I have Questions about article marketing

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I have 10 articles already written and I have bought automatic article submitter from a fellow warrior and spun the articles. I wanted to submit to as many article sites(100-200 sites if i find enough) as I can as long as I can get my articles in the right categories even low ranking 0PR sites.(What do I have to lose?)

I do not have a blog and do not think a blog would be a good idea for the site nor do I want to maintain a blog. I will be linking directly to my landing page at www.BartenderAudio.com from the resource box for every article post I do.


1.My question is will this be the best method of doing article marketing?
2.Over how many days should I spread posting of the 10 spun articles to the hundreds of sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Originally Posted by johnfrem View Post

    I have 10 articles already written and I have bought automatic article submitter from a fellow warrior and spun the articles. I wanted to submit to as many article sites(100-200 sites if i find enough) as I can as long as I can get my articles in the right categories even low ranking 0PR sites.(What do I have to lose?)

    I do not have a blog and do not think a blog would be a good idea for the site nor do I want to maintain a blog. I will be linking directly to my landing page at www.BartenderAudio.com from the resource box for every article post I do.


    1.My question is will this be the best method of doing article marketing?
    2.Over how many days should I spread posting of the 10 spun articles to the hundreds of sites?

    Quite honestly, in my opinion, you're wasting your time with this strategy,
    but please take that for what it is...my opinion.

    A decent article directory, like Ezine Articles, can't be submitted to via
    auto submission, at least not a far as I know. Plus, they have to approve
    your article and they don't approve spun articles, again, as far as I know.

    Plus, if they see your articles on other sites first, they probably won't
    allow them.

    The other directories, the ones who will take your articles, IMO, aren't
    worth the time of day to spit on.

    Plus, spinners, for the most part, suck. Your articles won't be very good,
    few people, if any, will read them, and ultimately, nobody will go to your
    resource box and site.

    Backlinks? Doubt you'll get much out of that either.

    In short...this strategy is doomed to failure.

    But again, it's just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    If you have spun your articles properly and they intelligent, informative and readable, there is no reason why you can't submit to as many places as you want - it just depends on how highly you value your time.

    Why stop with article directories - you can use them on squidoo lenses, hub pages, wetpaint, blogger etc....

    Like Steve said you want to submit one of them to Ezinearticles first and wait for it to get approved. Make sure you proof read the articles before posting to Ezinearticles or making a Squidoo lens or hub page etc.. Even the most carefully spun articles can have an off sentence that makes it sound funny.

    You might find your time is better rewarded by submitting the articles to just a few top sites rather than 200 of them - I don't think most of the article directories carry much clout and I know they don't send me a lot of traffic. That being said, I do mass submit articles every so often (I use isnare though since I can't be bothered to spend time on doing that myself).

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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    I understand the lure of this strategy: little work, very fast backlink accumulation. But it's all useless if you haven't done the keyword research first. You can do what you're suggesting, get a bunch of backlinks, and rank pretty well in the search engines. Sure. But what if all you rank for is search terms no one ever uses (or very few use)? Pointless.

    Much better to take the time to build a solid keyword list for terms in your niche first, then worry about writing/spinning/submitting/backlinks. There are profitable online businesses built on good rankings for just a handful of top keywords. And there are exponentially more failures built willy-nilly on nothing but what came off the top of the owner's head. Don't be the latter.

    For what it's worth.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author johnfrem
    Thanks for the advice, I will write good articles myself and proof read them all. And only submit 1 original good article per high ranking site. Then write more good articles and rinse and repeat.


    The spun articles.... well I will also proof read and submit to lower ranking sites only to get backlinks for SEO.

    Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

    Much better to take the time to build a solid keyword list for terms in your niche first, then worry about writing/spinning/submitting/backlinks. There are profitable online businesses built on good rankings for just a handful of top keywords.......
    zeus66 Thank you, I have also thought about this and have done keyword research for the bartending niche. I have also written the article to focus on these keywords as well. I think this is good advice from you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Damz
    Submit your articles into the top 3-5 article directories only.
    I mean;
    EZA.com
    Buzzle.com
    searchwarp.com
    Ideamarketers.com
    Isnare.com

    Isnare will publish your article to 100s of average directories and sites.This is great to het back links to the EZA.com articles[for SEO] and your own site/ landing page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      You have a product targeted to a younger audience, working in an industry that very few of them take seriously, so I think you are cracking a tough nut here, but I admire and respect your content.

      In regards to your target audience and current strategy, I would skip the article spinning altogether - young people don't like to read -and turn your spun content into Video Articles to post on youtube.

      You can use simple powerpoint displays with pictures, and I would throw in a little humor as well. Your audience is much more hyped about youtube than ezines.

      I like your niche and the content on your sales page is genuine enough, but I find the black bg, purple and small text rather hard to read, but I am over 40 too - just keep a close watch on your conversions and I would strongly suggest you do a split test with a very brief capture page containing a short video for signing up to the mixing recipes.
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  • Profile picture of the author coolman009
    Ya i have a question regarding the article writing...What has to be the format in writing and what sort speech do we all have to use in case of article writing....I want to write for some blogs so that i ca be paid form those blogs!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author affilcrazy
      Hi John,

      Having looked through your site and your initial comments, i have to agree with a few of the guys above.

      Firstly, i looked at your site as a potential customer and also with some fondness and interest (i worked as a barman for about 5 years) and i have to agree with Marty S and say that the majority of your customers may not take the time or be interested in reading articles in order to get to your main page.

      Secondly as Steven and Zeus66 have mentioned, the strategy of submitting to 1000s of article directories may prove pointless as much will depend on your keyword research - Are they "buying" keywords? Are they keywords that your potential customers are actually searching for? Will people actually read all the articles and how successful will the surge of baclinks really be?

      Your approach may be better served in submitting articles to EZA and waiting for them to be published 1st. Then just submit to the top few article directories, Go-Articles, SearchWarp, Buzzle, Isnare and also your longer articles to Squidoo and Hubpages all linking to your main site (and EZA's if you wish).

      However i think for me personally, a few years ago when i did work as a barman visual and audio stuff would have worked much better. (Curiosity would have made me purchase your product anyway).

      If you have a blog - Wordpress, Blogger or Typepad you can get a free service from Odiogo that immediately converts your blog posts to podcasts.

      Also i note you give away 10 free drinks recipes to your subscribers. How about turning those into video? You recording yourself doing a "Tom Cruise", spinning a few bottles and shakers about and talking people through the recipes and the word associations (Think Humour!).

      Just My Humble Opinion!

      Good Luck

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  • Profile picture of the author AdamWB
    Here's my strategy. I currently make 5 figure+ month income straight from article marketing (adsense and affiliates). So I'm pretty sure what I'm doing works.

    Submit to Associated Content (basically makes your article marketing outsourcing free).
    Once you get an offer from AC, submit the article to Ezinearticles.
    Once approved at Ezine, accept your AC offer.
    Have the article rewritten a couple times (50cents to $1 on mturk), and submit it to Buzzle, squidoo, hub, and blogger with links pointing back to your site.

    If you want to save some money, submit to Buzzle before Ezinearticles, as ezine will accept articles published at buzzle, but not the other way around (just make sure your pen name is the same). I like to twist the buzzle submission up a bit though with a slight varied keyword targeted, as buzzle can get some pretty high rankings in the SE's.

    This last step is optional and can be done in 2 different ways:

    1) Submit the article to your top 10-50 article directories using APR or your fav submitter. This is what I've been doing for awhile, the next step is at your own discretion and I'm still testing its effectiveness vs this step.

    2) Spin the article using power article rewriter, submit the unique versions to your fav article directories. Some submitters, such as articlesubmitauto.com will do this for you automatically. If you do this option, you can just use one of the spinned versions for buzzle and skip the buzzle step above. Use one of the spinned versions and put it on your blog/squidoo lens pointing back to your website.

    Take it for what it's worth, but I've tried everything and everything, and have been doing this for years. This is the best method, and will squeeze 110% out of your article marketing efforts. I really should sell this instead of giving it away, but yea I'm feeling generous today =)

    Steven is right about Ezinearticles - although if you use my method, put google analytics on your site, you'll realize that even buzzle can rival the direct referrals of Ezinearticles. The other 10-50 directories combined will give you a net effectiveness of 1 submission to ezine (for direct referrals), but with automatic submitters out there, it's not that hard to load an article up and blast it to the top 50 or so sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      Originally Posted by AdamWB View Post

      Here's my strategy.
      Thank you Adam. Your strategy sounds interesting, but I am not sure how you monetize, esp with the Associated Content. Care to elaborate?
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      • Profile picture of the author AdamWB
        Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

        Thank you Adam. Your strategy sounds interesting, but I am not sure how you monetize, esp with the Associated Content. Care to elaborate?
        Eh, I just typed out a long drawn out explanation, but I edited it because I don't want my method to get saturated.

        But basically AC pays for your content. Go make an account with them, it doesn't take long to figure out the incredible leverage you can create with AC.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Hey John, listen--you've got some great ideas about the article thingie from others above. Just a couple comments. Your site is incredible. Yeah, the dark background is a little difficult, but I'm in the over 40 group too--a lot of stuff is hard for me to read.

    But the concept of your site is great! I would, however, consider throwing in some video stuff as well. The audio instruction on mixing drinks is okay, but some video instruction might supercharge the sales.

    I am picturing a young guy or gal going into a bar and inquiring about a job. Okay, so they know how to mix a drink, but I'm thinking the owner might ask some other questions. At what point do you cut someone off because they've had too much to drink? How do you tactfully ask someone to leave without causing a scene. At what point would you call 911 if an altercation is imminent? What if someone is just being a loud-mouthed ******* insulting others?

    I have friends in the business and those kinds of things might make or break an interview. Some advice along those lines might be very useful to someone looking for a job in the industry.

    And--I know that tips are a huge part of earnings for bartenders. Some advice on "working" customers for tips might create a selling point too. If the bartender only serves drinks their tip ratio will be much less than for someone who knows how to "work" customers. There is a lot of interpersonal stuff good bartenders do to establish and please a clientele.

    I can't tell you the number of times I've been in a bar and the server has 2-3 drinks in hand with her hand over the top and her fingers down inside the interior of the glass. I mean, I have visions of her at home picking at her toenails and not washing her hands before coming to the job . . . there is the whole cleanliness issue of course and health regulations.

    You're obviously the pro at this bud, but I'm just trying to give you some gut thoughts on the subject. If you've got your own club, or if the owner would let you come in and shoot some quick videos demonstrating some tricks of the trade it might catapult your sales.

    Good luck and g-r-r-r-reat site fella!
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    I agree with everyone, except I'll take it one step further and say 1. post the article to your own site in a wordpress blog on your domain with tons of pings, and then a few days later once your version is in Google results, 2. just submit to EZA.

    Your mass submissions are way better for plain old fashioned directories. I get way, way more referral traffic from them.

    Nice site by the way.
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