How well do you guys know grammar?

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It seems to me that many of you guys know your grammar pretty well. Aside from the common sense grammar, do you guys know the proper rules and names of grammar usage is.

For example, I don't know any rules or names of anything really, aside from the extreme basics like verbs and nouns. But instead rely on just sensing if a sentence seems wrong or not.

Do you think knowing these rules is necessary, particularly for writing articles or for a blog?

Is there anything that you guys use that can help out in grammar. Like a free e-course or any books that you use?
#grammar #guys
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    If you are not confident in your spelling and/or gammar then you are best to outsource your work. You can still write it yourself, just pay someone to read over it and fix any spelling or punctuation errors. Nothing looks less professional than content that doesn't make sense or is poorly written. It's money well spent.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    If you are not confident in your spelling and/or gammar then you are best to outsource your work.Nice work with your spelling.
    I have excellent grammatical and spelling skills and can refer to other sites, including Google, if I need more info.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      If you are not confident in your spelling and/or gammar then you are best to outsource your work.Nice work with your spelling.
      Damn, you mean to say I am not perfect?!

      I guess the same could be said about your punctuation -- leaving spaces after full stops... :rolleyes:

      But we are humans and humans make mistakes, right?
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      • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        Damn, you mean to say I am not perfect?!

        I guess the same could be said about your punctuation -- leaving spaces after full stops... :rolleyes:

        But we are humans and humans make mistakes, right?
        Yes, there is no point in trying to be perfect because it´s impossible. Success is about progression, not perfection.

        You can hire 10 proofreaders just to figure out that all 10 are not perfect. As long as you deliver high quality work, you are not going to have any major disadvantages.
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      • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        Damn, you mean to say I am not perfect?!

        I guess the same could be said about your punctuation -- leaving spaces after full stops... :rolleyes:

        But we are humans and humans make mistakes, right?
        I know enough about grammar to know that a "full stop" is what most people don't do at stop signs when driving. But how do you leave a space after fully stopping?

        Is the ',' character a 'partial stop'? Does ';' mean stop for a moment then go again after spacing?

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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    If you are really serious about making money online, you must strive to get to the point where you are confident about your writing skills.

    Without having sufficient grammatical knowledge and skills yourself, it´s very hard to tell the quality of work done by a proofreader

    The key in improving your writing skills is self confidence. Make sure to not make the mistake to get into this with the absurd belief that everything you write has to be perfect because it never will be!

    Even though English is not my first language, I´m pretty sure that my writing skills exceed those of many native speakers.

    My tip: Have someone proof read your content until you substantially enhanced your own ability to write content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Soulsby
    Grammar is NOT important, it's all about copy and a lot of the best copy is written in a friendly, personal way (as people talk) and therefore has poor grammar.

    It depends who your writting for but in most cases people don't give a damn about grammar, they want it to be easy to read and informative or entertaining etc. it's only on the IM forums you get this obsession with spelling and grammar, I'm rubbish at both without software to correct it for me but I've made millions online. That says a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Griffin Smith
      Originally Posted by Daniel Soulsby View Post

      Grammar is NOT important, it's all about copy and a lot of the best copy is written in a friendly, personal way (as people talk) and therefore has poor grammar.

      It depends who your writting for but in most cases people don't give a damn about grammar, they want it to be easy to read and informative or entertaining etc. it's only on the IM forums you get this obsession with spelling and grammar
      Hmmm..

      Grammar IS important, especially in sales copy. It doesn't have to be formal or dry and boring but it does have to have some semblance of making sense.

      There is no bigger turn off (for me anyway) than reading a chunky, error ridden sales letter, article etc...

      If English is your second language or you don't have the patience or interest to make your copy correct, outsource it.

      I think people in IM forums have an obsession with making their product or service perfect in every detail and that involves making the text correct and readable...

      Just my 2c

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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    Originally Posted by kimonerz View Post

    It seems to me that many of you guys know your grammar pretty well. Aside from the common sense grammar, do you guys know the proper rules and names of grammar usage is.
    I know enough to be put off when someone ends a sentence with a preposition. But then, I also know enough about copywriting to be confident about breaking the rules on occasion.

    And I also remember Winston Churchill's rebuff to his secretary when she made such a correction i.e. "this is a kind of interference up with which I will not put."

    Will
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    I use Strunk & White's Elements of Style. Pick it up. Very easy read. Very valuable tips on grammar and sentence construction. It was required reading back in college but you will only truly appreciate its enduring value with heavy practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Reading is the best way to get good at grammar and punctuation. Just read anything so long as it's written by a well educated person. It's the quickest way to pick this stuff up. It'll happen much quicker than sitting down and trying to learn it by yourself. It will also be a lot more enjoyable.

    The same way people pick up new languages much faster by simply surrounding themselves with people who speak that language. It's the quickest way to learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beverley Boorer
    From your post, I'd say you write perfectly well enough for a blog. It doesn't have to be perfect when you are writing as yourself such as on a blog - unless you are a teacher and students will be reading it.
    It is quite possible that you also write well enough to write your own articles. The main thing is to use that spellchecker, but don't rely on it only. You can easily make a type that it will not catch. There are plenty of books on grammar on the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    I was checking out one of the resources mentioned by cyber in post 3. This page has a free (in exchange for an email) ebook on grammar. Plurals and Apostrophes (Mostly) Don

    Another free resource is this grammar check. Check your grammar on this page

    It isn't close to perfect and allows very bad stuff to go through, but sometimes it can point out some interesting things.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimonerz
    Thanks for the input guys. I guess content is still king.

    But, does anybody know an actual e-course where they guide you through grammar all the way from the beginning. Something along the lines of codecademy.com where it is interactive and step by step.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    You might try here:

    English Grammar 101

    Rose
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by caseyjohnso View Post

      I've been a professional writer for almost two years now.
      ...and?

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author teepee
    How did that word get spelled that way? Should be grammer. LOL
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