It's my Birthday! Here's a Present for *YOU* (a YouTube Secret)

Jesus Perez · 04-06-2009, 12:43 PM

It's my birthday. I woke up to tons of presents from my wife including a new Amazon Kindle (looks very sleak but it's still charging

).

In typical WF fashion, here's my gift to you this year.

Everyone knows that getting YouTube traffic has a LOT to do with thumbnails. Get a good thumbnail image and your views will increase...a lot.

But how do you get the thumbnail image?

I ran a little test.

I recorded a movie of a countdown timer that ran 30 seconds. Then, I uploaded to YouTube and waited to see what "seconds" would appear in the thumbnail review. The results are below.

So if you want nice thumbnails to appear in 30 sec clips, put them in the 5, 13 or 21 second timelines.

Good luck!

-Jesus

cashcow · 04-06-2009, 01:05 PM

Sweet - I always wondered about that! Never thought to test it out myself though.

P.S. I want the Kindle, I hope you enjoy yours!

Teresa Coppes · 04-06-2009, 02:20 PM

Thanks for the tip and wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday!! Have a great day.

rhondaklewis · 04-06-2009, 02:53 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

xlfutur1 · 04-06-2009, 02:55 PM

Isn't there a feature in youtube that you can upload your own thumbnail to use?

paulwaltz · 04-06-2009, 02:56 PM

Cool tip! Happy birthday man! Enjoy your Kindle.

michaelmac · 04-06-2009, 02:57 PM

Happy Birthday buddy, and thanks for the advice - Have a cool day!!!

Mark Riddle · 04-06-2009, 03:12 PM

Happy Birthday !

affiliatemom · 04-06-2009, 03:19 PM

Feliz cumpleanos mi amigo nuevo; y muchos mas (con mucho dinero, amistades, buen y sano y familia preciosa!)

Alicia

Peter Bestel · 04-06-2009, 03:24 PM

Happy Birthday

I don't mean to be a party pooper, especially as it's a birthday gift, but I don't think your example will work with different videos.

As you probably know, Youtube used to offer a still from the 25%, 50% & 75% position of the video. Since December, however, they've been running an algorithm (typical huh!) which chooses apparent representative images from each and every video. So I don't see how we can manipulate that choice.

This is a quote from the Google Blog:

"When a new video comes to YouTube, we now analyze it with an algorithm whose aim is to pick a set of images that are visually representative of the content of the video."

If this is indeed the way they're selecting the images then your example won't work.

Awwwe, I feel terrible now, sorry

Have a great birthday anyhow and enjoy your charged kindle.

Peter

P.S. This is the link to the Google Blog

Clyde Dennis · 04-06-2009, 04:04 PM

Shoot man, that Peter sure knows how to throw a wet blanket on and otherwise smoking birthday party!

Don't let a few facts ruin anything... Party On!

VideoLeadsOnline · 05-14-2009, 11:56 PM

Peter has it right when you look at the "letter of the law" as issued by YouTube. But guys like me, we push the edge and we find that although YouTube claims they are analyzing the content, it really looks like they are not.

It looks like they stay consistent within a very tightly defined length to position rule.
So for the real skinny on where to set your 30 second thumbnails, check out my research page on YouTube Thumbnails.

BTW, I make money helping people set the thumbnails accurately, so it really does work based on time of a clip, not content (people tell me the length of a clip, I tell them the Positions for Thumbnails...everyone is happy). My test 30 video proves that.

BTW, the birthday boy was close on 1 of the 3 thumbnail positions #13 was correct for the middle one, but to be more accurate it should be 13 sec + 15 frames (at 30fps).

Check out the details yourself at: videoleadsonline com/youtube-thumbnails.html

Or look for the proof video on YouTube Search: "YouTube Thumbnail Test 30"

Happy Thumbing!

steveknipschild · 05-14-2009, 11:59 PM

Happy Birthday!!

And thank you for the tip... Looks like some testing may be in order, too.

jasondinner · 05-15-2009, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clyde Dennis

Shoot man, that Peter sure knows how to throw a wet blanket on and otherwise smoking birthday party!

Don't let a few facts ruin anything... Party On!

Thanks Clyde - I just laughed hard!!

Jesus!!! - Happy Birthday :P

Kevin Riley · 05-15-2009, 01:02 AM

Happy Birthday BlueSquares

Peter, I think their algorithm is set to find the thumbnails where I look like I'm drunk or stupid (OMG, there's an open statement for Taylor and Myers)

Akky · 05-15-2009, 01:20 AM

First of all, Happy b'day mate. Blast off! :P

Also, Thanks for the present! I think we are the ones who have to give you a present! Move along with time! what to say :P

G'day,
Akky

Peter Bestel · 05-15-2009, 01:41 AM

VideoLeadsOnline,

Thanks for the correction, I'm glad to be wrong, it means we can manipulate the situation and that's always useful.

So YouTube (and by association, Google) don't play by the rules. This shouldn't really be news to anyone.

If BlueSquares is still enjoying his birthday then it's been one helluva party!!

And Kevin,

Quote:

I think their algorithm is set to find the thumbnails where I look like I'm drunk or stupid

Don't need no alogorithm for that now do we!

Peter

astevn816 · 06-09-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSquares

It's my birthday. I woke up to tons of presents from my wife including a new Amazon Kindle (looks very sleak but it's still charging

).

In typical WF fashion, here's my gift to you this year.

Everyone knows that getting YouTube traffic has a LOT to do with thumbnails. Get a good thumbnail image and your views will increase...a lot.

But how do you get the thumbnail image?

I ran a little test.

I recorded a movie of a countdown timer that ran 30 seconds. Then, I uploaded to YouTube and waited to see what "seconds" would appear in the thumbnail review. The results are below.

So if you want nice thumbnails to appear in 30 sec clips, put them in the 5, 13 or 21 second timelines.

Good luck!

-Jesus

Very nice present indeed, Thanks.

Jason Moffatt · 06-09-2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlfutur1

Isn't there a feature in youtube that you can upload your own thumbnail to use?

There is, but only for people who are part of their partnership program. And most marketers can forget about getting that invite.

Steven Carl Kelly · 06-09-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Peter, I think their algorithm is set to find the thumbnails where I look like I'm drunk or stupid (OMG, there's an open statement for Taylor and Myers)

As soon as I read that I was going to reply: "So basically any frame at all". But I decided against it!

fernando avila · 06-09-2009, 12:58 PM

hey man thanks for the tip. i just saw this thread

Dino F · 06-09-2009, 01:01 PM

Happy Birthday !!! And thanks for the geat tip.

Gambbit · 06-09-2009, 01:09 PM

Hey,

Happy Bthday.

Thanks for the great tip.

Paid Surveys · 06-09-2009, 01:14 PM

Nice tip, just tried it on my own youtube account and will keep you posted on it's success

06-09-2009, 02:40 PM

Happy Birthday dude ... Wish you all the best ...

@Pete - visually representative of the content of the video

Ok and who is the "human" that is visually picking the best image to show ...lol I think their machine needs a little work on picking those images...

James

tommygadget · 06-09-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Bestel

Happy Birthday

I don't mean to be a party pooper, especially as it's a birthday gift, but I don't think your example will work with different videos.

As you probably know, Youtube used to offer a still from the 25%, 50% & 75% position of the video. Since December, however, they've been running an algorithm (typical huh!) which chooses apparent representative images from each and every video. So I don't see how we can manipulate that choice.

This is a quote from the Google Blog:

"When a new video comes to YouTube, we now analyze it with an algorithm whose aim is to pick a set of images that are visually representative of the content of the video."

If this is indeed the way they're selecting the images then your example won't work.

Awwwe, I feel terrible now, sorry

Have a great birthday anyhow and enjoy your charged kindle.

Peter

P.S. This is the link to the Google Blog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clyde Dennis

Shoot man, that Peter sure knows how to throw a wet blanket on and otherwise smoking birthday party!

Don't let a few facts ruin anything... Party On!

Quote:

Originally Posted by VideoLeadsOnline

Peter has it right when you look at the "letter of the law" as issued by YouTube. But guys like me, we push the edge and we find that although YouTube claims they are analyzing the content, it really looks like they are not.

It looks like they stay consistent within a very tightly defined length to position rule.
So for the real skinny on where to set your 30 second thumbnails, check out my research page on YouTube Thumbnails.

BTW, I make money helping people set the thumbnails accurately, so it really does work based on time of a clip, not content (people tell me the length of a clip, I tell them the Positions for Thumbnails...everyone is happy). My test 30 video proves that.

BTW, the birthday boy was close on 1 of the 3 thumbnail positions #13 was correct for the middle one, but to be more accurate it should be 13 sec + 15 frames (at 30fps).

Check out the details yourself at: videoleadsonline com/youtube-thumbnails.html

Or look for the proof video on YouTube Search: "YouTube Thumbnail Test 30"

Happy Thumbing!

Ahem, Thanks BlueSquares, it's the thought that counts. Now for everybody splitting hairs, here's a foolproof method: Have a girl in a bikini at the beach read your ad copy. Problem solved. You can click on the thanks button everybody

TomG.

Nigel Greaves · 06-09-2009, 02:48 PM

Two months late but HAPPY BIRTHDAY and thank you!

Nigel

Joseph Then · 06-09-2009, 05:25 PM

Great Tip!

Now I know where to put my "CLICK HERE!" button in my videos...

Andrew Maule · 06-09-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Bestel

Happy Birthday

I don't mean to be a party pooper, especially as it's a birthday gift, but I don't think your example will work with different videos.

As you probably know, Youtube used to offer a still from the 25%, 50% & 75% position of the video. Since December, however, they've been running an algorithm (typical huh!) which chooses apparent representative images from each and every video. So I don't see how we can manipulate that choice.

This is a quote from the Google Blog:

"When a new video comes to YouTube, we now analyze it with an algorithm whose aim is to pick a set of images that are visually representative of the content of the video."

If this is indeed the way they're selecting the images then your example won't work.

Awwwe, I feel terrible now, sorry

Have a great birthday anyhow and enjoy your charged kindle.

Peter

P.S. This is the link to the Google Blog

Yeah, this is correct. Unfortunately!

Happy birthday!!!!!!!!!

Tony Dean · 06-09-2009, 11:28 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

I wish we had Kindle's down here in Australia.

04-06-2009, 12:43 PM	#1
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Teresa Coppes HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 296 Thanks: 123 Thanked 77 Times in 65 Posts Social Networking	*Re: It's my Birthday! Here's a Present for YOU* (a YouTube Secret)** Thanks for the tip and wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday!! Have a great day.

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Peter Bestel there is no spoon War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wigtown, Newton Stewart, Scotland. Posts: 1,194 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 183 Thanked 360 Times in 140 Posts Social Networking	*Re: It's my Birthday! Here's a Present for YOU* (a YouTube Secret)** Happy Birthday I don't mean to be a party pooper, especially as it's a birthday gift, but I don't think your example will work with different videos. As you probably know, Youtube used to offer a still from the 25%, 50% & 75% position of the video. Since December, however, they've been running an algorithm (typical huh!) which chooses apparent representative images from each and every video. So I don't see how we can manipulate that choice. This is a quote from the Google Blog: "When a new video comes to YouTube, we now analyze it with an algorithm whose aim is to pick a set of images that are visually representative of the content of the video." If this is indeed the way they're selecting the images then your example won't work. Awwwe, I feel terrible now, sorry Have a great birthday anyhow and enjoy your charged kindle. Peter P.S. This is the link to the Google Blog
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VideoLeadsOnline VideoLeadsOnline Join Date: May 2009 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Social Networking	*Re: It's my Birthday! Here's a Present for YOU* (a YouTube Secret)** Peter has it right when you look at the "letter of the law" as issued by YouTube. But guys like me, we push the edge and we find that although YouTube claims they are analyzing the content, it really looks like they are not. It looks like they stay consistent within a very tightly defined length to position rule. So for the real skinny on where to set your 30 second thumbnails, check out my research page on YouTube Thumbnails. BTW, I make money helping people set the thumbnails accurately, so it really does work based on time of a clip, not content (people tell me the length of a clip, I tell them the Positions for Thumbnails...everyone is happy). My test 30 video proves that. BTW, the birthday boy was close on 1 of the 3 thumbnail positions #13 was correct for the middle one, but to be more accurate it should be 13 sec + 15 frames (at 30fps). Check out the details yourself at: videoleadsonline com/youtube-thumbnails.html Or look for the proof video on YouTube Search: "YouTube Thumbnail Test 30" Happy Thumbing!

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