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Old 04-02-2009, 04:49 AM   #51
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I did made a website for the plumber coming to fix the washer and when I showed it to him he didn't believe he was really on the internet. It was funny but I did it for the fun of it by using their public local listing information.

I don't know if trademarks can be used the way you've described. You sound mean when you lay out the whole plan of attack --- somebody is GOING TO BUY IT and you WILL make sure of that!! Just be careful and be nice!! Don't forget to SMILE when you break it down. (: <<----smile big!! YOu win...

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I did made a website for the plumber coming to fix the washer and when I showed it to him he didn't believe he was really on the internet. It was funny but I did it for the fun of it by using their public local listing information.

I don't know if trademarks can be used the way you've described. You sound mean when you lay out the whole plan of attack --- somebody is GOING TO BUY IT and you WILL make sure of that!! Just be careful and be nice!! Don't forget to SMILE when you break it down. (: <<----smile big!! YOu win...

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Interesting model. Definitely would work better in some niches than others, though. You've got me interested, thanks!
Send some teenagers out to upscale business centers or industrial offices and have them take a quick survey and get their business card, brochure and email address. Calling on the phone rarely works and forget about getting an email address over the phone...people think you might do something to their computer that way!!

They can take that survey in person or the kids can show them how to log in and take a quick survey online. Have something free to leave with each even if it's only a balloon -- leave something to remember you by. Blinky lights work the best. People love those!! They run about $1-$1.50 each.

Now you know who's interested in what, what their budget is, etc.. so you can target offers that interest each one instead of wasting time. You can't SELL to them, they have to BUY what they WANT from you

Your follow up email should educate them so they WANT what you have to offer and then they will buy it. Always explain WHY, what's the reason behind your offer? If they don't know WHY, they won't buy. Explain the reason why and you'll have buyers every day of the week and twice on Sundays!

Companies that already have websites -- try not to insult them when you see what their "website" looks like. Some will swear the local yellow page listing is theirs and it comes up on "the" first page all the time!! ----Repeat, educate with reasons why!! (LOL) and have fun!! Kids need work too.

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This system and model works with all niches. The thing many overlook is that if you open your YP and look at every category, you will see big ads! Companies paying big money in every category.

You don't need to target lawyers or realtors solely because they deal with big numbers. Every niche can be targeted. I have sold to many different types of businesses and all spend!

Its all down to how you sell your service and how much value you can build up!

In most cases the businesses that deal with smaller amounts of money, are more receptive and interested in more advertising routes! And it is much easier to get a hold of the owner of a plumbing firm than trying to nail down a busy lawyer!

You hit gatekeeper after gatekeeper so my advice would be to hit different types of businesses. This model works in all!!!

Its awesome to see many already doing this, it is quite an obvious model as internet marketers we can do with ease! Take action people and just see what happens! ; )

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Once you have the site up and running and ranking for your keywords then it is time to sell it.

Looking through the PPC ads is a great way to get started.

What I have had more success with is heading on over to Craigslist and looking for companies advertising in that section.

If you are targeting malpractice attorneys in Denver, go to the denver section of CL and click on the legal services. Find a company that is advertising there and shoot them an email.

CL is a great place to find potential clients for your sites.
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i am also curious how many you have rented so far as well, and the success
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Great idea.a simple example to make money offline with online resources

Thanks for sharing
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Stayfocused - You are right on with CL! This is a method I use to rent some sites off. I also post in the section. For example if I was targeting plumbers in london, I would visit classified sites serving London Plumbers and post an ad in the plumbing section showing the site and the benefits! You can almost guarantee that plumbers posting ads will check out the rival ads first and BANG - Your There!

This almost always gets bites and sells sites! That combined with emailing plumbers and also calling them up gets sites selling quicktime.

Another thing as well is that most plumbers advertising on CL and other classified sites don't even have a website. This is a prime target and they almost always leave there email address!

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Stayfocused - You are right on with CL! This is a method I use to rent some sites off. I also post in the section. For example if I was targeting plumbers in london, I would visit classified sites serving London Plumbers and post an ad in the plumbing section showing the site and the benefits! You can almost guarantee that plumbers posting ads will check out the rival ads first and BANG - Your There!

This almost always gets bites and sells sites! That combined with emailing plumbers and also calling them up gets sites selling quicktime.

Another thing as well is that most plumbers advertising on CL and other classified sites don't even have a website. This is a prime target and they almost always leave there email address!

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Sorry is this is a dumb question GoGetta but what do you put in the CL ad - do you just say something along the lines of "Plumbing Website for Rent" and then display the website and explain its benefits?

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Hi Sue,

As far as the ad, I wouldn't put the fact I am renting a site in the title, I usually put something like:

In need of a website for your business?

Or

Struggling with the internet and generating new business from it?

And then I would simply explain what it is about and how much it costs making sure I put all details of rankings down etc.!

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Hi Sue,

As far as the ad, I wouldn't put the fact I am renting a site in the title, I usually put something like:

In need of a website for your business?

Or

Struggling with the internet and generating new business from it?

And then I would simply explain what it is about and how much it costs making sure I put all details of rankings down etc.!

HTH

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Ah so the fact that they will be renting a site from you CAN go in the description? sorry if I read that wrong, not eaten today, probably reading all kinds of things wrong lol, off to get food.. thanks for answering.

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Hehe, no problem!

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GoGetta

Where would you find the templates that you would use to build these sites and are they very simple in nature or would outsourcing the building of the sites be better.

Could you build a well targeted site using WP?

Really awesome idea, I am seriously going to do some research in my area tomorrow to see what keywords are available and grab some domains and go...

Thanks for the information about CL as well.

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I use wordpress for my portal and its starting to look amazing!

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I plan on targeting creative arts venues with the same type idea. I am curious as to whether mailing them, or calling them is better. I also have seen some of these businesses have email addresses but no websites. Perhaps emailing them the link to the site mock up will really spur their interest.

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After I read this post I did this in the past four days:

1. Bought CityStateProfession.com (eg RidgewoodNJTherapist.com)
2. Installed wordpress, free theme, wikipedia content, 5 sample pages, really nice original logo - the site looks really nice compared to many others for the same area/profession.
3. Blogged about the site from 5 of my junk blogs - got it indexed in Google
4. Found 20 professionals in the town listed in the yellow pages WITHOUT a website.
5. Sent them a letter (today) telling them about the site, whats great about the domain name, and that they can rent it for $137 mo or buy for $957.

Now I will wait and see what happens. If I get a customer I will do this over and over forever LOL.

Its 4/22, check with me on PM after 5/6 to see what happens. I am not going to do anything else with this except wait and see for two weeks.

Update 5/19: I used the online yellow pages for my letters - a mistake - 1/2 got sent back because the addresses were out of date. I need to redo this with the real latest phone book yellow pages. No inquiries otherwise. btw the way the site is here (and for sale - lol)

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Now I will wait and see what happens. If I get a customer I will do this over and over forever LOL.

Its 4/22, check with me on PM 5/6 to see what happens. I am not going to do anything else with this except wait and see.
Keep us posted!

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thats a great plan DNDOSELLER!

I already have a divorce lawyer site in my area that ranks many times top 10 for multiple keywords. I even put in the header advertise here.. but cannot seem to get any bites on attorneys. I mean you cant spam them. i suck at cold calling. I even tried to pass a couple of leads free of charge to them..no upsell..no contingency..just hey here they are. Most websites are in shambles...and never a response.

Anyone have a clue how i can get someone to advertise/rent a site that has awesome rankings to an attorney? I will try CL. Maybe I will run a press release.

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Awesome DND,

You may consider advertising it on CL as well! You are likely to get enquiries. Dont post in the web design section, post in the therapist section! ; )

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dndoseller, could you please explain what a "junk blog" is and how to use it? I'm kind of new to this ! Congrats for taking action, good work.
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I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe this was already covered...

re: I printed up 10,000 business cards with my (your!) domain name, etc. -- problem...

If you want to let that trip them up eventually, then say nothing. But if you want to disclose that possible future problem at the start, just tell them to keep their CURRENT (regular) url on their cards, and redirect the name to your new site.

That way they 'control' the people THEY get via handing out their cards, etc., and you 'control' the people who find them via searching the web (via your seo'd domain name).

make sense?

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Hi GoGetta,

This is a very interesting model that you've suggested here. I was just thinking of ways someone could get one of these sites up and running today right now and came up with ...

PPC marketing...

Get a <localarea><profession>.com domain name as suggested and set up a simple homepage with some original content at the bottom of which you have an opt-in form to collect leads. Quickly fill out the rest of the site with 5 pages of content from Ezine Articles or other similar sites. Add a privacy page and a contact page.

On the homepage advertise the fact that you have advertising space available, and limit that to one company - though it may be wise to add additional slots in competitive markets.

Now run a PPC campaign and drive traffic to the site until you sell your advertising slot(s). Meanwhile, any leads collected can be sold to any of the businesses already running ppc campaigns for the same set of keywords.

Let me know what you think.
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After I read this post I did this in the past four days:

1. Bought CityStateProfession.com (eg RidgewoodNJTherapist.com)
2. Installed wordpress, free theme, wikipedia content, 5 sample pages, really nice original logo - the site looks really nice compared to many others for the same area/profession.
3. Blogged about the site from 5 of my junk blogs - got it indexed in Google
4. Found 20 professionals in the town listed in the yellow pages WITHOUT a website.
5. Sent them a letter (today) telling them about the site, whats great about the domain name, and that they can rent it for $137 mo or buy for $957.

Now I will wait and see what happens. If I get a customer I will do this over and over forever LOL.

Its 4/22, check with me on PM after 5/6 to see what happens. I am not going to do anything else with this except wait and see for two weeks.
Wondering how this all went for you dndoseller?

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It's interesting to watch your experiment, dndoseller. This may seem odd to say, but maybe your problem is you're not pricing it high enough. If Robert can get $7K/mo. out of Houston attorneys, you should be able to do better than $137 in White Plains. People used to paying for high-priced services often associate low price with low quality. I would always adjust pricing according to the site's potential value in the particular market. The mailed letter is a good idea, but I think you should try and follow up with a phone call. Getting through screeners is tricky, but it can be done. You might consider outsourcing phone sales. I've known guys who could get through the Pentagon if they put their mind to it.
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A definate follow up is recommended. I always follow up on everything, emails, phone calls etc. I follow up until I am told NO! As business owners are busy and they get prospected to a lot, following up allows you to build rapport over time and also using the phone or walking in face to face means they will have to listen.

An email can be discarded, as long as you are polite and pleasant, your voice cant! (From Experience!) In reality your actually selling TRUST!

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... People used to paying for high-priced services often associate low price with low quality. I would always adjust pricing according to the site's potential value in the particular market...
Often, it's not even the perception of quality. Many times, it goes back to the image the buyer has of himself. They just don't see themselves as people who use low-priced services.

In another thread, I made an analogy to serving steaks at a barbecue. If you want to serve up filet mignon, you could get the meat at Wal-Mart for about $12/lb, Omaha Steaks for around $20/lb or Dean & DeLuca for $60/lb.

As the grandson of a master chef, you'll have a tough time convincing me that the Dean & DeLuca steak tastes five times better than the Wal-Mart steak. So there must be another factor...

The truth is, Wal-Mart, Omaha Steaks and Dean & DeLuca occupy different niches within the "meat" market, and buyers buy from one or the other because of the image they hold of themselves or the image they want to project.

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Great Analogy and Advice John! So Right!

I believe that all business owners will spend big if they believe and trust in the value in what you are offering!

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Just discovered this thread - just can't figure out what you're putting on these sample sites. Won't they require a LOT of customization/redoing things when you find someone to rent it???

But you ARE pricing that customization work accordingly, I guess?

And on these sites that are showing up for targeted search terms, you ARE saying that it's for rent somewhere?

Was just thinking too - there are probably certain industries that are a bit more "generic" than others - in other words, services offered don't vary a great deal. Might be better to target those - say, hair salons. Or handyman services. Plumbing. Lawn care. Carpet cleaning.

Notice in Google Maps that quite a few listings in some of those categories aren't developed sites, either.

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Is this a topic that is discussed more fully in that Special Forces section???

Would actually see some examples - some evidence that this works, and how!

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Just discovered this thread - just can't figure out what you're putting on these sample sites. Won't they require a LOT of customization/redoing things when you find someone to rent it???
You kind of answered this with your last paragraph (for me anyway) I am doing sites to begin with which are more generic, as you say, like hair salons. And for me again, how much work is involved will be determined by which rental package they pick

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yup, trying to, I have to test that though.

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On my sites I am yes, can't answer for the others, I think GoGetta uses the phone to ring potential clients once he has the site set up - once I am more organized I will probably go face to face to begin with AND have a little box on the website saying it is avilable for rent should someone come by it. Once a site is rented then that box will be taken down off the site.


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Y'know - you could tweak this idea and use it for ANYBODY you meet who doesn't have a site yet and says they can't afford one.

Tell 'em you'll build a site that they can rent. Maybe $200 upfront - but YOU OWN IT.

You might not want to make that offer to people in odd niches - but could work, otherwise.

That way too you take SEO and rankings out of the equation altogether.

Could even be sort of a "rent to own" deal if you want - they own it after their payments have reached "X" amount.

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but do you actually make more by renting it rather than putting up affiliate links? If you're ranking nicely that should be some nice affiliate money for you, I guess you could do both! maximizing profits!
You can't get affiliates for everything. Some keywords would help offline businesses more. If someone wants a doctor, they want a doctor, not a clickbank ebook. And it's a lot easier to rank for local searches since most people go for the more abundant "international" searches, so there's less work involved.
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After I read this post I did this in the past four days:

1. Bought CityStateProfession.com (eg RidgewoodNJTherapist.com)
2. Installed wordpress, free theme, wikipedia content, 5 sample pages, really nice original logo - the site looks really nice compared to many others for the same area/profession.
3. Blogged about the site from 5 of my junk blogs - got it indexed in Google
4. Found 20 professionals in the town listed in the yellow pages WITHOUT a website.
5. Sent them a letter (today) telling them about the site, whats great about the domain name, and that they can rent it for $137 mo or buy for $957.

Now I will wait and see what happens. If I get a customer I will do this over and over forever LOL.

Its 4/22, check with me on PM after 5/6 to see what happens. I am not going to do anything else with this except wait and see for two weeks.

Update 5/19: I used the online yellow pages for my letters - a mistake - 1/2 got sent back because the addresses were out of date. I need to redo this with the real latest phone book yellow pages. No inquiries otherwise.

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Briliant idea !!! I like your mindsite...creative people I think this bussiness model will popular at the next period....
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This has been a very informative and helpful thread. Thanks.

To get the most for a site, has anyone thought about offering it to the highest bidder somehow?

Also, the site will need to be optimized on a regular basis, including backlinks, to stay at a high rank on Google, I imagine. Especially down the road, when local search intensifies.

How is this cost deferred to the customer?
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how do you ensure that you site is not stolen from you , please are effective is this in generating cash on a long term basis
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Skyward - I have been costing in 2 ways, setup fee to make changes to content or/and design, this cost is dependent on what needs changing. Then a monthly fee to keep it maintained (Building Links)

Seye - Yes this is great for long term business. You can build up an army of rental sites quickly and if your renting them all out, you will be making some nice money. Its uncapped, the morre you do the more you earn. What's more you can always choose to impose contracts. 12 months etc. This way your sites have a guaranteed 12 month income.

If they are in the right niche and optimzed for the right keywords though, what business owner out there wouldn't want to keep this forever. Further down the line you can offer to sell the site to them for good for huge $$$$$$$!

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Dexx, I think you'd be on VERY dangerous ground. Unless you could show you had a legit reason for using their name in that way.

agreed. Me, as the biz owner would get kinda pissed ...
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agreed. Me, as the biz owner would get kinda pissed ...
How is that any different than say getting a #1 ranking for a ClickBank product using a review site, and in that review site promoting a competitor's product?

Or all the Adwords campaigns that say "SUCH AND SUCH IS A SCAM!!!! Click Here for a Product that Works!" etc.

If I got a #1 ranking for McDonalds Los Angeles, and then stated the reasons I dont like McDs on the site and sent visitors to a landing page for a Burger King coupon...that would be in my right legally to do so...

Now if McDs wanted to pay me to not send visitors to their competition...that would also be legal

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How is that any different than say getting a #1 ranking for a ClickBank product using a review site, and in that review site promoting a competitor's product?

Or all the Adwords campaigns that say "SUCH AND SUCH IS A SCAM!!!! Click Here for a Product that Works!" etc.

If I got a #1 ranking for McDonalds Los Angeles, and then stated the reasons I dont like McDs on the site and sent visitors to a landing page for a Burger King coupon...that would be in my right legally to do so...

Now if McDs wanted to pay me to not send visitors to their competition...that would also be legal
Forgive me if I am wrong Dexx but it sounds like blackmailing....

Blackmail means specifically obtaining something of value under the threat to disclose something shameful or disreputable about a person. This can be true even if it would not have been illegal to simply make the reputation-damaging information public.
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Fair enough, I think it all boils down to how I would approach them...

If I create the site and simply let them know I have the #1 spot and that its for sale, then whatever happens next is up to them.

I wont say "pay me or else I'll ruin you" but simply saying that I will offer my website to their competition is fair

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I wouldn't even suggest that you are willing to offer the website to a competitor. Regardless of the law, you would be seen as someone NOT worthy of doing business with: why because all business relationships depend on trust.

You want the business owner to see you as worthy of his or her trust. Stabbing them in the back like this would only make it harder to sell any other product to them in the future. Be careful: Say instead. I'm sorry I couldn't interest you in my product or site... and either What could I change to make the site interesting to you? or Would it be okay if I kept you on my contacts list in case another offer came up in future?...

Saying you will offer a site to a competitor is burning bridges... and it's not necessary to do this. You will not be able to restore a damaged reputation easily.

And I know: I'm in business.

If someone approached me with that line of reasoning, I'd be quite likely to say 'fine... sell the site to my competitor'... or 'Take a hike'. It won't wash.

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Hrmmm good point on the trust POV

okay you win! =]

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Simply ask someone who turns you down for several references to someone else in their business that might be interested in your deal.

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Simply ask someone who turns you down for several references to someone else in their business that might be interested in your deal.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick." - Theodore Roosevelt
or ask for constructive critcism...
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How is that any different than say getting a #1 ranking for a ClickBank product using a review site, and in that review site promoting a competitor's product?

Or all the Adwords campaigns that say "SUCH AND SUCH IS A SCAM!!!! Click Here for a Product that Works!" etc.

If I got a #1 ranking for McDonalds Los Angeles, and then stated the reasons I dont like McDs on the site and sent visitors to a landing page for a Burger King coupon...that would be in my right legally to do so...

Now if McDs wanted to pay me to not send visitors to their competition...that would also be legal
It would also be legal for them to sic one of their kazillion staff lawyers on you for misappropriating their trademark for your own purposes. It may or may not be a specious case. Doesn't matter. Unless you are willing to outspend them on legal fees, you'll back down...

Large corporations often seem more willing to make an example of a smaller business, rather than spending a bunch of money cutting deals with little guys and then monitoring them.

Ask anybody who has ever tried to use Disney's trademarks to sell something not approved by Disney.

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I like Michael's answer to the immediate dilemma Dexx, but there is a another problem you will soon encounter with that sort of a sales approach. Turnover. Just as you want,no NEED, to maintain continuity from ad to landing page, you want to do the same with your domain name, SEO, and site pages.

If you approach Joe the Plumber and offer him a website optimized for Paul the Plumber and tell him to put that slanderous "I had a bad experience with..." headline on it, you'll get a fair amount of drive by traffic. That sort of headline will draw in traffic. BUT...

It will be traffic that bounces right back out when they see what they will consider "bait and switch," or worse..."if I can't trust Paul the Plumber, why should I trust Joe?"

Then, in three months when Joe comes to you and says "I've gotten no results and I'm going to tell everyone in town what a scam you're running," you've just shot your own business in the foot.

So I would err even further on the side of speaking softly and not even use the word "rent." I would simply provide them a site, domain and hosting for a full year at a cost that breaks down to XYZ per month ... and the right to renew of course.
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It would also be legal for them to sic one of their kazillion staff lawyers on you for misappropriating their trademark for your own purposes. It may or may not be a specious case. Doesn't matter. Unless you are willing to outspend them on legal fees, you'll back down...

Large corporations often seem more willing to make an example of a smaller business, rather than spending a bunch of money cutting deals with little guys and then monitoring them.

Ask anybody who has ever tried to use Disney's trademarks to sell something not approved by Disney.
That is the beautiful thing about the internet. If you don't use the term McDonalds in the domain name anywhere then you should be fine. They don't own the rights to be ranked for " McDonalds Los Angeles".

You would be giving a review on a product (Mcdonalds in LA) and you where ranked for that keyword. They would have no legal ground to go after you.

Now that doesn't mean that they can't make your life a living hell because like you say, they have lawyers on retainer who are making money without doing any work.

But don't confuse being ranked for keywords that are trademarked and using trademarked keywords in your domain.

2 totally different ballgames in my opinion. And just for the record, that is JUST MY OPINION. And unless someone tapped me to fill the Supreme Court Seat coming up then it will stay JUST my opinion.
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A little off subjet but here's one way I have for:

Getting round the gatekeeper,



Pick a niche get the site up and type up a short PDF detailing the benefits of your offering, no prices, no BS, just the benefits and put at the end that you will be calling back to run through it in more detail. I am talking 2 pages at most! You don't want to give too much aaway and you don't want to bore anyone.

Next up get a list of businesses and call them. Ask to speak with the owner or the person who deals with the company promotion. You will most likely get a "Sorry they are busy!" etc.

Then just ask for the name of who you intend to speak to and say you want to send them something so can you have there business or personal email. You will 9 out of 10 times get this.

Then in the subject, type in F.A.O (There Name)

Within the email explained you called earlier and as they were busy you attached a copy of a report they will be interested in taking a look at if they are interested in generating more leads from the internet. Give a little spiel about yourself and make sure you keep this mighty personal, so you don't come across like an agent in the email, you come across like a fellow biz owner.

Then at the end explain you intend to call back but if they run through it sooner, they should call you on xxx-xxx-xxx.

Then all you do iss call back 2-3 days later and ask to speak to the "Name" you got. If they ask who it is, just say its "Your Name" and you sent an email a few days ago and they will know who you are.

This way the gatekeeper will ask her boss if they can put you through, 9 out of 10 times you will get through and have the opportunity to pitch your offering. You see, gatekeepers are paid to keepm you out and even if there boss is in and not busy they will say he or she is, so this technique will actually get them to at least ask! Some will tell you they aint interested as expected but you will find the interested ones and you have a footing to open the call.

Hi Mr business owner, did you recieve my email?

Bam you are now talking with the biz owner!

The good thing about this is that the majority won't have even looked at the email and will then be thinking, S*** I should of looked at that, you can then arrange to send it again etc. This way over time and over a few calls you build rapport and trust to close the sale!

There are benefits to bosses guarded by gatekeepers! They dont get pitched on internet and advertising as much as bosses that answer the phone! ; )

Voila!

Now Go Get Em!

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