Full time Kindle Income??

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Hey Warriors

In the past couple of days I've been receiving an unusually high volume of emails from various marketers singing the praises of Kindle publishing.

It seems like everyone is putting out a Kindle profit course this week. What gives?!

Are people really making full time incomes from just Kindle?

Is this something I should seriously consider adding to my portfolio?
#full #income #kindle #time
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    If you fully focus on this method, im sure you can make a full time income from it...

    Else you can take it as a knowledge and make some side income from it...
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Rok Solid View Post

    In the past couple of days I've been receiving an unusually high volume of emails from various marketers singing the praises of Kindle publishing.

    It seems like everyone is putting out a Kindle profit course this week. What gives?!
    It takes 60 to 90 days to actually get paid from Kindle publishing. That means the people who started working it in earnest this summer - after the great PLR shakedown - are now getting their cheques and seeing real results. And I know a LOT of people who said "my goal this summer is to get some stuff published on Kindle."

    A few people are doing a very good job of reverse-engineering WHY Kindle publishing is so lucrative, but they're generally sharing that in coaching groups and not selling a "make money on Kindle" WSO. The only such WSO I have heard really good things about is "Kindling," which runs $77 and can probably be found with a search of the WSO forum.

    (I don't actually have "Kindling" and can't speak directly to its quality or content. I have older Kindle training materials from twenty or more people, most notably Teresa Miller and Tanner Larsson. However, "Kindling" is highly recommended by several of my Facebook friends.)

    It's worth noting that some of my big-player buddies are very much against publishing anything sizeable on Kindle, because it's a bargain market - they suggest that anything which could be a physical book, should be a physical book. I don't have a particularly informed opinion on the matter, but I see their reasoning (Kindle books over $9.99 are generally frowned upon) and it appears sound.

    As far as a combined "system" goes, I would lean in the direction of publishing a series of 10-15 Kindle shorts at $2.99, then collecting them into a single published volume at $14.95... this seems like a good way to get the best of both worlds. Premium charge for early access, but a low charge... and once it's enough to make a printed book, you pack it up and make it one.

    But that's just me speculating. I don't self-publish anything at the moment. I'll be doing that Real Soon Now(TM), but content comes first and I'm behind schedule.
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  • Profile picture of the author godinu
    The people who do best with kindle are a)those who have estabilished names already and a backlog of books -- for instance, authors who have been around a while and are now publishing the work on kindle. This even goes for fields such as romance novels. I know one author who owned her own rights -- her company didn't see the value in the kindle, so she self-published and earns more than she did in her day job.

    b) people with a lot of kindle titles.

    there are other ways to make money, but it's a numbers game, really. Provide something people want to read, and find a way to repeat the process, and you've got a viable business.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpwilson
    Kindle is awesome. If you have complete idea about kindle than you would make lots of money. I think you should take it seriously. Because at the end of the day money would lough and play.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rok Solid
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      ..A few people are doing a very good job of reverse-engineering WHY Kindle publishing is so lucrative, but they're generally sharing that in coaching groups and not selling a "make money on Kindle" WSO. The only such WSO I have heard really good things about is "Kindling," which runs $77 and can probably be found with a search of the WSO forum.
      Thanks for the tip. I remember the buzz when Kindling was being relaunched recently. I'll see if I can find it on the WF again

      Originally Posted by godinu View Post

      The people who do best with kindle are a)those who have estabilished names already and a backlog of books -- for instance, authors who have been around a while and are now publishing the work on kindle. This even goes for fields such as romance novels. I know one author who owned her own rights -- her company didn't see the value in the kindle, so she self-published and earns more than she did in her day job.

      b) people with a lot of kindle titles.

      there are other ways to make money, but it's a numbers game, really. Provide something people want to read, and find a way to repeat the process, and you've got a viable business.
      This was what I suspected. Looks like I might need to either become a full fledged novelist or a great outsourcer

      Originally Posted by David Hooper View Post

      Like most of the stuff mentioned here, there are more people making money selling "picks and shovels" than actually doing the work themselves.
      Another one of my suspicions confirmed. I seem to be finding very few people making an actual living from Kindle sales but there's no shortage of folks selling Kindle WSOs.
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  • Profile picture of the author GoodFE
    Kindle is the future, well on my way to make $1000 in my first month and I expect much more to follow! It's free and easy to research yourself, not to mention it gets TONS of free traffic.

    Can't speak highly enough of KDP
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    • Profile picture of the author jbpatlanta
      I don't make a full time income yet from Kindle, but I am well on my way. I went against most of the advice you find about writing books for Kindle. It seems to have worked great for me.

      I remember when the Kindle boom began and everyone was hawking publish PLR on Kindle and get rich. Well, speaking from personal experience, using PLR on Kindle worked great, and still does, you just have to know how to use it.

      I agree with the other poster. These days it seems like most people are getting rich by selling Kindle courses. From what I have seen, most of these people do not have books that are selling well on Kindle. There was a course I found showing how people could rank books on Kindle for keywords. The problem is that very few people on Amazon search for books like they search for something on Kindle. Ranking high for google keywords in Amazon does very little for your bottom line, but it looks good as a WSO.

      In my experience, the people that are making money with Kindle are people that write good quality books. Write a good quality book, or outsource it, and people will buy it. You will have to do some promotion for it.

      Most people who are looking to make money off Kindle are not willing to put in the time required to actually make it. They are looking to get rich without ever doing any work.

      Short answer is "Yes, people are making a full time income off Kindle." You can too, but it will take work.

      Good Luck
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      • Profile picture of the author Rok Solid
        Originally Posted by jbpatlanta View Post

        I don't make a full time income yet from Kindle, but I am well on my way. I went against most of the advice you find about writing books for Kindle. It seems to have worked great for me.

        I remember when the Kindle boom began and everyone was hawking publish PLR on Kindle and get rich. Well, speaking from personal experience, using PLR on Kindle worked great, and still does, you just have to know how to use it.

        I agree with the other poster. These days it seems like most people are getting rich by selling Kindle courses. From what I have seen, most of these people do not have books that are selling well on Kindle. There was a course I found showing how people could rank books on Kindle for keywords. The problem is that very few people on Amazon search for books like they search for something on Kindle. Ranking high for google keywords in Amazon does very little for your bottom line, but it looks good as a WSO.

        In my experience, the people that are making money with Kindle are people that write good quality books. Write a good quality book, or outsource it, and people will buy it. You will have to do some promotion for it.

        Most people who are looking to make money off Kindle are not willing to put in the time required to actually make it. They are looking to get rich without ever doing any work.

        Short answer is "Yes, people are making a full time income off Kindle." You can too, but it will take work.

        Good Luck
        Thanks for your detailed reply. Your approach sounds like it makes a lot of sense. You know, treat customers like gold and always overdeliver

        I'd love to know the steps you've been taking. Would you mind sharing?

        Thanks
        Ricky
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        • Profile picture of the author GoodFE
          Originally Posted by Rok Solid View Post

          Thanks for your detailed reply. Your approach sounds like it makes a lot of sense. You know, treat customers like gold and always overdeliver

          I'd love to know the steps you've been taking. Would you mind sharing?

          Thanks
          Ricky
          Hey Ricky,

          Sorry to jump in on the conversation but just giving a little advice.

          Select what genre you want to enter, check out the 'Top 100' books in that genre and get an idea of what sells.

          Select ones that you think look good and take a note of the cover art, title, description etc.

          Now open up the book and check out the preview. You should be able to view 10% of the book.

          You don't need to see it all, you just need to see the table of contents and how similar books are formatted. This is not so that you can copy them, it's merely to give you an idea of how these books are laid out.

          This will give you a good idea of what sells and how well it sells. Now you can look to top these books with better cover art, better titles and by offering it for a better price.

          I recommend doing this yourself because it teaches you a valuable skill in the Kindle world, do this and you will be on your way to making a full time income with Kindle.

          (Bonus tip) Download the Kindle for PC app and check your genre regularly. People offer free promotions all the time and these normally go to the top of the list in the searches. Sure there are books that are always free but this way you will get ones that go on free promotion for a day or so. Now you can check out books and see what sells and get an idea of the competition!
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by jbpatlanta View Post

        In my experience, the people that are making money with Kindle are people that write good quality books.
        Quality is subjective.

        Some books have a purpose. If they accomplish that purpose, they will sell well. They do not have to be good at it.

        Look in the WSO section: if a WSO makes people happy and excited about possibilities, it will get good reviews. It doesn't have to be written well, packaged effectively, or even work. That's because WSOs are not for slick presentation and actual results. They are for the thrill of buying.

        Slick presentation and actual results will also get good reviews, of course, but "happy and excited" is a lot easier and cheaper to accomplish.

        There is at least one genre of writing where "happy and excited" is the entire point, and you don't need a meaningful plot or a coherent storyline or interesting characters at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisrizzo
    Anyone have a nice way to automatically monitor your niche on the Amazon Kindle marketplace? I was thinking of maybe using Google Alerts, but it would be nice to track price changes, and even changes in sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amy Harrop
    Kindle publishing can be quite lucrative, but it is certainly not an instant full-time income. It is a content platform, and like other content platforms, has it's pros and cons. Digital content delivery is not going away anytime soon, and many people are making Kindle publishing part of their business plan, just as many people are making an income solely publishing to the Kindle platform. There are a wide variety of ways to make Kindle publishing part of a business plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    I think that I would starve if I depended on my kindle income. That said, publishing on amazon is easy. KDP costs are zero. Still, few book will sell any. If you do not believe me... then jump in. Hard to establish yourself against a seas of authors most who are big names. They were big back in the paper era. Like I wish kindle did allow us to promote our work more.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuruGazette
    I reached full time income levels with Kindle in January 2012. I started publishing there infrequently at the end of 2008. I own a publishing company and 2012 was the year I decided to shift my focus from websites to books. It's paying off nicely

    Like any other business, how fast and far you go depends entirely upon the effort you put into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I'm a member of the Kindling group and it's definitely a good resource. But before shelling out $77 do yourself a favor and pick up John Locke's book on Amazon, How I Sold 1 Million eBooks in 5 Months. It's $2.99 and gives a really good overview of what it takes to get up and running.

    You'll find many of the guides saying fiction is where it's all happening. I believe Amazon sells far more fiction titles than nonfiction. But that's not to say the right nonfiction won't sell. It will. This Kindle revolution as people are calling it has been the boot in the butt I needed to get into writing fiction full time (except for the time spent marketing and promoting), something I've wanted to do for years.

    I published several short stories along with a couple of full length novels very recently. But like anything in business, product is one thing, marketing and promoting it is another. It's interesting though, I've promoted two titles and have gotten a pretty fair response. But I've had many more sales from one I just put up there with absolutely no promotion. One can never tell, I guess...
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    I love the kindle I have a few books out there and they sell ok I will soon enough get some more books out....

    Danny
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