Yet Another Site Flipping Questions

[yommys01]

I am back with my site flipping questions again. I have failed in my attempt to make some money from site flipping but I am not giving up just yet. I am determined to succeed in fact I have no other choice than to succeed.

80% of my auctions have ended without the decided results. In fact my last auction went for 45 dollars which isn't something I want if I must succeed online.

My questions are : Has any one on here sold a start up site with a price in the range of 80-200?

2. I want warriors to take a look at my previous listings and tell me what exactly I am not doing right or that I need to improve on. Here is my profile link on Site point : http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/users/300935/profile

3. Is it ethnical to rewrite a PLR article and call it unique content?

4. I want to try to clickbank ready method of flips but I need to know if it is right to rebrand or rewrite a PLR ebook and call it unique?

5. How much will it cost me to outsource a clickbank ready site. The ebook, sales letter and graphic designs.

[Ron Killian]

The link you provided, is a link to you profile and you have to be logged in to view it, so we can't see anything. I am guessing you were trying to post links to your auctions? Maybe post a few direct links?

If you completely re-wrote PLR, then it would be unique. I think it get's unethical when some one slaps on a new cover and calls it brand new.

I could be wrong, but if you outsource the production of the sites, your cutting most of, or all of your profits. One key with flipping it cutting your costs, usually by doing it all yourself.

[AliciaSpringer]

From what I've noticed your auctions mainly state "not unique" for the content and for some people that will be a turn-off. Your edited version of the Revolution Church Theme was pretty good for the Weight Loss blog you were selling, but the Forex one needed a better header. I think it's the fact that it was not unique content that devalued your listing.

The Catch The Cheating Lover blog that you created, you stated the content was unique, but the problem with that site was the header was too text based (not appealing) and the Google Ads on the "right column" is overlapping. That should be a 120x600 ad block, but it seems you have it set as 160x600. Little things like that, can hurt the appeal of your site.

One of the things you need to do when placing these "ready made blogs" for sale is to review your competition. Since so many on Sitepoint are doing it already, what separates your blog from the others? If I'm in the market for these types of sites, I'm going to select the one that is the best design, with a catchy domain name that is offering unique content.

If you decide to rewrite a PLR article, just make sure that it is indeed a full rewrite. People do it all the time, some will say it's not ethical, others will say it is. You can take an article understand it's basic concept, and have it rewritten in your own words. Since it is PLR, I don't see anything wrong with that.

For the Clickbank ready flip method, you really need to ensure that not only your mini-site is attractive but that your sales letter is appealing. The ebook itself needs to be professionally written as well. They are quite a few people selling Clickbank ready sites on Sitepoint, so there is competition. You will need to set yourself apart by ensuring your mini-site is "appealing".

To outsource a mini-site design, the prices can vary. There are offers here on Warrior Forum that are pretty good. I can recommend PlusMiniSites.com and MiniSite911.com as two good mini-site designers. If you decide to use PLR content, just make sure it is thoroughly re-written, and also add more content to it as well to separate it from the original version.

[steve m]

I keep telling you Yommi UNIQUE UNIQUE UNIQUE! Unique sales, you are always offering PLR stuff. Out source some articles 100% Unique no plr stuff and try that.... Also I have noticed the market place is not really going for blogs at the moment.

The hot selling sites at the moment at UNIQUE clickbank ready Minisites.. You only have to have a look at the market place at SP to relise this mate. I have told you before to whip up a product and I'll help with a mini site with you but you never have.

Hope you sell one soon but study the market mate yeah.

Steve

PS AND GET ONLINE.......! LOL

[yommys01]

@ Ron sorry for mistake in the link, here is the right link http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/users/300935/profile

Thanks to everyone to answered. I would still like to know if it is possible to rewrite and rebrand an ebook and call it unique.

Steve, I hve been trying to catch you on the messenger but you are never online.

[SirKhan]

I would advise you to write your own eBook that would skyrocket the price because of the uniqueness. One 60-70 page ebook goes around $450 these days. Add the website you're making to it, and you have a good price!

[EndGame]

I think you could spend hundreds of dollars making a clickbank ready site, and if you're not making money or struggling, it may not be the best thing to do if you ar eoutsourcing most of the work.

If siteflipping is a struggle for yo, have you considered doing something else like affiliate marketing etc? Or maybe just driving traffic to one or two of the sites you are creating?

[Desmond Ong]

Hey Yommy,

I am one of those dudes who sold start-ups blogs for around $80 to $200 if you are still wondering. That's not the point though.

I have seen some of your site flips, and here are my comments:

1) Your Listing Page is Filled with Words - Summarize your salespage please. Prospective buyers don't like reading a 1,000 words essay on your listing.

2) Not Unique - I've only seen some of your listings and I noticed all of them are not unique. Buyers love unique designs and unique contents.

3) It's the boring CHURCH again - I love Revolution Church, and I have nothing against that theme. But I think it is overused and you are also using the old GNU version instead of the paid version.

4) Blog Flipping Getting Competitive - It is true that blog flipping is getting more competitive. If you do not know how to wrestle and overthrow your competitions, you will not make money from blog flipping.

5) Establish a Credibility - This is very difficult and only a couple of site flippers managed to establish a stable credibility. One of the reasons Kate Anderson (if you know her) is so successful on SitePoint is because of her credibility. Once you have a strong credibility, you will realize your sites would sell much easier.

Also, I realized that you are considering rewriting articles and eBooks. Articles are cheap, so I won't go into that. eBooks are expensive though.

Here's what I do to get a new, unique eBook. For example, let's say I need an eBook on fishing. I simply gather 3 PLR eBooks on bass fishing, fly fishing and fishing lures and then send them to my eBook writers to compile as a BRAND NEW eBook.

Hope this helps.

UPDATE : I recently made this video here. It's on key points on selling blogs. Hope it helps.

www.viddler.com/explore/desmond28/videos/1/

[Mark .W. James]

three years ago.. any site with 5 crappy pages would sell for $200 but everything has changed since the arrival of wordpress...
the only thing that sells now is traffic!.. make sites and grow them.. get some natural traffic on them and they will sell good....

[yommys01]

@ Desmond, I have tried to flip some unique content sites but unfortunately non of them were sold but all but one of my PLR article blogs were sold.

The first one was for 75 dollars the second for 199 dollars and some private orders for 125 and 127 dollars.

[Desmond Ong]

Originally Posted by yommys01

@ Desmond, I have tried to flip some unique content sites but unfortunately non of them were sold but all but one of my PLR article blogs were sold.

The first one was for 75 dollars the second for 199 dollars and some private orders for 125 and 127 dollars.

Yommy, I don't want to give you unnecessary advice, but I think that PLR site that you sold be either a lucky flip or you sold it when something about your site was popular.

Honestly, people rather pay $80 for blogs with unique contents than paying $60 for a PLR site. Get what i mean?

[yommys01]

Thanks for the advise Desmond.

I am going to try to get into the established site flip and see if I will get some luck but I have a question:

Is it possible to sell a site with some traffic and earned for 1k after promoting for 1 month?

[Desmond Ong]

Originally Posted by yommys01

Thanks for the advise Desmond.

I am going to try to get into the established site flip and see if I will get some luck but I have a question:

Is it possible to sell a site with some traffic and earned for 1k after promoting for 1 month?

People always have the perception that more money means better type of flip. In fact, the truth is that 70% of the sites that I have sold are all start-ups.

And to answer your question, of course it is possible. I recently sold off a product site for $2k which only took me about 2 days to complete.

[yommys01]

A Product site for 2k in 2 days? I don't understand you. Care to explain what you mean? I am sure others will find it useful too

[Nevada Gal]

Hi Yommy,

I just flipped an established site for $1299 a couple of weeks ago - so don't give up!

I would suggest if you have an extra $27 maybe get Desmonds eBook.

Also, consider outsourcing your graphics - you can find great deals by browsing Craigslist in other countries - like the Phillipines etc.

Just keep at it and don't give up...

A fellow site flipper wishing you success...

[yommys01]

Nevada Gal Thanks for advise. I am not giving up on site flipping and internet marketing as a whole. I know I will succeed, it is just a matter of time.

How long did you promote the established site for? And can you pm me the auction link ? Hope that is not something too personal.

[Desmond Ong]

Originally Posted by yommys01

A Product site for 2k in 2 days? I don't understand you. Care to explain what you mean? I am sure others will find it useful too

I made that site in about 2 days, spent 8 days marketing it. And then wait for it to age to a month old and then flipped it for $1,999.