Where to sell a squidoo lens/How Much is it Worth?

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by zspuckl

So I have this squidoo lens:
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-It gets over 200 vists a day
-Over 30% CTR Daily
-Makes Amazon Sales
-Top 2700 Lenses (moving around cause of halloween lenses right right)
-Has Made over $150 on CB
-Ranks #1 in google for main KW

How much do you think it is worth? I want to sell it and use the money to start a real IM biz?

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Start a "real" IM business? Sorry, but why are you selling the very thing that you want? What you're trying to sell is a "real" IM business.

...if you're making money off this lens (as you claim), why not up it and make more? Then create more pages and earn off those, too.

Don't know what you think a "real" IM business is, but there's no standard definition and frankly, as long as you're making money, a person could build that into quite a large enterprise.

Lastly, if you're determined to sell your lens -- AND ALL YOUR STATS ARE LEGIT -- I'm sure you wouldn't get enough to start a "real" IM business. The page is worth $100 tops. The buyer has to worry, again, about your claims (if they are real) and second, they have to worry about buying something that they really can't/don't own. The page could be nuked anytime and the new buyer would be left holding the bag.

I'd hang on to it and milk it for as long as you could.

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zspuckl

12 years ago

Originally Posted by GMD

Start a "real" IM business? Sorry, but why are you selling the very thing that you want? What you're trying to sell is a "real" IM business.

...if you're making money off this lens (as you claim), why not up it and make more? Then create more pages and earn off those, too.

Don't know what you think a "real" IM business is, but there's no standard definition and frankly, as long as you're making money, a person could build that into quite a large enterprise.

Lastly, if you're determined to sell your lens -- AND ALL YOUR STATS ARE LEGIT -- I'm sure you wouldn't get enough to start a "real" IM business. The page is worth $100 tops. The buyer has to worry, again, about your claims (if they are real) and second, they have to worry about buying something that they really can't/don't own. The page could be nuked anytime and the new buyer would be left holding the bag.

I'd hang on to it and milk it for as long as you could.

The thing is, I like Squidoo, don't get me wrong, but I am done with the niche I had there, and I want my own webiste, I don't like that I have to follow strict rusles for the payout, some like it, I have happy to have made money and learned a lot from squidoo, but I am moving on to personal sites, and a good chunck of change could pay for hosting, content, and more!

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by GMD

Start a "real" IM business?

Yes indeed ... "start a real IM business" is quite right. Squidoo is not a real IM business. You don't own or control it. It's not your own property.

Originally Posted by GMD

Sorry, but why are you selling the very thing that you want?

He isn't. He's wisely asking about selling something that isn't a real IM business in order to invest for the longer-term in something that is.

Originally Posted by GMD

What you're trying to sell is a "real" IM business.

No; it isn't. It's "a wing and a prayer", by comparison with a real IM business. (And that's also why lenses are so difficult to sell, and typically worth so disappointingly little, because the market understands so clearly that they're not "real businesses").

All these threads can help you to understand why, in great detail, but (as the saying goes) "only if you're willing to read them".

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...aste-time.html
Anyone make money on Squidoo?
Anyone Making above $ 100 Per Month with Squidoo ?
Affiliate Market in Squidoo?
Too Much Advertising on Squidoo??
Is Squidoo still okay to post article to?
How to subtly advertise on Squidoo and Hubpages?
How do I Use Squidoo Effectively?
Advice on Squidoo
What's the value of a Squidoo Lens?
Using Hubpages, Squidoo, and Tumblr to generate backlinks
A question about squidoo..

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zspuckl

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes indeed ... "start a real IM business" is quite right. Squidoo is not a real IM business. You don't own or control it. It's not your own property.

He isn't. He's wisely asking about selling something that isn't a real IM business in order to invest for the longer-term in something that is.

No; it isn't. It's "a wing and a prayer", by comparison with a real IM business. (And that's also why lenses are so difficult to sell, and typically worth so disappointingly little, because "the market" understands so clearly that they're not "real businesses").

All these threads can help you to understand why, in great detail, but (as the saying goes) "only if you're willing to read them".

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...aste-time.html
Anyone make money on Squidoo?
Anyone Making above $ 100 Per Month with Squidoo ?
Affiliate Market in Squidoo?
Too Much Advertising on Squidoo??
Is Squidoo still okay to post article to?
How to subtly advertise on Squidoo and Hubpages?
How do I Use Squidoo Effectively?
Advice on Squidoo
What's the value of a Squidoo Lens?
Using Hubpages, Squidoo, and Tumblr to generate backlinks
A question about squidoo..

Thanks Alexa, so advice on where to sell loll

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PhillyGalJen

12 years ago

I have seen lensmasters create a lens about the lenses that they are trying to sell. I know some that sell lenses that they create on a regular basis.

As for the amount of the lens, that is going to depend on what you can get someone to pay.

You can do a search on squidoo for Lenses for Sale. I just did this and pulled up many examples of what I am talking about.

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zspuckl

12 years ago

Originally Posted by PhillyGalJen

I have seen lensmasters create a lens about the lenses that they are trying to sell. I know some that sell lenses that they create on a regular basis.

As for the amount of the lens, that is going to depend on what you can get someone to pay.

You can do a search on squidoo for Lenses for Sale. I just did this and pulled up many examples of what I am talking about.

I had considered that, however if i do that i have to try and my my lens for sale page rank...

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by GMD

Own it or not, if I'm making money from something I don't give a flying *uck who owns it or not. Neither should the OP.

It's about whether his potential customers mind. And they do. Because unlike you, apparently, they're aware that Squidoo can (and does!) change the rules, and interpret them both idiosyncratically and inconsistently. Which is why so many people here have bought lenses that have subsequently turned out not to be able to maintain their income.

Originally Posted by zspuckl

Thanks Alexa, so advice on where to sell loll

There are plenty of people here who know far more about that than I do (later posts will help you more than mine, in other words!). But you might look at these, while you wait for them to post ...

Buy and Sell Squidoo Lenses at Auction with Sell My Lens
Sell Your Lens - We Buy Your Squidoo Lens
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oo-lenses.html
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oo-lenses.html
How to sell a Squidoo lens and why would you sell it

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GMD

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It's about whether his potential customers mind. And they do. Because unlike you, apparently, they're aware that Squidoo can (and does!) change the rules, and interpret them both idiosyncratically and inconsistently. Which is why so many people here have bought lenses that have subsequently turned out not to be able to maintain their income.
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It's NOT about whether "his potential customers" mind.

Why? Well I've already stated in my original post he wouldn't get much for it because customers would be concerned about buying the lens because they wouldn't actually own it. So the OP wouldn't have potential customers because he shouldn't sell it.

In other words, you're covering ground that I already wrote in my original response. Glad we agree.

Again, the OP is making money with the lens. The OP should keep the lens and NOT attempt to sell it for the peanuts that it would bring (if it even sold).

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by GMD

Glad we agree.

Oh, we agree about plenty. We always did. Even on the occasional times that you've apparently felt like an argument.

In this instance, I think the only thing you really disagree with is my contention that the reason Squidoo lenses tend to be worth disappointingly tiny amounts of money in a sale is that everyone knows they're not "real" IM businesses, and that ultimately you don't control them or own their real-estate. But you disagree with almost everyone about that, not just with me.

My guess, I'm sorry to say, is that the OP's lens will turn out to be worth so little that it isn't worth selling it. But I still applaud the principle of his wanting to sell off something that isn't - by any standards - a "real" IM business and concentrate instead on something that is. You may well be right that it isn't such a viable proposition for him actually to manage productively to do that, though: I wouldn't be surprised at all.

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GMD

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Oh, we agree about plenty. We always did. Even on the occasional times that you've apparently felt like an argument.

In this instance, I think the only thing you really disagree with is my contention that the reason Squidoo lenses tend to be worth disappointingly tiny amounts of money in a sale is that everyone knows they're not "real" IM businesses, and that ultimately you don't control them or own their real-estate. But you disagree with almost everyone about that, not just with me.

My guess, I'm sorry to say, is that the OP's lens will turn out to be worth so little that it isn't worth selling it. But I still applaud the principle of his wanting to sell off something that isn't - by any standards - a "real" IM business and concentrate instead on something that is. You may well be right that it isn't such a viable proposition for him actually to manage productively to do that, though: I wouldn't be surprised at all.

Let's just bring this full circle and communicate the following:

The people who are defining what a "real" IM business is or isn't aren't making any money online.

The ONLY thing that matters is,

1. Does the activity generate revenue?

2. Can the activity be replicated and exponentially grown to generate more revenue?

3. Can the revenue be deposited into a bank account one controls?

If yes, it's a business. Period. Ownership of the asset is not relevant. Control of the asset is not relevant. Relevance is defined in terms of the ability to manipulate that asset to generate cold, hard, sweaty, stinky, wet, greasy, cash!

Internet marketing, above all, is about creativity. It's about taking the limited pieces of the puzzle and putting them together different ways which result in revenue generation.

And yes, that includes this Squiddo lens nonsense. It's a piece of the puzzle and it can fit into anybody's income stream if it's placed properly.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by GMD

Ownership of the asset is not relevant.

It is if you want to sell it.

Its longevity, safety, security and continuity of income are also relevant to some of us.

I'm building up a real, asset-based business, which I own and control and can sell. That has two advantages. The first, which you describe above as the "ONLY" one, is the income it pays into the bank for me (we agree about that part, clearly). The second is the appreciating underlying value and marketability of the assets I own and control. That's just part what a "business" is.

That important aspect of "what a business is" isn't in any way devalued by your purported opinion that people who are defining what a "real" IM business is or isn't "aren't making any money online".

I can't express it any more simply than that, but I respect your right to disagree with it, if you really want to. I think that in a business forum, you'll be in a very small minority indeed, though, if you do.

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GMD

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It is if you want to sell it.

Its longevity, safety, security and continuity of income are also relevant to some of us.

I'm building up a real, asset-based business, which I own and control and can sell. That has two advantages. The first, which you describe above as the "ONLY" one, is the income it pays into the bank for me (we agree about that part, clearly). The second is the appreciating underlying value and marketability of the assets I own and control. That's just part what a "business" is.

That important aspect of "what a business is" isn't in any way devalued by your purported opinion that people who are defining what a "real" IM business is or isn't "aren't making any money online".

I can't express it any more simply than that, but I respect your right to disagree with it, if you really want to. I think that in a business forum, you'll be in a very small minority indeed, though, if you do.

The only problem is, in the OP's case, he DOESN'T have to "own" it to sell it. Squidoo's Terms of Service actually allows the private sale (or "transference of control") of a lens.

The whole discussion is in context of this thread's topic.

"I'm building up a real, asset-based business, which I own and control and can sell."

Oh really? And what happens if, one day, the internet "shuts off"? Where are you then? In the online world, nothing is "real".

What happens since you're so dependent upon Clickbank for revenue? What happens if that site goes bust? Right.

What happens when any number of the sites that you spray your articles on goes bust? What happens then?

What happens to the bloke selling three WSO's per week and is cut off (the majority here consider selling WSO's and how to make them a business)?

In our line of work, nothing's really "real" -- we're all living on borrowed time to a certain degree. Ask all the folks who made a fortune with Adsense yesterday and are, today, making nothing.

If you're really "building up a real, asset-based business, which I own and control and can sell" then buy a McDonald's because in only limited circumstances there's hardly any "physical" presence in this line of business (there are SEVERAL exceptions to this, of course).

Finally,

As for being in the "minority" you write that as if it's a bad thing.

I'll gladly be in the minority because it's the minority that's usually correct.

Let's look at the "majority":

The majority aren't making any money.

The majority gave the founder of FedEx a failing grade for his university thesis regarding the proposal to launch that business. FedEx is doing pretty well today, huh?

In my country, a time ago, the "majority" thought segregation was a good idea.

Apologies, but again, sustainable revenue is the measure -- regardless of how that income is generated.

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Thanks for your emphasis on "sustainable" at the end of your post. Always nice to see someone making part of my point for me. I think you probably know as well as I do that a site on Hostgator is more sustainable than one on Squidoo, for all the reasons explained by so many people, in so much detail, in all those threads linked to above. And of course that's why it's easier to sell, too - it's just a more valuable asset, because you control it and aren't subject to the vaguaries and under the control of a third party that's equivalent to Squidoo in any meaningful or commercially significant way - it's a totally different and altogether more secure situation - whether you agree or disagree.

Originally Posted by GMD

The whole discussion is in context of this thread's topic.

Yes, I appreciate that. And it's directly relevant to the OP, too, as can be seen from his reference to "real" businesses. Otherwise I'd have stopped discussing it with you several posts ago.

Originally Posted by GMD

In our line of work, nothing's really "real"

It's relative, I guess. My websites are marketable assets a whole lot more than a Squidoo lens would be. I know you it, you know it, and everybody reading the thread knows it.

You see the bit above, where I said:
I'm building up a real, asset-based business, which I own and control and can sell. That has two advantages. The first, which you describe above as the "ONLY" one, is the income it pays into the bank for me (we agree about that part, clearly). The second is the appreciating underlying value and marketability of the assets I own and control. That's just part of what a "business" is.

I can't add to that part, and clearly you can't sensibly dispute it, either. It's simply factual - it's just "Business 101". So I'll just thank you for the pleasure of your company and suggest that we agree to disagree about it.
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- GMD Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  I can't add to that part, and clearly you can't sensibly dispute it, either. It's simply factual - it's just "Business 101".
  
  Only problem is, I did sensibly dispute it. That's "Business 201".
  
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GMD

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes indeed ... "start a real IM business" is quite right. Squidoo is not a real IM business. You don't own or control it. It's not your own property.

He isn't. He's wisely asking about selling something that isn't a real IM business in order to invest for the longer-term in something that is.

No; it isn't. It's "a wing and a prayer", by comparison with a real IM business. (And that's also why lenses are so difficult to sell, and typically worth so disappointingly little, because the market understands so clearly that they're not "real businesses").

All these threads can help you to understand why, in great detail, but (as the saying goes) "only if you're willing to read them".

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...aste-time.html
Anyone make money on Squidoo?
Anyone Making above $ 100 Per Month with Squidoo ?
Affiliate Market in Squidoo?
Too Much Advertising on Squidoo??
Is Squidoo still okay to post article to?
How to subtly advertise on Squidoo and Hubpages?
How do I Use Squidoo Effectively?
Advice on Squidoo
What's the value of a Squidoo Lens?
Using Hubpages, Squidoo, and Tumblr to generate backlinks
A question about squidoo..

I'm sorry, but you're all wet on this.

Primarily, your "argument" is the OP doesn't "own" the property and therefore should bolt.

He's making money through online marketing. The end result is an income from online activities and whether or not you "own" the conduit from whence that money comes is totally not relevant.

If the OP had 1,000 pages on Squidoo and was making money from it, guess what? It's an IM business.

It's like saying article marketing is not a legitimate business cause guess what, you don't own the site or pages that your content is posted on. Bollocks. Comply with the site's terms and chances are your lens or article will stay up and continue drip feeding cash into one's bank account.

The fact that the OP wants to "sell" this one lens and attempt to buy "hosting" and "content" in hopes of living the "dream" of having his own website is not realistic.

If his claims are true, leave the lens alone and let it make money for him. Then let him go to Hostmonster or Bluehost or somewhere like that and get a hosting account, purchase or get a free piece of web design software, take the pen out and write some content and continue from there.

Own it or not, if I'm making money from something I don't give a flying *uck who owns it or not. Neither should the OP.

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Lee Murray

12 years ago

It seems like you really don't need to choose between web 2.0 pages (Squidoo, Blogger, etc.) and your own website(s). Use web 2.0 properties to send traffic and links to your site(s), and/or make a few bucks from the free sites as well. Diversification is a gem. Just make sure that the bulk of your love goes to your own site(s)... the property that you DO have full control over.

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

They're not worth much. People sell them in the Squidoo forum but no one pays much for them.

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WeavingThoughts

12 years ago

How much do you earn per month from the lens? I doubt if you would get more than 3 months worth so it is better to keep it and use it for one or two backlinks to your future main websites.

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zspuckl

12 years ago

Originally Posted by WeavingThoughts

How much do you earn per month from the lens? I doubt if you would get more than 3 months worth so it is better to keep it and use it for one or two backlinks to your future main websites.

Per Month is about $60 from Squidoo $10 from Azon Sales, and Anywhere from $25-$100 on CB...so if I could get like $250 I would be happy, it's not my niche anymore..

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zspuckl

12 years ago

I am following what you are saying, I think the best way to explain it is this, I used to sell furniture, now I sell electronics....I can't use the furniture adversting for the electronics, they are two differnt things...

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yasser

12 years ago

i think you should start your own website and then siphon traffic from your squidoo lens to your website

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zspuckl

12 years ago

The lens isn't in my niche and I want to drop it...

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GMD Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by zspuckl

The lens isn't in my niche and I want to drop it...

Let's drop this bad boy lens, then!

How to sell a Squidoo lens and why would you sell it
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- zspuckl 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GMD
  
  Let's drop this bad boy lens, then!
  
  How to sell a Squidoo lens and why would you sell it
  
  That offers no information on where to sell a lens...
  
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  dsimms 11 years ago
  
  That is interesting, what happened to the lens the op was selling back in 10/12 that everyone is so against; and i just have to say that some of you guys really have some deep mental issues about not owning anything when it comes to squidoo...
  
  Heck, i did not know you guys were so rich that you own everything you touch...us po people down in bama are jealous, any of you guys in this thread own your home, if not then it is bank owned, how about your car, or is that bank owned also? how about that server that you want to setup your own site on, so you own the services? the content on squidoo is yours, so is the content on your server, but you most likely dont own the server....
  
  I bet you i am the only one in this thread that is closer to owning a home then any of you, so what i have 5 roof leaks, holes in the floor, holes in the walls, backdoor falling off the hinge, front door lock doesnt work, but hey, it wont be long before i can say "I own it" How about the food you buy, did you own the factory before you went to the store to buy the food?
  
  I hate to tell you guys this, but most of us wont own much
  of anything before we die, unless you are rich; If you make
  a payment too anyone, then you dont own it; you guys are just so worried about not owning anything on squdioo; you feel that is far too important then if the world caught fire tomorrow...The world is coming to an end tomorrow, and some of you are thinking "We will never own anything on squidoo"
  
  Some of you say, dont use squdioo, market your own site...ok, im game, how many of you in this thread have a PR site comparable to squidoo"? maybe you guys have an axe to grid, or did something to violate their tos, and you got tossed, so your pissed about "not being able to own anything"
  
  and what you dont realize, you dont own anything now...
  not even your own women; she owns you....
  
  oh i cant stop now, how many people own your own cable company...
  you pay for it month after month, what, you are not complaining
  that you dont own the company you pay month after month?
  
  How about your cell service, do you own that? how come you are
  not bitching about how you cant own "cable" or "cell" service...?
  all it takes is a disaster, and it is all down for the count....
  
  Everything in this world that you "dont own" is just as much at risk of
  being taking away from you, and you are all crying like little
  girls about not being able to own "squidoo" seriously...
  
  life is a risk...
  squidoo is a risk...
  
  it can be over before you know it...
  
  get over it...
  
  all this started because people violated squidoo tos, and started
  crying because they couldnt have it their way; squidoo is
  not burger king, you cant have it your way. maybe some were
  making great money because they were spamming the world or
  whatever, then lost their 500 lens, sucks, should have
  followed the squidoo rules, and you would have been fine....
  you lost everything you had, now it has become you dont
  own anything with squidoo...well you never did...
  
  and one more thing, you dont own adsense either, you cross
  them, then kiss your A$$ to the moon, you wont be coming back...
  
  you do not own google either, but you surely do them a favor
  everytime you advertise, use their engine, use their many
  services from compaines they have bought out, and or mention their name...
  
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