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Old 12-17-2012, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default The most successful Internet Marketers Hangout.... I wonder

I was just wondering this the other day. . . .


I seriously doubt that the most successful internet marketer in the world doesn't frequent WF.

I mean - if you think about it - how could they not spend their time here?

Could you imagine someone just 'learning this stuff on their own' and being a recluse on the internet and just raking in the money and have no digital footprint of it?

In other words - have you ever met someone successful that didn't TELL you about it?

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You last me towards the end there.

Most uber successful marketers are too busy working or relaxing.

The dudes in the middle, visit. Trust me, they do.

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I would imagine that the most uber successful marketers have people working for them who would visit here at least on occasion. Those people probably keep them posted on what's trending in here.

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Some of what seem to be the most successful Internet Marketers to the IM/MMO market telegraph their product launches. They'll be MIA for months, then suddenly appear with a long, detailed post about why most IMers fail and how to correct the situation. After the launch, they go back underground until the next launch.

There always seem to be a few Warriors who remember these guys posting here regularly when they started out, and welcome them back with effusive thanks for their insightful post. This leads to a parade of newer folks panting after the new launch.

That's not to say that there aren't successful marketers who hang out here for the right reasons. There are many, too many to avoid leaving someone out if I tried listing them.

Even those in the first camp may have value to offer. Just take it with your eyes wide open, knowing the motives behind the sudden urge to share.

As for "the most successful", you'd first need to define success and then have a way to independently audit how each candidate actually ranked.

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You make a good point, JohnMcCabe, I don't think I was clear in what my definition of 'most successful' was.

The absolute superlative, in my definition would probably be 'most respected'. But even then, it couldn't be quantified.

Others, I suppose would rank 'most successful' as:

The marketer that makes the most money
The marketer that ranks #1 on Google for 'internet marketing'
The marketer that has the biggest subscriber list
The marketer that became a millionaire youngest/quickest
The marketer that became the first BILLIONAIRE
The marketer that ....... etc?

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I was just wondering this the other day. . . .


I seriously doubt that the most successful internet marketer in the world doesn't frequent WF.

I mean - if you think about it - how could they not spend their time here?

Could you imagine someone just 'learning this stuff on their own' and being a recluse on the internet and just raking in the money and have no digital footprint of it?

In other words - have you ever met someone successful that didn't TELL you about it?
Why would the most successful internet marketers hang out on the Warrior Forum...?

Clearly, to explore all of the wonderful and great programs that are in the WSO section surely!

Seriously though, the only millionaire marketer I've ever seen in the Warrior Forum was Kelly Felix and that was to sell off his BTF program for a $7 trial. Now, if you count the self-proclaimed millionaires and successes in the forum, then there are plenty of those people hanging around.

They're not laying around and doing nothing as often as you think they are. People like Frank Kern are constantly on the go and thinking of the next product to sell to people. I seriously doubt he comes here for inspiration or to gain new information XD

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Three years ago, at least in my little town, there were a certain group of business owners who seemed to have it by the tail.

Huge new homes. A hummer and a vette sitting in the 100 grand attached garage with the studio apartment above for guest. Tailored clothing and a Lexus for their new 16 year old driver to parade in the school parking lot.

They seemed to forget those of us who had been in business for years. We didn't quiet stack up to the credentials it took to remain a friend. Some of us were driving a car 2 or 3 years old .. who could blame them?

Fast forward to today.

Those same elite apparently were living on borrowed money and credit cards. the economy dried up and so did their rob Peter to pay Paul businesses. They now find themselves driving second hand cars that come with a 29% interest rate because they have no credit.

They are living in a rented place now .. hell .. some of them are back in Mom and Dad's basement.

Things are not always as they seem.


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Which is why I will NEVER EVER EVER go back into debt again.

Took me 12 months to get out of debt (6 figures worth) and now I live a frugal lifestyle while my family/friends STILL think a good credit score is a good thing.

WTH?

(And it's also why I give away my eBook for free! People in debt can't buy stuff!)

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Which is why I will NEVER EVER EVER go back into debt again.

Took me 12 months to get out of debt (6 figures worth) and now I live a frugal lifestyle while my family/friends STILL think a good credit score is a good thing.

WTH?

(And it's also why I give away my eBook for free! People in debt can't buy stuff!)

In short - never take weight loss advice from a fat guy - nor take money advice from your broke uncle!
I understand your point, but a good credit score IS a good thing. Just maybe not for the reasons you think.

Many things you wouldn't think should be tied to credit score are. Auto insurance, for one thing. Some propeller-capped math wienie sold the proposition that lower credit scores were a predictor of accidents. In another time and place, I recall blowing a gasket when I got a letter telling me that my personal hard times were going to cost me more because the insurance company was raising my rates based on my credit score. Same driver, same policy, same perfect record, higher premium.

And if you do end up financing even reasonable purchases, like an affordable home or a reasonable car, your rates will be tied to your credit score.

I could go on...

Live the frugal lifestyle, but use enough credit responsibly to keep your score up. It will allow you to pay less for certain things you have to have. Meaning that it is the frugal thing to do...

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Most if not all successful marketers do not hang out around here. I'd say a good % of them can't stand this forum (blind leading the blind). They don't have the time to goof around on forums because they are too busy working or enjoying their wealth.
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I understand your point, but a good credit score IS a good thing. Just maybe not for the reasons you think.

Many things you wouldn't think should be tied to credit score are. Auto insurance, for one thing. Some propeller-capped math wienie sold the proposition that lower credit scores were a predictor of accidents. In another time and place, I recall blowing a gasket when I got a letter telling me that my personal hard times were going to cost me more because the insurance company was raising my rates based on my credit score. Same driver, same policy, same perfect record, higher premium.

And if you do end up financing even reasonable purchases, like an affordable home or a reasonable car, your rates will be tied to your credit score.

I could go on...

Live the frugal lifestyle, but use enough credit responsibly to keep your score up. It will allow you to pay less for certain things you have to have. Meaning that it is the frugal thing to do...
I have good enough credit to walk in the bank tomorrow and walk out with a sig only loan. Well personal loan anyway .. corporate loans are a little longer procedure no matter the credit score.

I am not saying that to brag (too much) just to prove the point that I could have easily went the same route had I not been able to look at the past and see all bubbles burst.

Good credit is a must now a days. I have actually heard of people getting turned down for jobs because they had let their credit go. I feel sorry for the ones who were really trying but not too bad for those that just decided they no longer wanted to pay.


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Good credit is a must now a days.
Agree... Credit is just a tool like any other, and can be really helpful at times.

That said, it's stupidly easy to get in over your head, and that's speaking from experience, and I'm pretty full on these days about not going into debt if I can't see a positive ROI on that debt in the near future.

Uncontrolled debt IMO is a very consuming and dangerous thing.

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Yes ^^^ This!

They do have a few hangouts on the web but they don't want those new to IM or those who don't actually have some serious business going on, you probably won't get anything out of it either. Not to say they don't help their communities but its not the level of help you find here for a newbie and if you ask too simple of questions you are more likely to get cursed at and have a moderator ban you instead of actually getting an answer.

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The most successful Internet Marketers such as the owners and leaders of:
  • Amazon.com
  • Google.com
  • Yahoo.com
  • Facebook.com
  • Ebay.com
  • Paypal.com
  • Microsoft.com
No, haven't seen them around.

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I'm intrigued by all these definitions of "success".

To me, success is having the reached the stage where you are free to decide to work or not work, depending on your mood.

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News flash. Being successful is not JUST about the money. Being successful is about being happy and having the money to be able to live the life you want to live.

Personally, I enjoy marketing -- always have. That's WHY I do it. If it were just for the money then I wouldn't be here. You have to enjoy what you do to be truly happy. And just like people who are interested in golf will hang out in a golf forum, I hang out in the Warrior Forum because I am interested in marketing.

Where people hang out has nothing to do with how much money they are making. In fact you could argue those who are 'uber' successful don't hang out in forums like this because they simply don't have the time to. But is that really success if you have no time to enjoy the finer things in life?

I know which I'd rather.

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I seriously doubt that the most successful internet marketer in the world doesn't frequent WF.

I mean - if you think about it - how could they not spend their time here?
Well, I reasonably certain that Bill Gates isn't here and Frank Kern is well known to hate the Warrior Forum. A lot of gurus were chased away by negativity and unwarranted or warranted skepticism, don't know which as I haven't seen more than a handful of them here myself ... at least not in their own name and active.

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Well, I reasonably certain that Bill Gates isn't here and Frank Kern is well known to hate the Warrior Forum. A lot of gurus were chased away by negativity and unwarranted or warranted skepticism, don't know which as I haven't seen more than a handful of them here myself ... at least not in their own name and active.
You bring up a good point. A lot of the 'gurus' would never hang out in a forum like this because they couldn't put up with all the real and honest feedback about themselves and their products. It would be damaging to their 'brand'. It's like virtually putting your business under a microscope.

I can see why someone like Frank Kern would hate a forum like this... it invites too much transparency into his marketing tactics. I've seen a number of threads about him and some of the marketing tactics he has used over the years. They haven't always been positive comments.

In regards to Bill Gates, I think there are a number of people in this forum doing much more innovative things than Bill Gates currently is. Microsoft who? In fact if it weren't for Windows coming pre-installed on all PC's, i would have it a bet he would be long gone.

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What? Frank Kern's videos are some of the most informative videos I've ever seen.

As far as "real" and "genuine" reviews go. *points over to the WSO section*

I mean come on now...

The only real difference between WSO products and Guru products is that Gurus sell their products for hundreds or thousands and tend to go more into depth while Warriors sell their products for $7 and sometimes even $1... There are some products in there for $46, $67 or in some very rare cases, even more.

I don't get all the hate against Gurus.. why hate them? Why not study them, copy their marketing tactics, their system and learn from them to do what they do? I agree not everyone wants to be where they are and wants to live their lifestyle but those of us that do should be studying them and not hating on them.

A lot of the things Frank say has a lot of truth in it and I think a lot of people hate him from here because he doesn't sugarcoat things. He's straight forward and says it how it is.

I used one of his quotes that I heard on a CD a lot, which was "People Suck".

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I saw James Schramko post here not too long ago. And I do believe that he's made a little money on the internet.

As for success, I completely agree that measuring it only by money is a mistake (though it makes things easy I suppose). You need enough money to do what you want to do, but after that? What's the point? I'd much rather have an extra four hours a day (as, in fact, I do) to do what I want than work those four hours to make "extra" money.

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What? Frank Kern's videos are some of the most informative videos I've ever seen.

As far as "real" and "genuine" reviews go. *points over to the WSO section*

I mean come on now...

The only real difference between WSO products and Guru products is that Gurus sell their products for hundreds or thousands and tend to go more into depth while Warriors sell their products for $7 and sometimes even $1... There are some products in there for $46, $67 or in some very rare cases, even more.

I don't get all the hate against Gurus.. why hate them? Why not study them, copy their marketing tactics, their system and learn from them to do what they do? I agree not everyone wants to be where they are and wants to live their lifestyle but those of us that do should be studying them and not hating on them.

A lot of the things Frank say has a lot of truth in it and I think a lot of people hate him from here because he doesn't sugarcoat things. He's straight forward and says it how it is.

I used one of his quotes that I heard on a CD a lot, which was "People Suck".
No one here said they hate Frank Kern nor did anyone say he has done anything wrong. What I did say was the bigger gurus have a lot more to lose from coming to a forum like this. There are always going to be haters out there and the bigger you are and the bigger your following (such as that of Frank Kern) the more haters you are going to attract.

So opening yourself up to public opinion on a forum won't always be a great idea and could do more harm than good. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just saying it's the reality of the situation.

There have been several 'gurus' come through here the last few years and a couple have left with their head between their knees.

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News flash. Being successful is not JUST about the money. Being successful is about being happy and having the money to be able to live the life you want to live.

Personally, I enjoy marketing -- always have. That's WHY I do it. If it were just for the money then I wouldn't be here. You have to enjoy what you do to be truly happy. And just like people who are interested in golf will hang out in a golf forum, I hang out in the Warrior Forum because I am interested in marketing.

Where people hang out has nothing to do with how much money they are making. In fact you could argue those who are 'uber' successful don't hang out in forums like this because they simply don't have the time to. But is that really success if you have no time to enjoy the finer things in life?

I know which I'd rather.
I agree, if you do not like IM or Entrepreneurship there is no way you will get very far in your business. Even though Mark Zuckerburg is a billionaire he has not retired and still trying to improve facebook and working 10+ hours a day, he doesn't do it for the money, he works on his business because he loves doing it. This doesn't just apply to IM it applies to everything in life.

In my opinion, I think you have to love the game, in this case IM and entrepreneurship to get far.
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The most important question is whether the top income earners can make enough from their time spent here.

Generating 250 leads a day may sound like an non-achievable number for most people here. For people who are making 350k a month this number may not even grab their attention!

The people you surround yourself with and the tasks you do should never be below your current potential level. If all of the sudden you start doing less profitable tasks and start to surround yourself with lower level people, your income shrinks.
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Which is why I surround myself with people here on WF...

I think the knowledge I gain here is invaluable.

The people I meet here are invaluable.

I came from a background of knowing I had a god system/product developed, I just needed to know/form a good sales funnel/traffic generation method to it (which I'm still developing)

That's where warrior forum came into play - and I think it's a great crowd source -- so long as you're asking the right questions.

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Which is why I surround myself with people here on WF...

I think the knowledge I gain here is invaluable.

The people I meet here are invaluable.

I came from a background of knowing I had a god system/product developed, I just needed to know/form a good sales funnel/traffic generation method to it (which I'm still developing)

That's where warrior forum came into play - and I think it's a great crowd source -- so long as you're asking the right questions.
This actually made me laugh out loud.

The Warrior Forum does have some good like minded individuals on it, but I wouldn't exactly call a majority of the posts here "invaluable".

I saw it in here that they like to hang out with same "type" of people. Rich people aren't snobs and they're actually very easy to get along with. They like to hang out with like-minded people whether they share their own level of wealth or not.

As far as Gurus leaving here with their heads in between their knees, who does that? Those people who have achieved that level of success are more than used to complaints based off of jealousy and people who bash their stuff any chance they get.

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I saw it in here that they like to hang out with same "type" of people.
Well you are a member of this forum so does that sum up you? If not then you are just making generalizations based on your own beliefs. You don't and couldn't possibly know what sort of people hang out here and how much they are earning. So why make such generalized comments.

A lot of the members of this forum are people who only ever read and never post anything. You know all of them as well do you?


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The Warrior Forum does have some good like minded individuals on it, but I wouldn't exactly call a majority of the posts here "invaluable".
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Well you are a member of this forum so does that sum up you? If not then you are just making generalizations based on your own beliefs. You don't and couldn't possibly know what sort of people hang out here and how much they are earning. So why make such generalized comments.

A lot of the members of this forum are people who only ever read and never post anything. You know all of them as well do you?




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The keyword there was being "the majority". I pick up writing clientele from here and answer questions on subjects i'm knowledgeable in when I see one come up.

I'm not saying every single thread here is lol worthy, there are some interesting and read-worthy threads in here from time to time.
Just picking .

I get your point but the members of this forum are a large and varied bunch of people. That's all I am trying to get across. We can't say no one here is successful because there are plenty of members here I know are making $500,000 + per year -- some much more than that. They are the minority yes, but they are still members of this forum and a lot of them owe their success to this forum.

This forum, like anything, is what you make it. It's not going to make you rich, only you can make you rich. But this forum has a lot of great opportunities and a wealth of information that if used correctly, can make you some very serious money.

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I really take issue with opinions like this. I've heard the same spoken so many different ways. You'll even hear similar from respected speakers on stage telling you not to waste your time in forums because "if other forum participants knew anything they they wouldn't be wasting their time on forums telling you for free."

That goes along the same lines as "If web designers knew how to sell online, they wouldn't design other sites for people, they'd just go make a million designing their own websites."

Where does crap like that come from?

Sure, I know plenty of top pedigree web marketers that talk down to the world and scoff at forum participation. But a lot of those people are horrible business people too. They'll make $500K in a product launch over a 3-day time span and then they'll have to drum up something new in six months because they're broke again! They have nothing over us "forum participants."

I also know of a handful of very successful marketers and speakers that DO participate on this forum. They told ME about this forum years ago! Most go by a hidden name, but some people just really enjoy sharing and helping out. Don't be so quick to judge them based on their income. That's ridiculous.

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Based on your website and your ranking keywords .... I say your credentials are pretty respected.

And I for one thank you for contributing as you CLEARLY know what you're talking about and should be listened to.

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Agree... Credit is just a tool like any other, and can be really helpful at times.

That said, it's stupidly easy to get in over your head, and that's speaking from experience, and I'm pretty full on these days about not going into debt if I can't see a positive ROI on that debt in the near future.

Uncontrolled debt IMO is a very consuming and dangerous thing.
You can establish top-notch credit without going into debt over your head. Simply use a credit card for the things you would normally pay cash for, then pay the credit card balance when the bill comes. Takes discipline, but it can be done. Buy a car on credit, make a few monthly payments, then pay off the loan. If you buy something on '6 months same as cash' terms, divide the total by 5 and make regular payments.

Simple things like this will put you into the position of being able to walk into a bank and walk out with a check...

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So opening yourself up to public opinion on a forum won't always be a great idea and could do more harm than good. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just saying it's the reality of the situation.

There have been several 'gurus' come through here the last few years and a couple have left with their head between their knees.
This comment is not political, it could have gone either way and been a legitimate point.

Mitt Romney probably lost more votes with an unguarded comment about 47% of the country being entitled whiners than anything else he did during the campaign.

Joe Guru, responding off the cuff to a forum post, could easily make the same kind of mistake. Or be goaded into making that kind of mistake.

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Most successful internet marketers hangout in their private Skype groups. Some of them hangout in paid forums though I don't think they post much or none at all.

Do they hangout in the Warrior Forum? I think they do, this Forum cannot be ignored. Even Matt Cutts hangs out here as is evident from his recent video. They hangout here for the information, mostly of what does not work and some of what works. Not many people will disclose what really works.
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I think alot of the big names in the IM industry would be foolish not to stick around here since WE are their target market, it's all about understanding what's going on in the industry NOW, so they can pick the pain points.

Whether they're actually here themselves or hire people, or perhaps are part of high level masterminds that is fed data from others, in someway or another, they must know what's going on here.

As for keeping up with the latest innovations in the marketing world, I don't think so.

I believe at a certain level it can be compared much to providing online marketing services to local business owners, you resell services to these business owners and provide value by properly coordinating the "play" to be profitable for them.

Once you get to a certain income level, you can start to pay others for their services and coordinate your own game. Using Shramcko for example (who IMO is an absolute boss and takes IM to a whole nother level by applying not only marketing but actual proper business principles). I know that he hires out a Facebook PPC specialist to run his Facebook campaigns, he doesn't worry about the absolute indepths of it, but knows enough to properly apply it to his business to accomplish his goals.

Long answer short, they're here in someway if they're targeting the IM niche, because they want to know what YOU'RE thinking about.

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Top IM'ers hang out in their own private Skype groups, email groups, private mastermind groups, etc. Most of them hardly ever spend time in the WF.



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I seriously doubt that the most successful internet marketer in the world doesn't frequent WF.
I'd be pretty shocked if any of these people post here....
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And that list just scratches the surface.

This forum has it's purposes, but serving as the hangout for high functioning marketers/developers/producers/whoever isn't one of them. A few here and there hit the forums, but that's the extent of it.

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^^^This is where your wrong.

Those that are "uber" successful wouldn't class hanging out on WF one of the "finer things in life".
You can't possibly make a generalization like that though. By the finer things in life I mean things they enjoy doing -- their passions.

If someone is interested in marketing then it won't matter how much money they are earning. A passion is a passion. You don't just lose your passion because of money.

Over the years as my income has gone up and up and up my passion for marketing has only become stronger and so I make time to come here a few times a week. Let's be honest, it takes all of 5-10 minutes to pop in here of a day, see what going on, and help others if you can.

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I agree. It's like a very successful professional football player that loves the game and no matter who is playing hangs out with his buddies watching football games on TV, recording those they can't watch live, reading the news about football, etc. all outside his regular work/practice/workout schedule.

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You can't possibly make a generalization like that though. By the finer things in life I mean things they enjoy doing -- their passions.

If someone is interested in marketing then it won't matter how much money they are earning. A passion is a passion. You don't just lose your passion because of money.
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A couple of things, the most successful marketers in the world wont be hanging out here, at least not until they want to launch something and test it as a WSO.

The most uber successful marketers also would have the time to as they have plenty of systems in place to run their businesses without them, so they could but would probably prefer to be sat by the pool with their spare time.

The Uber successful may well of been here when they started out, infact I can name a few that sent me here and make 10s millions a year.

But there are plenty of successful marketers in here still active, just levelling up and leveraging this to take them to the next level.

It is a great resource tool to see what people are talking about, so on the way up can be important, but for the top ones they likely have others checking in just as research for their latest plan.

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Eh.. I would beg to differ that point by quite a bit. The sellers over at the WSO section have their target market here, and while there are people here who are willing to shell out several hundred or a couple grand for a product, that's a very small number of people who can or will.

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Be careful You'll get some of those double posters in here stirring up a riot and telling you about how much money they "make".

Aside from that, I actually did meet someone recently (very recent) who said he frequents the Warrior Forum. He's one of the top ASP.net developers in the country, so you can imagine he makes a pretty decent living. He also has side products through various affiliate networks and what not, interesting person. I brought up this thread and wanted to see what he thought about successful internet marketers coming to the Warrior Forum.

His exact words were "Yeah, I come to the Warrior Forum to study my sheep and get a good laugh now and again. Other than that.. no." He then went onto compare WF like the Unemployment line of the internet and said it'll always be filled with the same people looking to get rich off of hopes and dreams and never moving forward.

Can't really argue his point there with a lot of people, but I'm sure some people from here will make it big.

I don't even think the guy has 25 posts and has probably been registered here for years.

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Actually, the more successful the internet marketer, the less likely they are going to be found lurking around forums all day. Forums can be a big time waster unless you use them correctly.

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The most succesfull IM already know the basic theory how to make money that actually really simple..YES it's a good product ,service, marketing and hardworking ! while many newbie here struggling for theory of making money and wasting their time
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