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Old 08-28-2008, 03:46 PM   #1
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Default Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

I was looking at a Clickbank product that I was going to include in my marketing projects and I noticed something strange.

One of the testimonial boxes was from a similar product and the sites link at the end of the testimonial was an affiliate link to that product.

I have never come across that before and it really turned me off to promoting that CB product. Is this something you have seen before?

Now, I am a big fan of outside the box marketing techniques, and I give the site owner props for creativity, but as far as looking for affiliates to promote his site, this could be a bad thing. Yes, No?

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Default Re: Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

Wow! Another idiot move by vendors not honoring his affiliates. Definitely a big NO!

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Default Re: Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

Let me make sure I understand this. The sales letter for product A had a testimonial from the creator of product B, and that testimonial had site A's owner's affiliate link for product B in it. Is that right?

If so, I don't see what's black hat about it.
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Let me make sure I understand this. The sales letter for product A had a testimonial from the creator of product B, and that testimonial had site A's owner's affiliate link for product B in it. Is that right?

If so, I don't see what's black hat about it.
Oopps...

I think I didn't comprehend well. I thought the testimonial link back to the product but with his own aff link. Sorry.

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Old 08-28-2008, 04:12 PM   #5
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Default Re: Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

I totally agree.

To me that's just making clever use of a link.

Kind of reminds me of a Dan Kennedy thought of using any area of blank space for marketing like on the outside of envelopes.

So why not make use of the link and try to make money off of it?


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Let me make sure I understand this. The sales letter for product A had a testimonial from the creator of product B, and that testimonial had site A's owner's affiliate link for product B in it. Is that right?

If so, I don't see what's black hat about it.

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:40 PM   #6
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Default Re: Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

thats not black hat, blackhat is when you decieve people, like those sht's (sry for that) that they pretend to be a woman on classified ads and making people join their dating site to meet them..this is blackhat

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:42 PM   #7
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I dont see how thats blackhat, the guy probably just tries to monetize his traffic.
Aint nothing blackhat in that I would say...

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Old 08-28-2008, 05:49 PM   #8
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I was looking at a Clickbank product that I was going to include in my marketing projects and I noticed something strange.

One of the testimonial boxes was from a similar product and the sites link at the end of the testimonial was an affiliate link to that product.

I have never come across that before and it really turned me off to promoting that CB product. Is this something you have seen before?

Now, I am a big fan of outside the box marketing techniques, and I give the site owner props for creativity, but as far as looking for affiliates to promote his site, this could be a bad thing. Yes, No?
I think that is very dishonest! The vendor should do everything in his/her power to make sure their affiliates don't miss out on any sales.

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Old 08-28-2008, 06:20 PM   #9
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Default Re: Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

Thanks for the thoughts and replies.

Normally I wouldn't mind things like this, but it just had a "shady" feeling around it. I think the 2 related products may be created by the same "organization". This testimaonial box was very BIG and Prominent early is the sales letter that really just stood out and made me want to click that link and leave the initial site.

If I promoted the site, I fealt I would lose a lot of my traffic.

Again, I like the overall creativity, but not from an affiliate point of view.

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Old 08-28-2008, 06:30 PM   #10
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Default Re: Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

If I'm understanding the situation correctly then I agree with Amy.
If I give a testimonial and it has a link to my website/product,then the person who put it on his site does not in my opinion have the right to substitute his affiliate link into the box.
Edit: If in fact Greg is correct and the two are owned by the same organization is the only way I can think of that I would consider this technique proper.


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Old 08-28-2008, 07:02 PM   #11
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So Greg, was my interpretation of your question correct? I can tell that some read it a different way than I did, so we are not all answering the same question.
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:49 PM   #12
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So Greg, was my interpretation of your question correct? I can tell that some read it a different way than I did, so we are not all answering the same question.
To clarify:

Product A ("Bill") has a testimonial from "Dave". Dave's testimonial (kind of a mini pre-sell) has his name and website link at the bottom of the box.

Dave's link is actually Bill's affiliate link to Product B (Dave's product).

The products are extremely similar and would confuse the average non-IM customer, so if they clicked away, my commission would go away.

I am all for having a link in a testimonial box, but to replace that with an affiliate link kind of makes it seem unethical.

(Like saying I will only accept testimonials for my site if I can use MY affiliate link as part of YOUR testimonial?)

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Old 08-28-2008, 09:51 PM   #13
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(Like saying I will only accept testimonials for my site if I can use MY affiliate link as part of YOUR testimonial?)
I do not know anyone that would give a testimonial to someone else if they knew that was going to happen.
I have given many testimonials over the years,I was clsoer to being "known" then than now as I have been away from IM for a few years, but there were always two conditions to me giving one.
1: My opinion wa going to be honest,if I thought the product was good, I'd say so, if I thought it was crap, I'd say that too.
And of course the second was that there was a link back to one of my sites under my testimonial.
Chaning that link to an affiliate link without my knowledge is definitely unethical in my book.

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Default Re: Good Technique or Black Hat re: Testimonials?

I think it's a good move from the vendor.

I mean, if someone was going to click on the link and surf away from my sales page, why not make money off of it?

The merchant's goal is to sell his own product but I see no problem with adding an aff link to another product is it's appropriate and not "In YOUR FACE".

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I am all for having a link in a testimonial box, but to replace that with an affiliate link kind of makes it seem unethical.
There's nothing unethical about that, unless you think affiliate marketing is unethical.
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