How To Reduce Aweber Cost With These Strategies

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Hi Warriors,

It was only recently I discovered 2 strategies, that can reduce your aweber cost more than 20%. As I was unaware of it for a long time, I firmly believe that it will help some of my fellow warriors.

1. Delete All Unsubscribers From Your List

As you know, your unsubscribers will accumulate in proportion with your list growth, if you don't delete them periodically. Because unsubscribed addresses count toward your total number of subscribers, thus the cost of your Aweber account.

Below link will take you to the enitre step by step inscructions to delete the unsubscribes from your list.

https://help.aweber.com/entries/2172...y-unsubscribes


2. Delete All Inactive Subscribers From Your List

Inactive subscribers means those who are not opening your messages for a long period of time. So why should you bother to keep them in your list and pay for them to Aweber. Click the below link to know how to do it, step by step.

https://help.aweber.com/entries/2178...s-from-my-list

Hope the above will help at least one person, is that you? let me know
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficBot
    I recently signed up for an aweber account but didn't know there would be additional costs with the service. Could you explain what these additional costs are or point me to a link that explains this?
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    • Profile picture of the author JackieGold
      TrafficBot - They are not really extra costs. It is just that as your number of subscribers goes above different threshholds, your monthly fee goes up as well. Here's the details: Affordable Email Marketing - Price Your AWeber Account
      Be sure to click the link "Pricing For Over 500 Subscribers"
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    • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
      Originally Posted by TrafficBot View Post

      I recently signed up for an aweber account but didn't know there would be additional costs with the service. Could you explain what these additional costs are or point me to a link that explains this?

      Alright. Let me explain. Imagine you have a list of 2550 subscribers in your list. For this you've to pay $49/month to Aweber. Your 2550 nos. may including the unsubscribes and inactive subscribers and If you delete the unsubscribes and inactive people from your list, i.e if you delete 50 of them, you can save $20. How? when you delete 50 of them (unsubscribes and inactives) your list size will come down to 2500, as per the current payment plan, upto 2500 people, you need to pay only $29. Hope you got the point
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      • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
        Originally Posted by onlinebizgiant View Post

        Alright. Let me explain. Imagine you have a list of 2550 subscribers in your list. For this you've to pay $49/month to Aweber. Your 2550 nos. may including the unsubscribes and inactive subscribers and If you delete the unsubscribes and inactive people from your list, i.e if you delete 50 of them, you can save $20. How? when you delete 50 of them (unsubscribes and inactives) your list size will come down to 2500, as per the current payment plan, upto 2500 people, you need to pay only $29. Hope you got the point
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  • Profile picture of the author patadeperro
    Very good advice, It took me more than a couple of years to learn the first point you explain, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author obin94
    Great advice about deleting the unsubscribes!
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  • Profile picture of the author kencalhn
    in my aweber account i also routinely delete All optins from countries of people that typically dont buy and/or are pirates, such as all leads from India, China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Russia, East europe, Nigeria. You can click reports and filter by country.

    (anyone know how to do segment by country/deletes for icontact, by any chance?)
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    It's a golden idea to delete unsubscribers. Get them the hell out lol.

    Another tip: This may seem a tad controversial, but once in a while I'll advertise my opt-out link and remind people to leave my list. (Yeah, reverse psychology mixed with rugged aggression).

    Also, I have an extra unsubscribe link at the bottom of every mail I send out; I don't want to give the complainers any leverage.
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    • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      It's a golden idea to delete unsubscribers. Get them the hell out lol.

      Another tip: This may seem a tad controversial, but once in a while I'll advertise my opt-out link and remind people to leave my list. (Yeah, reverse psychology mixed with rugged aggression).

      Also, I have an extra unsubscribe link at the bottom of every mail I send out; I don't want to give the complainers any leverage.
      Yes, yes.. that's also a good idea. Sometimes I provide the unsubscribe link at the beginning of my message, like this

      "(**IMPT NOTE** If you no longer want to receive emails
      from me, feel free to unsubscribe by CLICKING HERE. Hitting
      SPAM won't work. Thanks )"

      For those who don't know how to provide additional unsubscribe link, here is the link to see how it can be done

      https://help.aweber.com/entries/2174...subscribe-link
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  • Profile picture of the author taffie
    Yeah great post, I have always known of deleting unsubscribers as that is the way I was coached, but didn't know about how to search for inactive users.

    Aweber is such a robust platform that needs some attention, it's got some features most people do not know about, unfortunately because we are human, we want things on a platter, or are used to have things done for us, or shown us by video, we are lazy to go beyond what we would have been taught thus you find many stopping at the creation of the email form and other very basic stuff.

    You don't want to be lazy to learn and research in this game!
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    • Profile picture of the author taffie
      Forgot to mention this, it's very tricky as well when it comes to listbuilding as there are other factors to consider. It's facts like, should I be using double opt-in only and if you would have been doing this for a while you would know it can cost you money particularly when using paid advertising.

      The other thing is, you are not sure whether you are doing enough to convert these leads and you would hope one day they may convert.

      What seems to happen is we tend to focus on traffic and list building and forget about working on converting. One really needs to be clear what they want to do with the list, and to understand that because you got a list, then conversions are going to be automatic.

      So, before you go and delete those inactives, see that you have done all you can to get them to open your emails.

      See, it's like having a shop on the high street, many people may pass yours up, some will enter and not buy and some will. If you don't improve your display and shop arrangement, you may suffer a loss whereas if you try and improve things, you would find what works.

      So it's within your power to get these people to notice you, after all, they signed up for some reason, they where either curious or wanted what you got, either way, it's your job to turn them into customers, that's where the real work is!

      That's just my humble opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
        Originally Posted by taffie View Post

        Forgot to mention this, it's very tricky as well when it comes to listbuilding as there are other factors to consider. It's facts like, should I be using double opt-in only and if you would have been doing this for a while you would know it can cost you money particularly when using paid advertising.

        The other thing is, you are not sure whether you are doing enough to convert these leads and you would hope one day they may convert.

        What seems to happen is we tend to focus on traffic and list building and forget about working on converting. One really needs to be clear what they want to do with the list, and to understand that because you got a list, then conversions are going to be automatic.

        So, before you go and delete those inactives, see that you have done all you can to get them to open your emails.

        See, it's like having a shop on the high street, many people may pass yours up, some will enter and not buy and some will. If you don't improve your display and shop arrangement, you may suffer a loss whereas if you try and improve things, you would find what works.

        So it's within your power to get these people to notice you, after all, they signed up for some reason, they where either curious or wanted what you got, either way, it's your job to turn them into customers, that's where the real work is!

        That's just my humble opinion.
        I really agree with you on some points, but if someone optin to your list only to get something free, using fake email addresses or/ and not opening your messages for long time or unsubscribed from your list for any reason, why we should keep them, especially when this affect our overall autoresponder cost.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lou Murphy
    Cheers, this is a really useful thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author sabluuk
    Solid, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    Originally Posted by onlinebizgiant View Post

    2. Delete All Inactive Subscribers From Your List

    Inactive subscribers means those who are not opening your messages for a long period of time. So why should you bother to keep them in your list and pay for them to Aweber. Click the below link to know how to do it, step by step.

    [COLOR=black]https://help.aweber.com/entries/2178...s-from-my-list
    This is very BAD advice.

    (In fact, I've very surprised that AWeber would allow such
    ill-informed advice to be posted on their site).

    If you delete subscribers based upon the who supposedly
    opened (or didn't open) your e-mails, you're making a MAJOR
    mistake.

    Why?

    Because the open rate metric for AWeber (and elsewhere)
    is not capable of accurately determining everyone who has
    opened (or hasn't opened) your e-mails.

    They rely upon the subscriber using an e-mail client that
    loads the tracking image that triggers open rate metrics.

    Many of the popular e-mail clients like GMail, Outlook, etc
    do not allow these tracking images to be loaded by default.

    For example, I view most of my e-mails within the Preview
    Pane of Outlook and the tracking image doesn't get loaded
    at all. So, even though I read the e-mails, I don't appear on
    the open rate metrics within AWeber.

    If you delete subscribers based upon the open rate metric
    you'll be certain to delete a siginificant portion of your list
    who ARE actually reading your e-mails.

    I prefer to use the more reliable link clicking metrics to
    determine the activity level of subscribers.

    Dedicated to mutual success,

    Shaun
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    • Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      Because the open rate metric for AWeber (and elsewhere) is not capable of accurately determining everyone who has
      opened (or hasn't opened) your e-mails.

      They rely upon the subscriber using an e-mail client that loads the tracking image that triggers open rate metrics.

      Many of the popular e-mail clients like GMail, Outlook, etc do not allow these tracking images to be loaded by default.
      I agree with this post. Aweber's tracking system is not entirely accurate. I see consistent divergences between Aweber's tracking and my own custom tracking system (which I add to every link I toss into my Aweber mail outs) when it comes to tracking clicks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joshster
      Great advice....I was going to mention this but you did the job just fine


      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      This is very BAD advice.

      (In fact, I've very surprised that AWeber would allow such
      ill-informed advice to be posted on their site).

      If you delete subscribers based upon the who supposedly
      opened (or didn't open) your e-mails, you're making a MAJOR
      mistake.

      Why?

      Because the open rate metric for AWeber (and elsewhere)
      is not capable of accurately determining everyone who has
      opened (or hasn't opened) your e-mails.

      They rely upon the subscriber using an e-mail client that
      loads the tracking image that triggers open rate metrics.

      Many of the popular e-mail clients like GMail, Outlook, etc
      do not allow these tracking images to be loaded by default.

      For example, I view most of my e-mails within the Preview
      Pane of Outlook and the tracking image doesn't get loaded
      at all. So, even though I read the e-mails, I don't appear on
      the open rate metrics within AWeber.

      If you delete subscribers based upon the open rate metric
      you'll be certain to delete a siginificant portion of your list
      who ARE actually reading your e-mails.

      I prefer to use the more reliable link clicking metrics to
      determine the activity level of subscribers.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
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    • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      This is very BAD advice.

      (In fact, I've very surprised that AWeber would allow such
      ill-informed advice to be posted on their site).

      If you delete subscribers based upon the who supposedly
      opened (or didn't open) your e-mails, you're making a MAJOR
      mistake.

      Why?

      Because the open rate metric for AWeber (and elsewhere)
      is not capable of accurately determining everyone who has
      opened (or hasn't opened) your e-mails.

      They rely upon the subscriber using an e-mail client that
      loads the tracking image that triggers open rate metrics.

      Many of the popular e-mail clients like GMail, Outlook, etc
      do not allow these tracking images to be loaded by default.

      For example, I view most of my e-mails within the Preview
      Pane of Outlook and the tracking image doesn't get loaded
      at all. So, even though I read the e-mails, I don't appear on
      the open rate metrics within AWeber.

      If you delete subscribers based upon the open rate metric
      you'll be certain to delete a siginificant portion of your list
      who ARE actually reading your e-mails.

      I prefer to use the more reliable link clicking metrics to
      determine the activity level of subscribers.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
      Very good info. But I don't think most of the people read their email in preview pane, may be a small percentage, like you. There are lots of people, will subscribe to your list only to get some freebies and simply ignore your messages or never open their email account at all.

      What I do is, I send a notification to my inactives that "your subscription period is ending and if you still want to be in my list, opt-in again or hit the reply button and say 'Yes'. Also I'll provide the "Unsubscribe" option at the beginning of my notification. And if they still remain inactive, I've no option but to remove them from my list.

      I hope, you have noted the first point " Delete the Unsubscribes", is that a GOOD advice
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      • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
        Originally Posted by onlinebizgiant View Post

        I don't think most of the people read their email in preview pane, may be a small percentage, like you.
        This isn't just about the open rate metric not being
        tracked for subscribers who view their e-mails in the
        preview pane.

        Most e-mail clients are set-up to BLOCK the loading of
        images in e-mails by default - and that includes the
        open rate tracking image.

        So, this includes popular e-mail clients like GMail, Yahoo,
        Hotmail, Outlook, etc.

        FACT: Unless the subscriber pro-actively chooses to load
        images, the open rate tracking will NOT work.

        That's why Point #1 is BAD, BAD advice.

        If you use that method, you're GUARANTEED to delete
        many subscribers from your list who actually are reading
        your messages.

        Do you really want to do that?
        Originally Posted by onlinebizgiant View Post

        I hope, you have noted the first point " Delete the Unsubscribes", is that a GOOD advice
        That depends upon the autoresponder you're using.

        I mainly use my own self-hosted autoresponder and I
        want to retain data on all of those people who have
        subscribed or unsubscribed from my lists so that I
        have a full audit trail.

        That way, if I receive spam complaints I can provide
        proof of exactly where and when the subscriber joined
        and unsubscribed from my list.

        So, by retaining the data on the unsubscribers, I'm
        able to defend the reputation and deliverability of
        my e-mail server.

        However, if you're using AWeber and your running costs
        are based upon your total subscriber count, then deleting
        the unsubscribers is probably a good idea when you're
        about to go into a higher pricing threshold.

        Dedicated to mutual success,

        Shaun
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        • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
          Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

          This isn't just about the open rate metric not being
          tracked for subscribers who view their e-mails in the
          preview pane.

          Most e-mail clients are set-up to BLOCK the loading of
          images in e-mails by default - and that includes the
          open rate tracking image.

          So, this includes popular e-mail clients like GMail, Yahoo,
          Hotmail, Outlook, etc.

          FACT: Unless the subscriber pro-actively chooses to load
          images, the open rate tracking will NOT work.

          That's why Point #1 is BAD, BAD advice.

          If you use that method, you're GUARANTEED to delete
          many subscribers from your list who actually are reading
          your messages.

          Do you really want to do that?

          That depends upon the autoresponder you're using.

          I mainly use my own self-hosted autoresponder and I
          want to retain data on all of those people who have
          subscribed or unsubscribed from my lists so that I
          have a full audit trail.

          That way, if I receive spam complaints I can provide
          proof of exactly where and when the subscriber joined
          and unsubscribed from my list.

          So, by retaining the data on the unsubscribers, I'm
          able to defend the reputation and deliverability of
          my e-mail server.

          Dedicated to mutual success,

          Shaun
          Alright. Points are very clear. As a token of my appreciatiion, I just bought your product from your signature line yes man, seriously.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ledux
      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      This is very BAD advice.

      (In fact, I've very surprised that AWeber would allow such
      ill-informed advice to be posted on their site).

      If you delete subscribers based upon the who supposedly
      opened (or didn't open) your e-mails, you're making a MAJOR
      mistake.

      Why?

      Because the open rate metric for AWeber (and elsewhere)
      is not capable of accurately determining everyone who has
      opened (or hasn't opened) your e-mails.

      They rely upon the subscriber using an e-mail client that
      loads the tracking image that triggers open rate metrics.

      Many of the popular e-mail clients like GMail, Outlook, etc
      do not allow these tracking images to be loaded by default.

      For example, I view most of my e-mails within the Preview
      Pane of Outlook and the tracking image doesn't get loaded
      at all. So, even though I read the e-mails, I don't appear on
      the open rate metrics within AWeber.

      If you delete subscribers based upon the open rate metric
      you'll be certain to delete a siginificant portion of your list
      who ARE actually reading your e-mails.

      I prefer to use the more reliable link clicking metrics to
      determine the activity level of subscribers.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
      Yes, by doing this you can actually delete people from your list that are reading your emails, BUT you wont delete people that have clicked on your links, because Aweber tracks every click as an open.

      And if you choose to delete people who haven't opened an email for 3 months that means they haven't even clicked any links of yours and someone like that isn't a valuable subscriber even, if he/she is reading your emails.

      So, I think this option isn't really harmful for your list.
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  • Profile picture of the author dengkane
    Thanks for sharing, these are great tips. Aweber's charge is increasing by subscribers volume.

    But we should be careful when deleting inactive subscribers, and can think about how to make them active again before deleting.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I know for a fact that many people who subscribe to a newsletter will never open the emails from the sender and buy.

    That is why you always have to bring in new fresh subscribers all the time.

    One problem I find with that is what would happen if some people will buy from you in a year from today and you deleted them?

    I think that it is OK to delete old subscribers while getting new ones and making the sale.

    The KEY is to have new people come into your funnel. If they don't buy from you within 5-10 emails, delete them.

    So as you can see, I have some mixed emotions about this.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      To make list management simpler, consider deleting all non-responsive subscribers on a regular basis. For example, I have found through testing that 90% of my sales are made within the first 60 days. Trying to squeeze an extra 10% in sales is not worth the overhead, and would eventually make my lists unmanageably huge. What I do is a monthly culling of subscribers who have not made a purchase within any 60-day cycle.
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      • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        To make list management simpler, consider deleting all non-responsive subscribers on a regular basis. For example, I have found through testing that 90% of my sales are made within the first 60 days. Trying to squeeze an extra 10% in sales is not worth the overhead, and would eventually make my lists unmanageably huge. What I do is a monthly culling of subscribers who have not made a purchase within any 60-day cycle.
        Thanks buddy for sharing your views, I totally agree with you.
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        • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
          Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

          It's a golden idea to delete unsubscribers. Get them the hell out lol.

          Another tip: This may seem a tad controversial, but once in a while I'll advertise my opt-out link and remind people to leave my list. (Yeah, reverse psychology mixed with rugged aggression).

          Also, I have an extra unsubscribe link at the bottom of every mail I send out; I don't want to give the complainers any leverage.
          Great advice. If anyone doesn't want the emails, they're very welcome to unsubscribe and should be encouraged to do so.

          Originally Posted by onlinebizgiant View Post

          Yes, yes.. that's also a good idea. Sometimes I provide the unsubscribe link at the beginning of my message, like this

          "(**IMPT NOTE** If you no longer want to receive emails
          from me, feel free to unsubscribe by CLICKING HERE. Hitting
          SPAM won't work. Thanks )"

          For those who don't know how to provide additional unsubscribe link, here is the link to see how it can be done

          https://help.aweber.com/entries/2174...subscribe-link
          Thanks for the tip and the resource.

          Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

          I know for a fact that many people who subscribe to a newsletter will never open the emails from the sender and buy.

          That is why you always have to bring in new fresh subscribers all the time.

          One problem I find with that is what would happen if some people will buy from you in a year from today and you deleted them?

          I think that it is OK to delete old subscribers while getting new ones and making the sale.

          The KEY is to have new people come into your funnel. If they don't buy from you within 5-10 emails, delete them.

          So as you can see, I have some mixed emotions about this.
          Mixed indeed...

          Depending on how much those subscribers are costing you, you may want to keep them around. I've made sales to people who have been on my list for more than a year, so as long as they're happy to get my emails, I'll be just as happy to send those emails...


          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          To make list management simpler, consider deleting all non-responsive subscribers on a regular basis. For example, I have found through testing that 90% of my sales are made within the first 60 days. Trying to squeeze an extra 10% in sales is not worth the overhead, and would eventually make my lists unmanageably huge. What I do is a monthly culling of subscribers who have not made a purchase within any 60-day cycle.
          Sure, if you apply the 80/20 principle, or in your case the 90/10 principle, you do have a point here.

          However, consider how much overhead you really have with those extra subscribers. It depends on your autoresponder service.

          I'm using primarily 1shoppingcart and I still have several thousand subscribers to go until I reach the threshold where it'll cost more... ;-)

          And until I reach that point, I'll keep the extra subscribers around (though I WILL suggest occasionally that those who don't want the emails unsubscribe...)
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  • Profile picture of the author Meinkraft
    Thanks for the great advice, it's always nice to save some money here and there (and invest in other ventures!)
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  • Profile picture of the author kencalhn
    I'm thinking of testing out a for-pay email list as well, a modest $1 or whatever to let them get on my list, as a separate listbuilding activity, in addition to the regular list.

    this is to qualify/make sure those who optin at least have a credit card and will use it, eg paypal $1 for my (almost-free) report and get on my newsletter list. i'll still always have a free list, but segmenting by also having a list of folks who at least will pay $1 to be on the list, is something I'll test.

    and like I said I automatically delete all leads from malaysia, india, indonesia, other places who aren't good customers for me
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  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
    Not a fan of Aweber - they seem really cheesy!
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    I tend to remove them if they have not bought within a certain period.
    Aweber is very good, but it can become costly.
    All these little costs such as domain hosting, autoresponder etc can add up especially if you are not making much online.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    What plugin do you use for your autoresponder?
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  • Profile picture of the author KristofferIM
    Great little tips. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author chandan94
    Nice stuff to share.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hani D
    Thank you for this nice share, I think a lot of members here don't know about this info.

    Originally Posted by onlinebizgiant View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    It was only recently I discovered 2 strategies, that can reduce your aweber cost more than 20%. As I was unaware of it for a long time, I firmly believe that it will help some of my fellow warriors.

    1. Delete All Unsubscribers From Your List

    As you know, your unsubscribers will accumulate in proportion with your list growth, if you don't delete them periodically. Because unsubscribed addresses count toward your total number of subscribers, thus the cost of your Aweber account.

    Below link will take you to the enitre step by step inscructions to delete the unsubscribes from your list.

    https://help.aweber.com/entries/2172...y-unsubscribes


    2. Delete All Inactive Subscribers From Your List

    Inactive subscribers means those who are not opening your messages for a long period of time. So why should you bother to keep them in your list and pay for them to Aweber. Click the below link to know how to do it, step by step.

    https://help.aweber.com/entries/2178...s-from-my-list

    Hope the above will help at least one person, is that you? let me know
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I'm more interested in finding out why they unsubscribed, rather than just going through my list on a rampage flushing everything.

    Thanks for the great input too, Shaun.
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  • Profile picture of the author Manie Amari
    Originally Posted by onlinebizgiant View Post

    Hi Warriors,

    It was only recently I discovered 2 strategies, that can reduce your aweber cost more than 20%. As I was unaware of it for a long time, I firmly believe that it will help some of my fellow warriors.

    1. Delete All Unsubscribers From Your List

    As you know, your unsubscribers will accumulate in proportion with your list growth, if you don't delete them periodically. Because unsubscribed addresses count toward your total number of subscribers, thus the cost of your Aweber account.

    Below link will take you to the enitre step by step inscructions to delete the unsubscribes from your list.

    https://help.aweber.com/entries/2172...y-unsubscribes


    2. Delete All Inactive Subscribers From Your List

    Inactive subscribers means those who are not opening your messages for a long period of time. So why should you bother to keep them in your list and pay for them to Aweber. Click the below link to know how to do it, step by step.

    https://help.aweber.com/entries/2178...s-from-my-list

    Hope the above will help at least one person, is that you? let me know
    Great tips Sajan! I only learned tip number 1 a few months ago. Aweber don't make it easy for you to work it out; obviosuly because it keeps you paying the higher rate. Good job pointing this out!

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    • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
      Originally Posted by Manie Amari View Post

      Great tips Sajan! I only learned tip number 1 a few months ago. Aweber don't make it easy for you to work it out; obviosuly because it keeps you paying the higher rate. Good job pointing this out!

      Manie
      Hey Bud,

      Thank you very much for sharing your views and I'm very glad to know that many fellow warriors found my post beneficial.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Or... you could simply deactivate a list and wait until 30 days are up until Aweber automatically deletes the lists for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Maggs
    Guys,

    I know this is an old thread, but I thought I ought to add to it, because I have some information which may benefit you. I deleted all of my subscribers who appeared to not have opened any of my mail broadcasts...it made sense to me as why keep subscribers who never open your emails...right?

    So I went ahead and deleted all of the subscribers who had apparently never opened my mails, and then I had an awful eureka moment after I'd wiped out a significant portion of my list, Aweber was only counting opens based on whether a graphic was appearing in the email client and in so many cases people are just previewing your mail with images turned off (which doesn't count as an open)

    I thought I'd try contacting Aweber support after coming to this conclusion and was delighted when they told me they could restore all the subscribers I had deleted. So I'm back to where I was. It's encouraging to think that a few moments of insanity didn't lose me some potentially valuable subscribers.

    So if you made a similar mistake to me, just contact Aweber and they will sort things out for you. Hope this benefits some people.

    Cheers

    Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
      Originally Posted by Rob Maggs View Post

      Guys,

      I know this is an old thread, but I thought I ought to add to it, because I have some information which may benefit you. I deleted all of my subscribers who appeared to not have opened any of my mail broadcasts...it made sense to me as why keep subscribers who never open your emails...right?

      So I went ahead and deleted all of the subscribers who had apparently never opened my mails, and then I had an awful eureka moment after I'd wiped out a significant portion of my list, Aweber was only counting opens based on whether a graphic was appearing in the email client and in so many cases people are just previewing your mail with images turned off (which doesn't count as an open)

      I thought I'd try contacting Aweber support after coming to this conclusion and was delighted when they told me they could restore all the subscribers I had deleted. So I'm back to where I was. It's encouraging to think that a few moments of insanity didn't lose me some potentially valuable subscribers.

      So if you made a similar mistake to me, just contact Aweber and they will sort things out for you. Hope this benefits some people.

      Cheers

      Rob
      Thanks Rob, this is a problem I have also noticed recently. Each time I open an email on gmail, the images are turned off so the sender might just have it counted as a non opened email.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Thanks for the advice Shaun. I'll delete my unsubscribes but like you said you never really know whose opened your emails and who hasn't. Aweber's tracking is good but it isn't great. If I had a list that numbered into the hundreds of thousands deleting my unopens would definitely be out of the question. Not worth saving a few a dollars over.
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  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    I agree that unsubscribers should be deleted because they hold space. But I think the inactive ones can someday be active. So I haven't deleted them. Just my opinion.
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