How To Piss Off Your WSO Buyers

You are so right.

I left that one off the list.

This i dont like at all!!!!

Yes, I hate that more than anything. Where's the "trust"? I mean, how are you supposed to trust someone who uses 100 different email addresses and names? Simple, you don't.

Best regards,
Adam
SEO Haven Team

List selling, swapping, renting... Been going on forever... Had a few from same guy a couple days ago, left a message asking who he is and how he got my email address on his WSO thread, still waiting for a reply...

The problem is once your email has been circulated it's too late...

How are they also adding me to GoToWebinar if I'm not signing up for it?

You mean there are warriors who's whole business model is creating WSO's and selling them.... lol

Danny

This is a great post.

Being new to internet marketing, I hadn't really experienced the "bad seeds" of IM, until subscribing to a list recently that spams the heck out of my inbox.

I guess this is coming increasingly common, and like Paul said, it's teaching beginners the wrong way to go about this business.

I have been lucky to learn from some of the great people on this forum, so I don't have to worry about the bad guys.

Jake

George I love your honesty and thats why I stay on every one of your list.

Ken



The Old Geezer

This is very helpful to us newbies for a couple reasons - 1. We want to learn how to do things correctly and without being obnoxious, inconsiderate or inappropriate in our sending customers emails. 2. We want to make sure that we are NOT already doing some of those things and to stop if we are.

I personally haven't done any of the above mentioned things, but it got me to wondering if I was doing something I needed to change. Your post let me know that I am on the right track and have not learned any bad habits. Thanks!

Hi Harlan,

Well the reason this type of 'marketing' is still prevalent around here is possibly because not so long ago there was a syndicate of big hitters who used to charge $1-2k for their training courses and taught a certain approach to doing business online, along with presenting themselves as thought-leaders (and reinforcing this via their syndicated network of opinion).

They would come here with their sock-puppet posters and deluge the forum whenever they were conducting a launch (every week or so), asking questions about the upcoming launch in the product review section as well as in here, posing as clueless newbs and/or using cheap outsourced hired hands to do the same.

They used every trick in the book - small print, hidden continuity, selling personal details to boiler rooms (which they sometimes owned) and a host of other techniques that got under the skin in a similar way to the things mentioned here in the OP.

When someone called them out in here for their antics, there would be a rush of protagonists, sycophants and enforcers attacking the person(s) who called them out, in this kind of manner -

'marketers complaining about marketing in a marketing forum'

...and many other fallacious arguments. Once they were nailed bang to rights and exposed, they followed up with the inevitable 'big hitters used to come here and share their secrets but they can't be bothered now because of the trolls, haters and naysayers - like you, Mr. big-shot call-outer.'

Their sycophants and enforcers used to continually repeat lines such as - 'don't pay as much attention to what they say as to what they actually do' ...thus confirming that to deceive and to bombard with interruptive and unexpected marketing is the Holy Grail of 'making bank', whereas those who instead would seek to simply inspire and seduce with overdelivery of value were lightweights who deserve to be crushed in the stampede for mansions, cars and yachts by the rampaging newbie herd.

Correct me if I'm wrong Harlan, but unless my memory is failing me I seem to recall that you were associated with that group of self-proclaimed 'gurus'?

On that basis, I'm left wondering why, now that most of them have departed this forum and if they are in the IM market at all, they keep a much lower profile, you do not understand that it's not cool to be a 'marketer complaining about marketing in a marketing forum'?

And further, why not just unsubscribe if you don't like their marketing?

And further still, considering this quote -

...why not revel in their ability to lose their own subscribers and cause buyer's remorse because this paves the way for more experienced salesmen to scoop up those prospects into their own funnel and show the amateurs how it's done properly and proficiently?

What are you hoping to achieve by whinging about aggressive marketing in a marketing forum?

For what it's worth, I've been un-subcribing all day from lists and they just switch me to another list.

That is very true....

Lots of people promoting each others products whether they are good or not....

Each giving testimonials on each others...

To be honest I dont do WSO's any more which is a real shame because it use to be a great place!

Danny