How Do YOU Receive Money from your Purchases? No PayPal- Problem?

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Hi all,

Please take a second to give me a bit of advice as far as a PayPal alternative to sell products.

PROBLEM

- Earlier this year, someone purchased products from me using a stolen credit card, and I was banned from PayPal. I tried refuting it, but had gotten no where. Trust me, there is absolutely no way to get around this. (Also banned from Adsense, and PayPal's partner eBay, but that is another element of the story)

Now, I'm actually really getting into Internet Marketing, and know that PayPal is the main gateway to receive money from products.

My question to you:

- How can I receive PayPal dollars, without a PayPal account?
- Which Gateways (2CO, CB, etc) accept PayPal without a PayPal account, and pay you your earnings somewhere other than PayPal (transfer, check, etc?)
- ( I don't mind paying the fees for a gateway)


In other words, How can I maximize my earnings, and still receive money from PayPal users, without having a PayPal account, and get paid my earnings without having a PayPal account?



This is an issue that I have been suffering with for over 5 months now. I know that some individuals outside of the US aren't able to use PayPal, so how are they receiving PayPal dollars without an account?

Please take a second and donate a bit of advice if you know a solution!
#paypal #problem
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    ClickBank, 2Checkout, Plimus and Fastspring. These allow customers to use PayPal, without the vendor (or affiliates) needing to be paid by PayPal.

    Possibly others, too, but those are the well-known ones that come to mind.

    You certainly have a much wider market if you can enable customers to pay by PayPal, even without using it yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author peytonk
      Man I'm sorry to hear about your situation! That's terribly inconvenient for someone getting into IM, because Paypal is pretty much the universal money handler online, or at least it seems like that. I'm not entirely sure but 2CO is probably your best bet!
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      ClickBank, 2Checkout, Plimus and Fastspring. These allow customers to use PayPal, without the vendor (or affiliates) needing to be paid by PayPal.

      Possibly others, too, but those are the well-known ones that come to mind.

      You certainly have a much wider market if you can enable customers to pay by PayPal, even without using it yourself.
      Thanks!

      I was just about to ask the same question as most payment processors have issues processing payments in Latin America, PayPal being a huge problem here, yet we still need to be able to take PayPal payments.

      Right now we're testing which one performs better. Clickbank does, yet the fee is too high and only works for digital products.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Daniel Molano View Post

        Right now we're testing which one performs better. Clickbank does, yet the fee is too high and only works for digital products.
        Hi Dan, very nice to see you posting again, after such a long time! I remember you were one of the people who were kind and helpful to me, when I was starting off, back in 2008.

        Yes, ClickBank fees are high, but I suppose they justify that by handling the affiliate payments with an automated set-up, as well. (You can sell physical products on ClickBank, in association with a digital product, and there are some: Shippable Media ).
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeyLightning
    Alexa, Thank you for your input!

    Yet, I've contacted the majority of these, but, from my understanding, it seems as though they "require you to have a paypal account, to receive Paypal funds".

    Please correct me if I am incorrect!
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    • Profile picture of the author talfighel
      Originally Posted by MikeyLightning View Post

      Alexa, Thank you for your input!

      Yet, I've contacted the majority of these, but, from my understanding, it seems as though they "require you to have a paypal account, to receive Paypal funds".

      Please correct me if I am incorrect!
      I would just set up Clickbank and have them send me a check every 2 weeks.

      I don't think that there is another alternative to this.

      Plus, you can recruit other affiliates to sell your product for you through CB.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      I would just set up Clickbank and have them send me a check every 2 weeks.
      I don't think that there is another alternative to this.
      There are several alternatives to that, Tal.

      Originally Posted by MikeyLightning View Post

      Please correct me if I am incorrect!
      I believe you're incorrect, Mikey.

      You certainly don't need a PayPal account to sell through ClickBank.

      And I believe (unless they've all suddenly changed, which seems very unlikely?) that the same is true at 2Checkout, Plimus and Fastspring, too.

      Originally Posted by MikeyLightning View Post

      I've contacted the majority of these, but, from my understanding, it seems as though they "require you to have a paypal account, to receive Paypal funds".
      What do you mean by "PayPal funds"?

      Clearly you can't receive money yourself by PayPal, without having a PayPal account.

      But you can receive money which customers have originally paid to ClickBank/Plimus/etc by PayPal, without needing ClickBank/Plimus/etc to pay you by PayPal, because those networks accept PayPal from customers but pay vendors and affiliates in other ways. I thought this is what you're asking?
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  • Profile picture of the author Bukmedia
    I still have my PayPal account - but slowly fading it out...

    2checkout allows you to accept PayPal without having your own account
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeyLightning
    Thanks Bukmedia!

    The products need to be reviewed before they are accepted, correct? How are the fees with 2CheckOut? Worth it to sell a $10 product?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Nothing is better than PayPal, unfortunately. If you can get a family member to open a PayPal account or pay someone to get PP rolling again, do it. Alternatives will still allow you to make some money, but you won't make as much without PP. That's just how it is unless you go "whole-hog" ClickBank and Amazon, etc....then you don't need PayPal at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeyLightning
    Perfect!

    Thanks Alexa and talfighel!

    What alternative do you think has the lowest costs? (Where will I receive the largest profits?) Or are they very similar?

    Thank you for the input!
    Would you recommend setting up a page to sell the product on, and redirect users to the payment page for those already interested?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by MikeyLightning View Post

      What alternative do you think has the lowest costs? (Where will I receive the largest profits?) Or are they very similar?
      Sorry, I'm not sure. My guess is that ClickBank will be the most expensive of the four mentioned above, by some margin, and that there won't be big differences between the other three, but you need to check this because I might be wrong, too. (ClickBank takes 7.5% plus $1 per item).

      Originally Posted by MikeyLightning View Post

      Would you recommend setting up a page to sell the product on, and redirect users to the payment page for those already interested?
      With ClickBank, for example, you need to host the sales page on your own site (and they have to approve it, and the product - this will be so everywhere, I'm pretty sure), but they host the payment page themselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeyLightning
    Thanks for sharing Alexa!

    In that case, i'll check out 2Co first. Some money is better than no money, at this point, from the previous sales I have pending from my old e-book. Only thing is, I've never created/launched a product before, so creating the website may be a bit difficult. (No experience with wordpress). So, I'll have to figure it out.

    I appreciate your time!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by MikeyLightning View Post

      No experience with wordpress
      You and I both! :p

      Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeyLightning
    If any of you have free time for mentoring, and have made a killing with IM, I would donate my earnings to you, from whatever I was to learn, to learn IM from you

    Thanks again for everyone's input!
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeyLightning
    Daniel,

    Let me know how other alternatives like 2CO work out for you!
    I'm going to steer away from Clickbank for such small products at only $10.

    Will save that for the big ones above $30
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  • Profile picture of the author rabby saikat
    MikeyLightning i have the same problem like you. paypal is so stupid . if your customer make any mistake you have to recover it
    anyway
    best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    You might want to check out ProductPay.com

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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    I use Plimus and they allow you to be paid with PayPal without having an account.
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  • Profile picture of the author D8MM3
    Thanks for posting this question. I had the experience of paypal shutting my account down - only they never gave me a reason, and still won't. I am planning on utilizing my husband's paypal account, but appreciate all the great alternative answers that have been provided. Paypal may "be the best" but they can be unfairly harsh to people who don't deserve it as well. Thanks to everyone for suggesting the many other options available!
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