How to Find The Best Outsourcers

[GlenH]

HI Guys,

I know this question has possibly been asked dozens of times here, but I'll ask it again.

I'm trying bring on-board one maybe two outsourcers who can do the 'usual' stuff.(link building, article and press release submisssions, etc, etc),

I've been down the ODesk route, but I wasn't too impressed with my experiences there (although maybe I made the wrong choices in the first place )

From what I gather, many marketers have great success outsourcing to the Philippines, but I haven't found an efficient way to tap into that market.

Any suggestions, or advice?

Thanks

Glen

[David Braybrooke]

This thread might help you Glen. 10 Great Sites That Can Help Cut-Down Your IM Workload!

I have found Elance to be worthwhile!

[GlenH]

Hey David,

Thanks for that

[eglassman88]

Originally Posted by GlenH

Hey David,

Thanks for that

Glen,

Personally, I've found my best freelancers off of forums. If I can't find them on a forum, I go to Freelance. I've have great success down both of these routes.

Best,

Edward

[bradstern]

Have you tried Staff.com? They've got a good database of full time remote workers that you could choose from. You can browse by skill so you can only hire the specific ones for the job you need done.

[watsonovedades]

Odesk all the way

[Corey Geer]

Originally Posted by eglassman88

Glen,

Personally, I've found my best freelancers off of forums. If I can't find them on a forum, I go to Freelance. I've have great success down both of these routes.

Best,

Edward

I'll vouch for this one. My question is kind of in reverse such as how to find the best clients because unlike Edward who responds right away and is always available when he needs his content done, the majority of clients are never anywhere to be find.

Most clients take days or weeks to respond (some never respond at all). Or they turn into "Joint Venture" people who instead of hiring you want to work with you since they run out of money.

Now, I've been your side of the fence as well from a hiring standpoint. I used to hire people for content creation and let me give you my general insight.

STAY FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM ODESK. There are a few golden gems on there and great content writers but you better be prepared to pay a $30-100/hourly price (or per article). The rest of ODesk however is filled with foreigners and "agents" who act as Native English writers for the foreigners. You'll be presented with some of the most bullcrap garbage content you've ever seen after days past your deadline.

In my profile, I have probably hired 100 people on Odesk to give them a shot and I can honestly say most of them turned out the exact same as the previous. They would never make deadlines, they would produce sub-par content, they would go MIA or offline for weeks on end, etc.

The biggest problem I have with people outsourcing is they expect ROCKSTAR AWESOME QUALITY content at some bogus $.50 or $1.00 per 100 word rate.

Fiverr

I honestly don't get why so many people are stuck on this site.. it's a cesspool of cheap writers who deliver average or crap content. Some people swear by writers on Fiverr but then they wonder why their content is never compelling or keeps people coming back

The best place to find a Freelancer or Outsourcer in my opinion isn't on the Forums, not on Elance, not on iWriter, not on ODesk or any other popular platform. It's through independent websites for professionals. The only draw to this is, that you'll have to pay a very hefty price.

[celente]

Elance and fiverr....

once you master these, and know what you need done, and learn how to explain your tasks like you are talking to a 5 year old...lol.... you can cut out 90% of your day to day boring routine tasks. :-)

[Sarevok]

I think elance is your best bet. The last dude I hired on Odesk totally blew me off (And I wasted $300 in fresh leads as a result) and the guy had a decent rating.

Elance it is.

[jutipum]

Recommended Odesk and fiverr

[Niranpr]

It's depend my your work.
If I want quality work and want to hire specialist I go to Odesk.com
(odesk is good for me because I love pay per hour )

If I want normal work like proof reading, video recording, etc I using Fiverr
(Almost $5 per job)

[Elle Davies]

Try:
Elance
Guru
Micro job sites (Fiverr, Fourerr etc)

If you've had bad experiences on oDesk, make sure you go for a contractor that has good references or positive ratings so that you know what you're getting.

Maybe even check out the WSO section and see if anyone there is offering a service that you could use?

[gcbmark20]

Hi Glen you can try these:

traffic generation:
ContentDivas.com

marketing tasks:
123employee.com

very affordable service:
HireMyMom.com

huge list of freelancers:
PeoplePerHour.com

for those on a budget:
freelancer.com
vWorker.com

Get credits for future projects:
Guru.com

Hope these help you out and all the best my friend!!!

[Niranpr]

Before I hire someone to work for me.
I will see rating, past works, and interview them to proof they reach my expectation.

Ask them good question in work field.
Such as what is link wheel?
Tell me about how to optimize good content for link building?

[WeavingThoughts]

Full service IM firms may become too expensive to use.

Have a guy/team for everything like copy, content, link building, seo etc. And then have a team of VAs to manage them. Will get better results and may even turn out to be a bit cheaper.

[TheProsperousMarketer]

I have had mixed results with ODESK - dont go for the cheapest option is my advice, as a minimum I don't hire people with an hourly rate of less than $10..you get what you pay for!

[Travis Cody]

Originally Posted by watsonovedades

Odesk all the way

Yup... I second to that... But I always post my job as fixed price... it's better than the hourly contract..

[Jacob Sterbenk]

I've had positive experience with oDesk so far ... 3/4 were hourly contracts, I've spent over $2,000 so far. I've soon discovered that people simply don't work well for $1/hour, so now I'm paying at least $3/ hour (usually around $4).

[eglassman88]

Originally Posted by Corey Geer

I'll vouch for this one. My question is kind of in reverse such as how to find the best clients because unlike Edward who responds right away and is always available when he needs his content done, the majority of clients are never anywhere to be find.

Most clients take days or weeks to respond (some never respond at all). Or they turn into "Joint Venture" people who instead of hiring you want to work with you since they run out of money.

Now, I've been your side of the fence as well from a hiring standpoint. I used to hire people for content creation and let me give you my general insight.

STAY FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM ODESK. There are a few golden gems on there and great content writers but you better be prepared to pay a $30-100/hourly price (or per article). The rest of ODesk however is filled with foreigners and "agents" who act as Native English writers for the foreigners. You'll be presented with some of the most bullcrap garbage content you've ever seen after days past your deadline.

In my profile, I have probably hired 100 people on Odesk to give them a shot and I can honestly say most of them turned out the exact same as the previous. They would never make deadlines, they would produce sub-par content, they would go MIA or offline for weeks on end, etc.

The biggest problem I have with people outsourcing is they expect ROCKSTAR AWESOME QUALITY content at some bogus $.50 or $1.00 per 100 word rate.

Fiverr

I honestly don't get why so many people are stuck on this site.. it's a cesspool of cheap writers who deliver average or crap content. Some people swear by writers on Fiverr but then they wonder why their content is never compelling or keeps people coming back

The best place to find a Freelancer or Outsourcer in my opinion isn't on the Forums, not on Elance, not on iWriter, not on ODesk or any other popular platform. It's through independent websites for professionals. The only draw to this is, that you'll have to pay a very hefty price.

Thanks for the kind words, Corey! You're one of the BEST freelancers I've found on forums. Prime example.