Question: PLR composed ebook - copyright claim

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Hello!

If I compose and sell ebooks that consist of some PLR articles -
can the buyer sell this ebook again and put a <(c) 2012 - buyer company - All Rights Reserved> on each page?

thanks in advance
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  • Profile picture of the author JPaston
    Not sure of your exact meaning in the question but...

    ...if you sell a product as PLR then it is up to you to define how it can be used.

    Normally PLR allows the buyer to edit it any way they want, and that includes adding their name as author.

    You could, however, restrict them from claiming Copyright, if you really wanted to, as part of the conditions.

    However, does it really matter? If they claim Copyright then it normally applies to the whole product, not just the individual articles. The reason is that, presumably, the articles are already distributed as PLR therefore no Copyright claim would hold up in court for other uses of that text.

    I'm not a lawyer, so don't hold me responsible for that advice. It's just how I see it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandra Martinez
      Source: Private label rights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      While licenses differ with each author and seller, the basic premise is that the license permits buyers to re-brand the content under their own name and brand (excluding copyright). In general practice this means that the product can be modified, sold, resold or repurposed in many different formats. In some cases authorship on the original product is allowed and with unrestricted private label, buyers are often able to resell the same rights they've acquired although not all private label releases offer or permit license distribution or transfer.
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      • Profile picture of the author AlfredNewman
        thanks for your responses!!!!!
        actually Im weaving together snippets of plr articles and sell them to clients, while branding them and putting their names on the pages -
        one client asked me if he can put a (c) "his name" into it and I was unsure about it - so I guess any copyright claim wouldnt make sense cause the content was already published elsewhere - so in theory I could give him the right to make a copyright claim but it would be useless because the content is already floating around elsewhere on the web and wouldnt hold up in court, if I understood it right? regards
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        • Profile picture of the author john01a
          Originally Posted by AlfredNewman View Post

          actually Im weaving together snippets of plr articles and sell them to clients, while branding them and putting their names on the pages -
          one client asked me if he can put a (c) "his name" into it and I was unsure about it - so I guess any copyright claim wouldnt make sense cause the content was already published elsewhere - so in theory I could give him the right to make a copyright claim but it would be useless because the content is already floating around elsewhere on the web and wouldnt hold up in court, if I understood it right? regards
          I seriously doubt you can give him the right to make a copyright claim to something that you do not hold the copyright to.

          I think it would do him more harm if he did claim copyright to content that he does not have the copyright to.

          If you created the work, and gave that to him (like a ghostwriter) and made it clear that he would be the copyright holder of the work, then it would be a different story. In other words, you no longer have copyright to that work, he does.

          I'm sure your client will understand why claiming copyright would be an issue, if he is aware that he is buying bundled up PLR content.

          When it comes to PLR content, the PLR content provider (i.e. where the content originated from) holds the copyright. Sure, the PLR content provider gives buyers various rights... but giving them copyright to that content is not one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author raycowie
    You could just offer Master Resale Rights, which means they cannot change the content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
    Originally Posted by AlfredNewman View Post

    Hello!

    If I compose and sell ebooks that consist of some PLR articles -
    can the buyer sell this ebook again and put a <(c) 2012 - buyer company - All Rights Reserved> on each page?
    Not unless the buyer wants to risk getting sued! Claiming the copyright on a work that one did not create is the textbook definition of copyright infringement.

    Unless the original creator of the work explicitly states otherwise, he/she ALWAYS holds the copyright, regardless of whether the work is "bundled" with other works (ie in an ebook) or not.

    Generally speaking.... with unrestricted PLR, the end user can do pretty much do whatever they want with the content... except claim copyright. Of course... if the end user changes the content so much that's it completely unrecognizable from the original work, then that's another story.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    I am not an attorney, nor do I want to be. My wife, an attorney, used to present a copyright program to people in the photography industry. This was 24 years ago, after a revision of the copyright laws, so I am not certain about how "things" are today, but...

    ...while the creator owns the copyright when the book, photograph, article, or whatever is created, certain procedures need to be followed before you would pursue someone who infringes on your right to make copies - your copyright.

    One is, you must register the work with the US Copyright Office before beginning a pursuit, and the other is (and this is important)...

    ...3 pieces of information must appear on all copies of your creation.

    1. the copyright symbol or the word "copyright"
    2. the year
    3. the name of the copyright holder.

    Without all 3, you would still be the owner of the copyright, but the amount of damages for which you could sue becomes severely limited to the sale price of the number of copies made by the infringer.

    All 3 are necessary for you to pursue for punitive damages.

    So without all 3, you can't get enough money from a suit to even pay an attorney. It becomes a catch 22 for PLR books.

    Hopefully, Brian or one of the attorneys who are members here can chime in to let us know if this is still the case.

    I see a large number of reports, ebooks, websites, podcasts, and articles without all 3... copyright, year, owner.

    :-Don
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      certain procedures need to be followed before you would pursue someone who infringes on your right to make copies - your copyright.
      1. None of this is necessary any longer.

      2. Do not take legal advice from people on the internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    As always, the real "gem" in the information given by the OP comes forward only after some pressure to be clearer...
    actually Im weaving together snippets of plr articles and sell them to clients, while branding them and putting their names on the pages -
    one client asked me if he can put a (c) "his name" into it
    Wait! Are you telling here that you take PLR stuff and sell it to your clients as a 'ghostwriter'?
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