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Warriorforum Joining Fee Isnt Enough!

by Luke Gregory
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Dear The WarriorForum Admins,

I just want to start this post by this saying I strongly believe that the warrior forum having a joining fee is a great step in the correct direction and will get rid of the majority people of people asking stupid questions who are not genuinely serious about the business and want that one click button that will drive them to millionaire status & of-course the trolls.

But there are more problems with the warrior forum, and I believe this problem is in the warrior special offer section of the forum I myself am a product creator and I strongly believe in only bringing products which I use myself or that are proven to work by a partner or friend, I also never release rehashed rubbish just to build the buyers list and make a quick buck.

I've just checked a product launch calendar and the average amount of launches per day on a weekday is around six product launches PER DAY.

Now I have no problem at all with having so many launches per day in-fact I'm glad people are taking action and I'm glad people actually creating products to help others.

But one thing that really annoys me is when I see people stealing other people's ideas or rehashing old content just to get into product creation.

I believe all that is doing is giving the warrior forum special offer section a bad name and reputation, for example I know people who don't even like launching on the warrior forum any more as it can devalue the product… In some cases, not all.

Now I know this can be very hard to police, but I have a suggestion which may or may not be possible...

I believe that the money that is invested into the warrior forum via advertising fees, joining fees, WSO Fees and bump fees should be used to pay for a review team,

which will review all new products trying to be listed on the warrior forum and put a stop to everyone who is trying to rehash old content just to make a quick buck. Its bad for the forum members and in some cases make's other product owners or creators look bad.

How do you feel about this? And what else do you think could be added to the warrior forum to stop all these rogue product creators.

lets put a stop to recycling content, and poor products once and for all!!!

P.S THIS IS JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT, DONT WANT A FLAME WAR WITH ANYONE...

P.P.S I DO ADVERTISE ELSE WHERE, ITS JUST SAD TO SEE THE WSO SECTION BEING FLOODED WITH RUBBISH
#fee #joining #warriorforum
  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by Luke Gregory View Post

    But there are more problems with the warrior forum, and I believe this problem is in the warrior special offer section of the forum I myself am a product creator and I strongly believe in only bringing products which I use myself or that are proven to work by a partner or friend, I also never release rehashed rubbish just to build the buyers list and make a quick buck.
    The sad part is that there are a few WSO out there that are kind of fake meaning that the person's who are offering these products or teaching people the secrets to what ever problem people are faced with, never used it themselves.

    They basically copy and paste from others who are really genuine and honest.
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  • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
    I for one found the remake of Oceans 11 to be a much better movie than the original.

    I think a lot of folks misunderstand the role the Warrior Forum plays here. The WSO section is a classified section where people pay to post an advertisement. It is no different than buying advertising in a magazine or on TV, neither of which will refuse your ad if you offer up rehashed content.
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    • Profile picture of the author Luke Gregory
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      I for one found the remake of Oceans 11 to be a much better movie than the original.

      I think a lot of folks misunderstand the role the Warrior Forum plays here. The WSO section is a classified section where people pay to post an advertisement. It is no different than buying advertising in a magazine or on TV, neither of which will refuse your ad if you offer up rehashed content.
      EBR.. In some cases a remake is needed, fair enough, but I mean almost every week you see a new "list building product" how many way can you teach someone to build a list??
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      • Profile picture of the author E. Brian Rose
        Originally Posted by Luke Gregory View Post

        EBR.. In some cases a remake is needed, fair enough, but I mean almost every week you see a new "list building product" how many way can you teach someone to build a list??
        Not to sound harsh, but you are acting like the WSO section is the only place in the world to advertise your products. If you don't like the WSO section or the content being advertised by others, then why use it? The world is your oyster, my friend.
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        • Profile picture of the author Luke Gregory
          Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

          Not to sound harsh, but you are acting like the WSO section is the only place in the world to advertise your products. If you don't like the WSO section or the content being advertised by others, then why use it? The world is your oyster, my friend.

          Not at all mate, I operate in different niches not just MMO, I run ads all other the place for my products, I just think the WSO section use to be higher quality products, but now everyone is just doing it to make a quick buck, wouldn't you prefer a lot fewer products which actually helped people instead of people just reselling the same old crap.
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          • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
            Originally Posted by Luke Gregory View Post

            I just think the WSO section use to be higher quality products, but now everyone is just doing it to make a quick buck ... just reselling the same old crap.
            Was that your product screaming about how a 21 year old loser became a marketing superstar in 3 months? The barely legal ... discovers new secret ... rest of world and experienced marketers overlooked - has only been rehashed ten thousand times.

            The point being it is all in the eye of the buyer / reviewer. Now that you're a 21 year old expert some things may appear rehashed to you. But to the 20 year old newbie it could be eye opening.

            If you want WSOs to go through a review service open one yourself. Ironically, issue has also been previously beat to death and this is just a rehashed thread. There have also been prior threads about increasing the WSO listing fee.

            So while maybe this is new to you, some of us roll our eyes about this rehashed issue. But you don't see your thread being nuked, and there is no new to broadly denigrate the WSO forum and sellers other than yourself.

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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            We are not going to start reviewing actual products. This has been suggested many times, and sounds fine until you look at what's involved.

            First, there are just too many of them. Not enough time in the day, and hiring people to do nothing but review things is more complicated than just spending cash. You'd need people who were familiar with all phases of the business, and those people aren't going to do reviews all day long.

            Second, that would give any approved ad the appearance of having been endorsed by the forum itself. Leaving aside potential liability issues, that has the unfortunate effect of making people less cautious. That's not something we encourage.

            Avoiding buying "rehashed" material is easy:

            Don't buy from blind ads.
            Don't buy stuff that promises knowledge you already have.
            Ask questions.


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      • Profile picture of the author Jesse L
        Originally Posted by Luke Gregory View Post

        EBR.. In some cases a remake is needed, fair enough, but I mean almost every week you see a new "list building product" how many way can you teach someone to build a list??
        I would imagine the amount of ways are unlimited. Have your kids give away lemonade and gather emails from every one of their customers.

        I believe the real problem is the WSOs not being real "special offers" for Warrior members. If these are truely special offers then the price should be higher on the outside or not even exist for the public. I do know that time after time regarding product creation questions it is mentioned to rewrite and rebrand things that have already worked. This coming from some of the elders here.

        I really do not see a problem with rehashing old content. I mean, how many vacuum cleaners can you go buy from one store? How many different types of soap? They all do the same thing...

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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose View Post

      I for one found the remake of Oceans 11 to be a much better movie than the original.

      I think a lot of folks misunderstand the role the Warrior Forum plays here. The WSO section is a classified section where people pay to post an advertisement. It is no different than buying advertising in a magazine or on TV, neither of which will refuse your ad if you offer up rehashed content.

      Not even close....The original with The Rat Pack was great and the closing scene an absolute classic.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Why not join the thread already in progress on the new fee rather than start yet another thread about it?

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...free-join.html
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  • Profile picture of the author iJonathan
    I think thats a good idea by Luke. A review team clearing the WSO or stuff for sale will make WF a much better place than a bill board. It helps original ideas stay afloat and in fact improves buyer's confidence both of the seller and the forum.

    Admins. Consider this proposal. I trust it only takes the forum a step ahead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by Luke Gregory View Post

    I believe that the money that is invested into the warrior forum via advertising fees, joining fees, WSO Fees and bump fees should be used to pay for a review team,

    which will review all new products trying to be listed on the warrior forum and put a stop to everyone who is trying to rehash old content just to make a quick buck. Its bad for the forum members and in some cases make's other product owners or creators look bad.
    Sounds like a nightmare, and a good way to invite all kinds of unwanted and unnecessary liability down on Allen's head.

    Stuff like, "Your review team okay'd this... so I spent my last $50 on it... but I haven't made any money... therefore, you are at fault!"

    I'd give it about a day before the first complaint like that was made!
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    • Profile picture of the author Luke Gregory
      Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

      Sounds like a nightmare, and a good way to invite all kinds of unwanted and unnecessary liability down on Allen's head.

      Stuff like, "Your review team okay'd this... so I spent my last $50 on it... but I haven't made any money... therefore, you are at fault!"

      I'd give it about a day before the first complaint like that was made!
      I agree, with this also, but thats why i said it a suggestion, Clickbank reviews products, I cant imagine them getting those kind of emails.
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    • Profile picture of the author iJonathan
      Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

      Sounds like a nightmare, and a good way to invite all kinds of unwanted and unnecessary liability down on Allen's head.

      Stuff like, "Your review team okay'd this... so I spent my last $50 on it... but I haven't made any money... therefore, you are at fault!"

      I'd give it about a day before the first complaint like that was made!
      Well, the review is just avoid duplicacy and based on feedback take necessary action.There can be appropriate disclaimers and I dont think its something that would make Allen's head reel. I suppose he can have a good lawyer as well in the team.
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  • Profile picture of the author Abul-Hussain
    Most of us seasoned marketers don't buy WSO after WSO.

    When you go into policing WSOs, you move in between a rock and a hard place.

    I have heard of some marketers creating WSOs that teach marketing tactics, which they have never used themselves.

    How do you stop a person in that case? Their theory is sound, but what they're teaching isn't a part of their own marketing mix.

    Furthermore, a clever product owner wouldn't solely use a WSO to launch their product.

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    • Profile picture of the author stevemorrison
      It is true that there is some garbage on WSO, but the same can be said for Clickbank, and basically any other selling platform. It is still up to the buyer to decide whether they should buy or not. Plus, if there is a guarantee and the item is garbage, refund it, or post something on the forum thread so that others know not to waste their time.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    I think some kind of rating system maybe a better solution so people could rate WSO's, but only if they have bought it.

    To determine whether someone has bought a WSO, there could be an ID which you get after payment which then lets you rate the WSO, based on five different factors such as value for money, quality of information, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author MyiMall
    Originally Posted by Luke Gregory View Post


    Now I know this can be very hard to police, but I have a suggestion which may or may not be possible...

    ...a review team, which will review all new products trying to be listed on the warrior forum and put a stop to everyone who is trying to rehash old content just to make a quick buck. Its bad for the forum members and in some cases make's other product owners or creators look bad.
    We pretty much DO have a "review team" - it's every one of us on the forum looking at the offers. If the product being offered is rehashed "rubbish" - I don't think anyone has a problem calling the seller out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    You see. That's why I only drink Coke. Pepsi just ripped them off and rehashed cola.

    :rollseyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Gdetonator
      Originally Posted by Andy Fletcher View Post

      You see. That's why I only drink Coke. Pepsi just ripped them off and rehashed cola.

      :rollseyes:
      I thought I was the only one feeling this... good to know am not alone..
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