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Hi Troops

This is a great one. Recently, all the kids in my 6yr old daughter's school was asked to write a poem. The school submitted them to a body called "Young Writer Association"...or something like that.

Anyway, a few weeks later, I get this letter though the post saying that my daughter's poem has been selected to be included in a book about poetry. The letter came with this wondeful certificate, and explained why the poem was chosen, how great it was etc..

Anyway, the letter came with an order form giving us the...ahem...opportunity to buy the book for £18 including postage. Oh, and if you buy 2 copies, you get a 3rd one free.

Wow, I wish I had thought of this, talk about marketing at its best!

Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      I remember that trick from my high school days. When I was a junior and senior, my name was somehow floated into some "national honor" or "national excellence" thing and my picture and name were put into a book saying how smart I was. We got a notice in the mail saying we could buy the book for $25 or $35. My parents bought it, of course!

      It occurred to me a year or two later, after I'd been in the real world for a bit, that this was a great marketing scam...err...scheme.

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      Haha, I was listed in one of those "honor" directories back when I was in high school many moons ago...the "Who's Who among American High School Students" or something like that.

      Of course I wondered why I had to buy a copy of something I was being honored in, seeing I was a "Who" among "Who's." :rolleyes:.

      I've learned a lot since then...
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      • Profile picture of the author Mindstorms
        Originally Posted by 1byte View Post

        Haha, I was listed in one of those "honor" directories back when I was in high school many moons ago...the "Who's Who among American High School Students" or something like that.

        Of course I wondered why I had to buy a copy of something I was being honored in, seeing I was a "Who" among "Who's." :rolleyes:.

        I've learned a lot since then...
        Yep, this brought back memories... I still have a copy in my garage somewhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Phil,

      talk about marketing at its best!
      It looks like marketing at it's worst to me.

      Do you believe that most people have great hidden talent, which, if it can be accessed and harnessed could be put to good use and make the world a better place?

      Or do you believe that most people are generally useless?

      The whole concept is designed around the singular parental pride aspect and the reality is that some of the children 'selected' could be led to believe that they have writing talent, when in fact they might instead benefit from being told to study and practice more and try harder.

      One of the reasons why we now live in a world where boys are given role models such as the talentless dunce David Beckham (he's not even a good example of a talented all-round footballer!), girls admire Katie Price because of her 'business acumen' and Saturday evening TV is littered with karaoke 'talent shows' which are in fact glorified freak shows where the contestants are duped into believing that they are talented purely so that they can be laughed at and derided, is because anything that turns a profit - no matter if it is deceptive, unethical, unoriginal, or tacky - is regularly held up as an 'awesome business model' or 'marketing at it's best' - purely because it's sneaky.

      But is it actually good marketing? And if it's not, how much more difficult is good marketing? 'Awesome marketing' should produce delighted customers as well as a good profit, without any risk of buyer's remorse.

      The key is in the word 'trick' as used by one of the commenters in a reply here -

      I remember that trick from my high school days.
      Sorry to disagree strongly, but that's my opinion. How much more difficult would it be for them to actually find the very best poems from the children and create a fantastic book which could lead to a future writing career for the children - a book that the children and the parents can be genuinely proud of?

      I imagine they shove anything legible in there purely to make as many books as possible. If any of the parents bothered to read any of the poems written by anyone other than their own children, it probably won't take them long to realise they've been had/duped/ripped off and that the certificate is a joke.

      Surely that's not good marketing, surely that's just deception based on a primal urge to be proud of your offspring?

      We see the same concept all around us - absolutely everything is hyped up to the max and absolutely anything that turns a profit is held up as 'awesome marketing', regardless of whether it's actually a work of genius, or a Bernie Madoff spin-off.

      It's no wonder that we sometimes come across seemingly unemployable youth who appear to think that they deserve the earth for nothing, when right from childhood we're (the schools themselves!) allowing unscrupulous marketers to raise their expectations via an 'everyone's a winner' scam disguised as a talent contest.
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      • Profile picture of the author rodtyler
        When I was a kid, I fancied myself a singer/songwriter. I would see ads in magazines to submit your lyrics for evaluation. Of course I did and promptly got a response that my lyrics qualified. For a fee, they would put my words to music, professionally record it, release it, make me a star, blah, blah...

        Being a kid, I didn't have any money, so I asked my parents. I don't need to tell you what they said. I was crushed.

        Looking back now, I realize that those lyrics were about as lame as you could get. It was nothing but a scam. I guess my parents weren't as stupid as I thought they were.
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      • Profile picture of the author Strasburgo
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi Phil,
        Sorry to disagree strongly, but that's my opinion. How much more difficult would it be for them to actually find the very best poems from the children and create a fantastic book which could lead to a future writing career for the children - a book that the children and the parents can be genuinely proud of?
        Sounds like the beginning of a business plan.

        How would you market this book of child poetry that's actually good?

        Strasburgo
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        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
          Hi Strasburgo,

          Originally Posted by Strasburgo View Post

          Sounds like the beginning of a business plan.

          How would you market this book of child poetry that's actually good?
          Good question, I guess I would start by talking to local media such as the local newpaper and local evening TV news, dropping the name of the school into things to help to open the door, seeing if they would run a feature on it highlighting the best of the work. I'd mention a possible approach along the lines of 'not all youngsters are just xbox gaming champions, there's a hotbed of talent in the area destined for big things' or something along those lines.

          I'd consider how many different groups of people have a vested interest in looking good from it and try and get them involved - EG - the headmaster of the school, or the language teacher might want to go on evening news to boost their profile and take some of the credit for the production of the talented youngsters. Get those types of people involved, then they might spread the word further off their own back for their own reasons.
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      • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi Phil,

        It looks like marketing at it's worst to me.

        Do you believe that most people have great hidden talent, which, if it can be accessed and harnessed could be put to good use and make the world a better place?

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        Sorry, to clarify somewhat, when I said "Marketing at its best", I mean from the point of 'how to sell', opposed to the ethics behind it. There's no denying that this kind of stuff sells by the thousands.

        As it happens, I will most likely buy the book myself, not because I'm suckered into thinking my daughter has this amazing writing talent, but because she was so pleased about it, and it a confidence booster. When she enetered she said "what's the point, I'll never win". I tried to encourage her as much as I could, but nothing beat being able to tell her that she had been...ahem...chosen for inclusion.

        Cheers
        Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author rendell
    The same goes around in the corporate world.

    Some SME association approach you to say you won some top 500 SME awards.
    The criteria to receive the prize is to booked a table ($5k-10k) or 2 seats at $500 each for the prize presentation ceremony.

    And these awards keep sprouting like mushrooms....
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    Ever notice that people who spend money on WSO, memberships and courses, are always complaining about being broke and not making any money ?

    They should have bought ASSETS instead.

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    Recognition is a powerful thing. Great post!
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