze, OTO , Optin gift

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Where can i get a warrior to give me a hand creating a sales funnel with a squeeze page (i have a few of my own to use) a OTO and the gift

They can be found building their own niches :p.

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Brains Gone Wild 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

They can be found building their own niches :p.

LMAO! So true...
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jimkirk1943 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

They can be found building their own niches :p.

Ahh come on Joseph you`ve got over 1800 `Thanks` give me something better than that lol
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- Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jimkirk1943
  
  Ahh come on Joseph you`ve got over 1800 `Thanks` give me something better than that lol
  
  1795 came from the good old days when you could still post funny pictures. Alright, can you be a bit more specific about what you're looking for? Do you have the content, the product lineup, all that in line already and just need it organized? Or is someone building a niche for you from scratch?
  
  If it's the latter see my above statement, it'll be a lot harder to find someone qualified to set up a successful funnel (they can spend that time building their own). Not saying it's impossible though, some people just like the setup process and want to do that for others.
  
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Brains Gone Wild

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Hi guys,

Where can i get a warrior to give me a hand creating a sales funnel with a squeeze page (i have a few of my own to use) a OTO and the gift

I would like it in the List building niche

Of course i`m paying

Thanks Jim

I'm new on here but isn't there a Warrior for hire area or forum? Best of luck!

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Ok the problem is i`m sick of not getting anything done
i want the funnel in the `list building niche` i have loads of saved squeeze pages that i want to try so thats not a problem what i need is someone to help me out finding a good `gift` and a decent OTO that matches the `gift`

I keep going over it and now i`ve got this dam mental block where as i just want to pay someone to help me out

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fin 12 years ago

NOBODY will deliver what you ask for cheap.

Surely anyone who can build a profitable sales funnel on command will charge plenty.

You will lose money on this venture.
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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Ok the problem is i`m sick of not getting anything done
i want the funnel in the `list building niche` i have loads of saved squeeze pages that i want to try so thats not a problem what i need is someone to help me out finding a good `gift` and a decent OTO that matches the `gift`

I keep going over it and now i`ve got this dam mental block where as i just want to pay someone to help me out

My personal recommendation would be to give out a gift that you create (or have created for you). Works well to establish authority (if you have it). You say you're looking for an OTO too, does that mean you have front end product(s) ready to promote?

Also, if you're in the listbuilding niche shouldn't this process be old hat to you? Not to be rude; but this is the type of funnel you'd sell to IMers (many of whom frequent this forum) and it doesn't do much for your authority to need to be asking these questions.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

My personal recommendation would be to give out a gift that you create (or have created for you). Works well to establish authority (if you have it). You say you're looking for an OTO too, does that mean you have front end product(s) ready to promote?

Also, if you're in the listbuilding niche shouldn't this process be old hat to you? Not to be rude; but this is the type of funnel you'd sell to IMers (many of whom frequent this forum) and it doesn't do much for your authority to need to be asking these questions.

I have done pretty well for myself in the SEO business but like everyone else i`m tired of SEO

So i am starting doing something i should of done years ago ..build a list .. I command no authority on this site ? i have no WSO and i have very little list building skills why should i have a problem asking these questions here and getting answers.

I am just being lazy really i should do it myself i know

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

i have no WSO and i have very little list building skills why should i have a problem asking these questions here and getting answers.

Because the listbuilding niche is about teaching others how to build lists. How are you going to sell/teach something that you don't know how to do yourself?

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Because the listbuilding niche is about teaching others how to build lists. How are you going to sell/teach something that you don't know how to do yourself?

Because i am a voracious reader and i learn fast i `understand` how list building works after being in IM for 5 years i am not have the skills of Frank Kern but i could already help the beginner which is where i`m starting

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Because i am a voracious reader and i learn fast i `understand` how list building works after being in IM for 5 years i am not have the skills of Frank Kern but i could already help the beginner which is where i`m starting

The same justification that newbies use when they launch their "Make Money Online" WSOs before actually making money online. It'd be fine if we were dealing with a purely academic/theoretical subject.

That's not the situation though

People who buy products in this market are trying to make money. If you haven't made money with email marketing, how do you know that what you are teaching holds any water at all? You could be taking money that people can't afford to give up while sending them further towards complete business failure.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

The same justification that newbies use when they launch their "Make Money Online" WSOs before actually making money online. It'd be fine if we were dealing with a purely academic/theoretical subject.

That's not the situation though

People who buy products in this market are trying to make money. If you haven't made money with email marketing, how do you know that what you are teaching holds any water at all? You could be taking money that people can't afford to give up while sending them further towards complete business failure.

Joseph lets be friends i cannot really be bothered to argue with you you`ve got 5000+ posts and could most likely eat me for breakfast so i`ll bow out now and say your correct which you are and ..have a nice day

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Joseph lets be friends i cannot really be bothered to argue with you you`ve got 5000+ posts and could most likely eat me for breakfast so i`ll bow out now and say your correct which you are and ..have a nice day

I'm not arguing with you. I'm trying to help you out and make sure that you don't go into a niche that you shouldn't. Switch the niche you're talking about to something that you are actually able and ready to teach and you can be off and running.

P.S. Post counts have nothing to do with debate skills

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

I'm not arguing with you. I'm trying to help you out and make sure that you don't go into a niche that you shouldn't. Switch the niche you're talking about to something that you are actually able and ready to teach and you can be off and running.

Yeah i know your helping Joseph i can see where your going with this i really can kinda like yeah start list building but focus on the SEO side instead of the actually list building side, But i dont understand everyone has to start somewhere so as i`ve said i would dearly like to market to the listbuilding niche so doesnt actually jumping in and throwing yourself in the deep end work ?

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Yeah i know your helping Joseph i can see where your going with this i really can kinda like yeah start list building but focus on the SEO side instead of the actually list building side, But i dont understand everyone has to start somewhere so as i`ve said i would dearly like to market to the listbuilding niche so doesnt actually jumping in and throwing yourself in the deep end work ?

OK Jim, I think that we might be talking about different things?

What I think you're trying to say: Instead of SEO, I want to make money by building a list.

What you're actually saying: I want to teach people how to build a list while I'm learning list building.

Am I correct in thinking this?

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

OK Jim, I think that we might be talking about different things?

What I think you're trying to say: Instead of SEO, I want to make money by building a list.

What you're actually saying: I want to teach people how to build a list while I'm learning list building.

Am I correct in thinking this?

Glup... I`m scared i`m digging self deeper in trouble with you here but here goes.. Yes Joseph thats what i`m saying

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Glup... I`m scared i`m digging self deeper in trouble with you here but here goes.. Yes Joseph thats what i`m saying

Now see, that's a horse of a different color! "List building" as you're thinking of it shouldn't be described as a "niche" but as a "traffic method". Niches are the problems that you are solving for your customers

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So do you know what your niche is yet?

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Now see, that's a horse of a different color! "List building" as you're thinking of it shouldn't be described as a "niche" but as a "traffic method". Niches are the problems that you are solving for your customers

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So do you know what your niche is yet?

No i think you was right before Joseph i actually do want to teach people how to build a list which is flawed because i dont actually have much expereince in building lists

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

No i think you was right before Joseph i actually do want to teach people how to build a list which is flawed because i dont actually have much expereince in building lists

OK, then I revert back to my original point. You shouldn't be teaching somebody something that you are learning yourself when their business/livelihood could depend on it.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

so doesnt actually jumping in and throwing yourself in the deep end work ?

It's pretty much stacking the deck against yourself when you have to learn the techniques do it and the subject-matter involved in it, all at the same time.

I'm taking your reference to "list-building niche" as meaning you're going to be advising other people on how to build lists (not a subject of which you have any experience)?

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It's pretty much stacking the deck against yourself when you have to learn the techniques do it and the subject-matter involved in it, all at the same time.

I'm taking your reference to "list-building niche" as meaning you're going to be advising other people on how to build lists (not a subject of which you have any experience)?

Yep i know your`ll laugh but i`ve been `studying` listbuilding for months and have 400 subs and 15 autoresponder messages loaded .. i have been trying i just dont get where i should start if i choose to market `listbuilding` if its not to just start and learn as you go i mean thats how i`ve always done everything else

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Yep i know your`ll laugh but i`ve been `studying` listbuilding for months and have 400 subs and 15 autoresponder messages loaded .. i have been trying i just dont get where i should start if i choose to market `listbuilding` if its not to just start and learn as you go i mean thats how i`ve always done everything else

If you don't mind, can you take a snippet from one of your autoresponder messages and posting it in this thread? I want to see what you're teaching/selling.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

If you don't mind, can you take a snippet from one of your autoresponder messages and posting it in this thread? I want to see what you're teaching/selling.

If you want give me a email address of yours and i`ll send you the lot, There a kinda relationship building collection that goes from the first few opening how are you, to a little guide on setting up a funnel now dont laugh at that

because the funnel is not set up with a OTO its just a simple squeeze page with offer there are affiliate links to aweber and a plr site but thats it
and afew following emails on getting organic traffic
then i send them a few messages with links to useful posts on other sites on the web i`ve enjoyed reading
then i send a few with a a couple of sales pitches for solo ads

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

If you want give me a email address of yours and i`ll send you the lot, There a kinda relationship building collection that goes from the first few opening how are you, to a little guide on setting up a funnel now dont laugh at that

because the funnel is not set up with a OTO its just a simple squeeze page with offer there are affiliate links to aweber and a plr site but thats it
and afew following emails on getting organic traffic
then i send them a few messages with links to useful posts on other sites on the web i`ve enjoyed reading
then i send a few with a a couple of sales pitches for solo ads

That's OK, I only asked because I was looking to figure out what niche you were in since I thought the question had confused you. As we settled, you are trying to sell "listbuilding" as your niche.

Here's a hypothetical that I hope will further illustrate why you shouldn't do this:

1. You need someone to help you build a sales funnel, right? Let's say that I raised my hand in the beginning of this thread and said "I'll do it for you!"

2. You agree, give me money, and I get to work. But the problem is, I'm just learning how to do this stuff myself (only in the hypothetical, play along). I don't know what actually works, so I'm just winging it.

3. You probably paid me good money to get this service, and you are happy when you first see the finished product.

4. When put to the test though, the funnel fails miserably. Naturally, you come to me to figure out the problem.

5. If I haven't completely disappeared with your money, I'll just give excuses or BS advice that won't help.

I bet you'd be pretty mad at the way things turned out, right? You'd scream and holler about getting your money back until kingdom comes and tell everyone who will listen how I scammed you.

That's exactly what you're about to try and do now, the only difference is the product/service that you are providing.

You're smarter than that. Don't do it.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

i have been trying i just dont get where i should start if i choose to market `listbuilding` if its not to just start and learn as you go

Well, I hear you there ... but there's a difference between doing listbuilding (say, for your own business based in niche-XYZ, because you know a lot about niche-XYZ and are going to build a list in it to promote XYZ-related products to your subscribers) and doing a list for the listbuilding niche itself, isn't there?

The difference being that in one case you need to portray yourself as an expert/authority in "subject-XYZ" which you genuinely know all about, because it's your hobby (say), and in the other case you need to portray yourself as an expert on the subject of listbuilding itself, about which some of your subscribers are going to know more than you. That isn't an easy one to pull off? :confused:

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

i mean thats how i`ve always done everything else

Ooh, well, far be it from me to talk you out of it ...

I offer you this fine thread, instead, then: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Ooh, well, far be it from me to talk you out of it ...

I offer you this fine thread, instead, then: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

I`ve read that post of yours about 20 times Alexa its save on my bookmarks too

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martin_boyd 12 years ago

Dont know if it exactly what you require, I think it just might be. Timing seems right...

List Buildling PLR Package | iMarketers Club

Let me know if it suits?

PS: Its not an affiliate link.
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kolawole365

Banned 12 years ago

May be I can be of good help to you if you dont mind. You can PM me.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

i have very little list building skills

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

I would like it in the List building niche

Do you not see the problem, here, Jim?

Isn't this like the people who go into internet marketing, with little knowledge and skills, and start off by setting up a blog teaching other people how to do internet marketing? That's the single commonest mistake that people make, and the single biggest reason for people failing.

Look, you know me well enough to know that I don't mean it rudely, at all, and I'm not trying to "have a go" at you, but how is what you suggest any different from that?

Wouldn't grape-growing or hydroponic gardening or cauliflower soup recipes or domestic desalination technology or whatever you do have skills/knowledge in be a far better niche for you?!

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Do you not see the problem, here, Jim?

Isn't this like the people who go into internet marketing, with little knowledge and skills, and start off by setting up a blog teaching other people how to do internet marketing? That's the single commonest mistake that people make, and the single biggest reason for people failing.

Look, you know me well enough to know that I don't mean it rudely, at all, and I'm not trying to "have a go" at you, but how is what you suggest any different from that?

Wouldn't grape-growing or hydroponic gardening or cauliflower soup recipes or domestic desalination technology or whatever you do have skills/knowledge in be a far better niche for you?!

Yeah you guys have defo pointed something out to me here i`m just looking to get started i just want out of the SEO area which is the only area i know at all well

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

i just want out of the SEO area which is the only area i know at all well

We can all drink to that, I think.

Sorry, Jim, my post above was made at the same time as yours just above it - I might not have posted at all, if I'd read your reply to Joseph first.

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Post counts have nothing to do with debate skills .

Damn, there'a always a catch ...
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- jimkirk1943 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  Sorry, Jim, my post above was made at the same time as yours just above it - I might not have posted at all, if I'd read your reply to Joseph first.
  
  your always welcome on my posts lady !!!
  
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AndrewStark

12 years ago

Why not apply listbuilding tactics to the niche that you know all about, which seems to be SEO.

Some of the people who make the most from listbuilding are applying the tactics to other niches. Think about using listbuilding to create your own brand and generate more repeat traffic back to your main site, or give you a rockstar status on social media.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AndrewStark

Why not apply listbuilding tactics to the niche that you know all about, which seems to be SEO.

Some of the people who make the most from listbuilding are applying the tactics to other niches. Think about using listbuilding to create your own brand and generate more repeat traffic back to your main site, or give you a rockstar status on social media.

Well this is what the guys here are beating me up about but the answer to that question is this .. I belive that everyone should be building a list and getting away from SEO so i want to help people build a list because i belive its the best thing they can do online and i know more about list building than the second best thing i thing people should do online which is to learn Media buys , I think everyone should get the hell away from SEO so how can i build a list in something i feel is bad news

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

I belive that everyone should be building a list and getting away from SEO

I agree.

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

so how can i build a list in something i feel is bad news

Yes, fair answer. But why are you looking only at niches inolved with internet marketing itself, here? What happened to tomato growing, and infertility, and poker software, and navigation skills, and learning guitar, and learning Japanese, and 398 other niches?

It's waaaaaaaaay easier to make a living in whichever of those 398 other niches you have some knowledge/expertise/enthusiasm. People spend money in almost all of those 398 other niches, you know?
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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Well this is what the guys here are beating me up about but the answer to that question is this .. I belive that everyone should be building a list and getting away from SEO so i want to help people build a list because i belive its the best thing they can do online and i know more about list building than the second best thing i thing people should do online which is to learn Media buys , I think everyone should get the hell away from SEO so how can i build a list in something i feel is bad news

But you have nothing to base this message around.

If you haven't succeeded with list building already, you're basing everything around a bunch of advice on a forum. Do you really want to take that risk? You'd be amazed how many people are only parroting what others say because it seems like the smart thing to do. Unless you have tested a method for yourself, you really shouldn't be talking about its validity.

That'd be like me walking into NASA and telling them how to design their next space shuttle because some guy said shape X would work well. Just because I heard it somewhere doesn't mean jack diddly squat without the experience to back it up.

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

That'd be like me walking into NASA and telling them how to design their next space shuttle ...

Between you and me, I heard they need all the help they can get ...
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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

But you have nothing to base this message around.

If you haven't succeeded with list building already, you're basing everything around a bunch of advice on a forum. Do you really want to take that risk? You'd be amazed how many people are only parroting what others say because it seems like the smart thing to do. Unless you have tested a method for yourself, you really shouldn't be talking about its validity.

That'd be like me walking into NASA and telling them how to design their next space shuttle because some guy said shape X would work well. Just because I heard it somewhere doesn't mean jack diddly squat without the experience to back it up.

Yeah i`m reading ya Joseph you are right but i only said i think list building is what folks online should be concentrating on i have been doing alot of homework and i have a gut feeling about it just like i belive that Media buys are something folks should be getting into but again this is only my gut feeling

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Morphius

12 years ago

Chill man, what do you care? He wants to lean about list building, let him do it. What is the big deal? If he succeed, that's great, if he doesn't...he learned something. What is the big deal?

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Morphius

Chill man, what do you care? He wants to lean about list building, let him do it. What is the big deal? If he succeed, that's great, if he doesn't...he learned something. What is the big deal?

Oh, no big deal outside of any newbies who mistakenly think that he is an expert and waste time/money that they probably don't have learning the wrong information.

You're right, no problem with that at all :rolleyes:. Think before you type please.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Oh, no big deal outside of any newbies who mistakenly think that he is an expert and waste time/money that they probably don't have learning the wrong information.

Thats alittle unfair

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Thats alittle unfair

Feel free to prove me wrong.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Feel free to prove me wrong.

Thank you i didn`t deserve that comment but anyway never mind

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Thank you i didn`t deserve that comment but anyway never mind

Translation: I can't.

Do what you gotta do man; but remember when this goes bad/fails miserably that more than one person warned you.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

Translation: I can't.

Do what you gotta do man; but remember when this goes bad/fails miserably that more than one person warned you.

Why the hell you would wish me to fail is beyond me and as you dont know me or have a crystal ball right now ! I can take and agree with the rest of your comments but that my friend is low Joseph

Translation: I can't... well it would be difficult wow your so smart

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jimkirk1943

Why the hell you would wish me to fail is beyond me and as you dont know me or have a crystal ball right now ! I can take and agree with the rest of your comments but that my friend is low Joseph

Translation: I can't... well it would be difficult wow your so smart

You've revealed more than enough in this thread (and browsing through your post history will surely reveal additional information) to allow me to make an educated guess. That, along with an internet landscape full of failed projects like this would point to my guess being a good one.

Again, feel free to prove me wrong. I'd love to see it happen.

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jimkirk1943

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson

You've revealed more than enough in this thread (and browsing through your post history will surely reveal additional information) to allow me to make an educated guess. That, along with an internet landscape full of failed projects like this would point to my guess being a good one.

Again, feel free to prove me wrong. I'd love to see it happen.

Wow look at Mr Robinson go !! Such a nice guy to have around and your right its been a stuggle thanks for reminding me big guy !!

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