Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
Share
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-04-2012, 08:37 PM   #1
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
GlenH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sydney - AUSTRALIA.
Posts: 1,092
Thanks: 1
Thanked 280 Times in 143 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to GlenH
Default How to Find The Best Outsourcers

HI Guys,

I know this question has possibly been asked dozens of times here, but I'll ask it again.

I'm trying bring on-board one maybe two outsourcers who can do the 'usual' stuff.(link building, article and press release submisssions, etc, etc),

I've been down the ODesk route, but I wasn't too impressed with my experiences there (although maybe I made the wrong choices in the first place )

From what I gather, many marketers have great success outsourcing to the Philippines, but I haven't found an efficient way to tap into that market.

Any suggestions, or advice?

Thanks

Glen

GlenH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 08:41 PM   #2
High As A Kite Warrior
War Room Member
 
David Braybrooke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Up With The Birds.
Posts: 711
Thanks: 958
Thanked 431 Times in 307 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

This thread might help you Glen. 10 Great Sites That Can Help Cut-Down Your IM Workload!

I have found Elance to be worthwhile!

"The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are composed entirely of lost airline luggage." - Mark Russell
David Braybrooke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 08:45 PM   #3
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
GlenH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sydney - AUSTRALIA.
Posts: 1,092
Thanks: 1
Thanked 280 Times in 143 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to GlenH
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Hey David,

Thanks for that

GlenH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 08:46 PM   #4
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
eglassman88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 412
Thanks: 149
Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenH View Post
Hey David,

Thanks for that
Glen,

Personally, I've found my best freelancers off of forums. If I can't find them on a forum, I go to Freelance. I've have great success down both of these routes.

Best,

Edward

eglassman88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 08:49 PM   #5
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: US
Posts: 148
Thanks: 25
Thanked 29 Times in 26 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Have you tried Staff.com? They've got a good database of full time remote workers that you could choose from. You can browse by skill so you can only hire the specific ones for the job you need done.
bradstern is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 09:12 PM   #6
Silent Throatcutter Ninja
 
watsonovedades's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Mexico
Posts: 774
Thanks: 37
Thanked 71 Times in 69 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via AIM to watsonovedades
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Odesk all the way

Whatever your mind can conceive and BELIEVE you can achieve
Sigueme en mi blog sobre Marketing por Internet en Espaņol

watsonovedades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 09:22 PM   #7
The Best
 
Corey Geer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: On The Internet
Posts: 786
Thanks: 26
Thanked 228 Times in 168 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Quote:
Originally Posted by eglassman88 View Post
Glen,

Personally, I've found my best freelancers off of forums. If I can't find them on a forum, I go to Freelance. I've have great success down both of these routes.

Best,

Edward
I'll vouch for this one. My question is kind of in reverse such as how to find the best clients because unlike Edward who responds right away and is always available when he needs his content done, the majority of clients are never anywhere to be find.

Most clients take days or weeks to respond (some never respond at all). Or they turn into "Joint Venture" people who instead of hiring you want to work with you since they run out of money.

Now, I've been your side of the fence as well from a hiring standpoint. I used to hire people for content creation and let me give you my general insight.

STAY FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM ODESK. There are a few golden gems on there and great content writers but you better be prepared to pay a $30-100/hourly price (or per article). The rest of ODesk however is filled with foreigners and "agents" who act as Native English writers for the foreigners. You'll be presented with some of the most bullcrap garbage content you've ever seen after days past your deadline.

In my profile, I have probably hired 100 people on Odesk to give them a shot and I can honestly say most of them turned out the exact same as the previous. They would never make deadlines, they would produce sub-par content, they would go MIA or offline for weeks on end, etc.

The biggest problem I have with people outsourcing is they expect ROCKSTAR AWESOME QUALITY content at some bogus $.50 or $1.00 per 100 word rate.

Fiverr

I honestly don't get why so many people are stuck on this site.. it's a cesspool of cheap writers who deliver average or crap content. Some people swear by writers on Fiverr but then they wonder why their content is never compelling or keeps people coming back

The best place to find a Freelancer or Outsourcer in my opinion isn't on the Forums, not on Elance, not on iWriter, not on ODesk or any other popular platform. It's through independent websites for professionals. The only draw to this is, that you'll have to pay a very hefty price.

I'm on hiatus from writing until my website is set up. For pricing information, PM me or add me to Skype.
Corey Geer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 09:38 PM   #8
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: , , .
Posts: 5,685
Thanks: 1,513
Thanked 2,162 Times in 979 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Elance and fiverr....

once you master these, and know what you need done, and learn how to explain your tasks like you are talking to a 5 year old...lol.... you can cut out 90% of your day to day boring routine tasks. :-)

Would You Risk $50.00 To Make $2000 Dollars a Month. Opportunity Of A Lifetime Staring You In The Face Here! -- (( PM Me For More))
celente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 09:49 PM   #9
Ever a Student
War Room Member
 
Sarevok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Boston, Massachusetts (USA)
Posts: 1,533
Thanks: 447
Thanked 501 Times in 371 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

I think elance is your best bet. The last dude I hired on Odesk totally blew me off (And I wasted $300 in fresh leads as a result) and the guy had a decent rating.

Elance it is.


Sarevok is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-04-2012, 10:46 PM   #10
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 37
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Recommended Odesk and fiverr

jutipum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 02:31 AM   #11
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 65
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

It's depend my your work.
If I want quality work and want to hire specialist I go to Odesk.com
(odesk is good for me because I love pay per hour )

If I want normal work like proof reading, video recording, etc I using Fiverr
(Almost $5 per job)
Niranpr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 03:04 AM   #12
HyperActive Warrior
 
Elle Davies's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: London, UK
Posts: 127
Thanks: 16
Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Try:
Elance
Guru
Micro job sites (Fiverr, Fourerr etc)

If you've had bad experiences on oDesk, make sure you go for a contractor that has good references or positive ratings so that you know what you're getting.

Maybe even check out the WSO section and see if anyone there is offering a service that you could use?

Need an Expert 'ENGLISH NATIVE' GhostWriter?
I'm offering my personal services on Fiverr for $5,
Click Here Now to reveal A* reviews left by others.
Elle Davies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 03:34 AM   #13
GavinBirchall.com
War Room Member
 
gcbmark20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 928
Blog Entries: 127
Thanks: 209
Thanked 278 Times in 220 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Hi Glen you can try these:

traffic generation:
ContentDivas.com

marketing tasks:
123employee.com

very affordable service:
HireMyMom.com

huge list of freelancers:
PeoplePerHour.com

for those on a budget:
freelancer.com
vWorker.com

Get credits for future projects:
Guru.com

Hope these help you out and all the best my friend!!!

gcbmark20 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 03:50 AM   #14
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 65
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Before I hire someone to work for me.
I will see rating, past works, and interview them to proof they reach my expectation.

Ask them good question in work field.
Such as what is link wheel?
Tell me about how to optimize good content for link building?
Niranpr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 04:20 AM   #15
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
WeavingThoughts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,514
Thanks: 549
Thanked 242 Times in 155 Posts
Contact Info
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Full service IM firms may become too expensive to use.

Have a guy/team for everything like copy, content, link building, seo etc. And then have a team of VAs to manage them. Will get better results and may even turn out to be a bit cheaper.

WeavingThoughts is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 05:17 AM   #16
Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 14
Thanks: 1
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

I have had mixed results with ODESK - dont go for the cheapest option is my advice, as a minimum I don't hire people with an hourly rate of less than $10..you get what you pay for!

TheProsperousMarketer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 05:46 AM   #17
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Travis Cody's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 237
Thanks: 33
Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts
Contact Info
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Quote:
Originally Posted by watsonovedades View Post
Odesk all the way

Yup... I second to that... But I always post my job as fixed price... it's better than the hourly contract..
Travis Cody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 05:55 AM   #18
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 113
Thanks: 1
Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

I've had positive experience with oDesk so far ... 3/4 were hourly contracts, I've spent over $2,000 so far. I've soon discovered that people simply don't work well for $1/hour, so now I'm paying at least $3/ hour (usually around $4).

Jacob Sterbenk, JV Manager
http://www.spinrewriter.com/
Jacob Sterbenk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 07:36 AM   #19
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
eglassman88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 412
Thanks: 149
Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: How to Find The Best Outsourcers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corey Geer View Post
I'll vouch for this one. My question is kind of in reverse such as how to find the best clients because unlike Edward who responds right away and is always available when he needs his content done, the majority of clients are never anywhere to be find.

Most clients take days or weeks to respond (some never respond at all). Or they turn into "Joint Venture" people who instead of hiring you want to work with you since they run out of money.

Now, I've been your side of the fence as well from a hiring standpoint. I used to hire people for content creation and let me give you my general insight.

STAY FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM ODESK. There are a few golden gems on there and great content writers but you better be prepared to pay a $30-100/hourly price (or per article). The rest of ODesk however is filled with foreigners and "agents" who act as Native English writers for the foreigners. You'll be presented with some of the most bullcrap garbage content you've ever seen after days past your deadline.

In my profile, I have probably hired 100 people on Odesk to give them a shot and I can honestly say most of them turned out the exact same as the previous. They would never make deadlines, they would produce sub-par content, they would go MIA or offline for weeks on end, etc.

The biggest problem I have with people outsourcing is they expect ROCKSTAR AWESOME QUALITY content at some bogus $.50 or $1.00 per 100 word rate.

Fiverr

I honestly don't get why so many people are stuck on this site.. it's a cesspool of cheap writers who deliver average or crap content. Some people swear by writers on Fiverr but then they wonder why their content is never compelling or keeps people coming back

The best place to find a Freelancer or Outsourcer in my opinion isn't on the Forums, not on Elance, not on iWriter, not on ODesk or any other popular platform. It's through independent websites for professionals. The only draw to this is, that you'll have to pay a very hefty price.
Thanks for the kind words, Corey! You're one of the BEST freelancers I've found on forums. Prime example.

eglassman88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum

Bookmarks

Tags
find, outsourcers

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:20 PM.