Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-09-2009, 11:15 AM   #1
Gordon Gekko, Jr.
 
George Chernikov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 827
Thanks: 80
Thanked 49 Times in 24 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to George Chernikov
Default Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Dear Ghostwriters,

I would be very interested to hear how much you would charge for the following e-book:

- Relationship Repair/Get Your Ex Back
- 20,000 Words
- 2 Week Turnaround

While I am not looking to retain the services of a writer at this point, I would be very grateful to receive a price estimate for this kind of work.

George Chernikov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 12:48 PM   #2
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Alan Cheng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hong Kong.
Posts: 193
Blog Entries: 3
Thanks: 28
Thanked 72 Times in 18 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Alan Cheng
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

I will charge $2000.

Outsource Your Information Product Business To Experts - Hire A Ghostwriter



Alan Cheng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 12:49 PM   #3
Gordon Gekko, Jr.
 
George Chernikov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 827
Thanks: 80
Thanked 49 Times in 24 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to George Chernikov
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Great - anyone else wants to chime in?

George Chernikov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:08 PM   #4
Space Master
War Room Member
 
Shannon Tani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Honolulu, HI, USA.
Posts: 817
Thanks: 61
Thanked 45 Times in 40 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Well, 20,000 words is about 80 pages. Then you need to know a per-page rate. I'm running a special right now for $10 per page, so $800.

Love,
Shannon

Shannon Tani is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:10 PM   #5
Content & Copywriting Wiz
War Room Member
 
Steven Wagenheim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Roselle, NJ, USA
Posts: 16,394
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 1,531
Thanked 6,192 Times in 2,288 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

I charge 10 cents a word.

That would come out to $2,000.

Steven Wagenheim is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:13 PM   #6
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Dana_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida, USA.
Posts: 2,643
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 507
Thanked 549 Times in 219 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Yep, around $2000-$2500 sounds about right to me. I do know there are people who will do it much more cheaply; I don't know that the quality would be that good.

Dana_W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:22 PM   #7
Lookin at You....
War Room Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Out Of My Mind - Brandy Too
Posts: 4,120
Blog Entries: 3
Thanks: 2,885
Thanked 1,344 Times in 710 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post
Yep, around $2000-$2500 sounds about right to me.
And rightly so.. some people (like yourself) can fully justify this price... quality work is worth paying for.

Quote:
I do know there are people who will do it much more cheaply; I don't know that the quality would be that good.
This quote above is something that many people should pay attention to. The information needs to be solid and presented in a way that most readers will be able to absorb, finding a writer who does this is like hittin the jackpot..

My writer girl is a university student, and she is smokingly hot on a keyboard..

I'd be well prepared (and do) to drop $2,000 to her on a niche product.

Peace

Jay

p.s. I would have to charge $3,000.. that would be $1,000 for me and $2,000 for my writer to do the work...lol

Bare Murkage.........
JayXtreme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 01:28 PM   #8
Marketing Strategist
War Room Member
 
Raydal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Punta Gorda, FL, USA.
Posts: 3,249
Thanks: 150
Thanked 1,132 Times in 502 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Raydal
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Not an area I would write for but I ghostwrite for $60 per page (250 words)
so 20,000/250 X 60 = $4,800.

-Ray Edwards

Raydal is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 02:17 PM   #9
Jeff
War Room Member
 
jbsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ottawa,Canada.
Posts: 1,879
Thanks: 3
Thanked 272 Times in 201 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

I certainly respect the ghostwriters that have chimed in, they are the cream of the crop, but you can get this done more inexpensively and still get some very good quality.

I recently combined two writers for a Yoga and Meditation book, and the system we used where we had completely outlined the product for them resulted in less than $500 cost with very good quality (in fact first-hand experience with the topic).

I prefer to design my own info products because I want them written in a certain, step-by-step, testable way - then I get ghostwriters to fill in the content for me (sometimes I tackle a chapter or two myself).

Consider becoming more active in outlining and putting your stamp on your info product and then outsourcing the content development rather than just putting the topic out there.

Jeff

jbsmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:20 PM   #10
The Ethical Marketer
War Room Member
 
Michael Oksa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 6,063
Thanks: 1,750
Thanked 3,027 Times in 1,340 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to Michael Oksa
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Hi George,

Maybe we should team up in this niche.

Just a thought.



All the best,
Michael

Michael Oksa is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:32 PM   #11
Glad I Got Canned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: NY
Posts: 681
Thanks: 330
Thanked 61 Times in 57 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Why would any writer worth their salt take this job for less than 20 large (by which I mean $20,000)?

There are millions to be made if you produce a good product. Conversely, you won't make much if you cheap out and hire a sub-par wordsmith.

I'd be willing to do it for you for $2,000 up front and $18,000 deferred.

SurviveUnemployment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:35 PM   #12
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 40
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

I'd be willing to do it for $1000 with the rights to market the product myself.

Shakti2u
shakti2u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:41 PM   #13
Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

This makes me wish I could right so well (or waz that wright so well, or write)... so many options !!

Quite useful though that there a series of different options for calculating the costs of a product.
Per Page vs per word.
Though I guess if you are a good wordsmith you couldn't charge too much unless your work was verified as such.
So for your initial articles, though very good, you may have to charge a lesser amount until you have the recognition. Then you can begin to up the rate.

Or... I am missing the initial point here.

The Original Secret Society for Making Money on the Web >> Click Here
IsaacPoad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:45 PM   #14
Active Warrior
 
Anthony Wee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 49
Thanks: 15
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Around $1500
Anthony Wee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:53 PM   #15
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
ElectricEye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: I Live in All Web Contents
Posts: 119
Thanks: 163
Thanked 16 Times in 9 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Yahoo to ElectricEye
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

My offer is $600

ElectricEye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 03:56 PM   #16
Gordon Gekko, Jr.
 
George Chernikov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 827
Thanks: 80
Thanked 49 Times in 24 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to George Chernikov
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Ok, everyone, thanks a lot for your feedback.

So far, it appears that price estimates range from anywhere between $600 and $2,000, with the majority of people responding to this thread leaning towards the $2,000 end of the spectrum.

However, I also see people who are willing to accept the job for way below $1,000. My question is - why is this the case? Is it a matter of breaking into the ghostwriting market and then upping the prices, or do you believe that a 20,000 word book simply isn't worth that much?

Bear in mind that I'm not looking to retain anyone; however, this piece of market research will certainly prove to be incredibly valuable for me in the future.

George Chernikov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 05:21 PM   #17
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
CurtisN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada.
Posts: 1,300
Thanks: 143
Thanked 231 Times in 187 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SurviveUnemployment View Post
Why would any writer worth their salt take this job for less than 20 large (by which I mean $20,000)?

There are millions to be made if you produce a good product. Conversely, you won't make much if you cheap out and hire a sub-par wordsmith.

I'd be willing to do it for you for $2,000 up front and $18,000 deferred.
LMAO...$1/word. That's too funny XD

I'm not a regular ghostwriter, but if I were to take this job, I'd charge $10/page.

Curtis Ng (blog) - Product Launch Manager
CurtisN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 07:14 PM   #18
Writer
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,753
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 460
Thanked 999 Times in 372 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Bev Clement
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

George in answer to your question, from my research, and I have done a lot of research in the writing market, you will find many people have believed the myth that a writer will never get any work if they charge more than a couple of cents per word.

People look to sell their services in the wrong area to the wrong type of people, it is as simple as that.

People are afraid to raise their prices because they feel that people won't pay for their work. If you want to know more, contact me and I can give you my research information.

My prices $40 per 250 words, which is $0.16 per word which works out at $3,200.

My prices are low compared to some. I have seem places where $1,000 is charged for a 400 word article.

Bev Clement is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 07:18 PM   #19
Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

at a rate of $0.10 per word, that goes around $2000
3stars and a sun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 08:16 PM   #20
Senior Warrior Member
 
vicone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia.
Posts: 1,253
Thanks: 68
Thanked 191 Times in 160 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

You can do it more economically if you broke it down to 40 x 500 word articles. It would be possible to get those articles written for $10 if you specified the topic for each.

The basic content would then cost you $400.

Of course, top writers are charging more than $10 for a 500 word article but it is possible to get a "reasonable to good job" for that amount. $15 each ($600 total) would be more likely to produce a better result as better quality writers would express interest.

2 weeks turn around could be a problem if you wanted quality work - producing 40 articles in 2 weeks could impact on the quality. It's possible, but 3 - 4 weeks would allow competent writers to produce within their comfort zone.

It would involve a bit of your own time assembling them into a finished ebook or you could pay someone to do final editing.

Graphics would be extra but are likely to be minimal for a book on relationships, where photos could be used.

Ivan

vicone is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 09:17 PM   #21
Advanced Warrior
War Room Member
 
Justin Jordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The wilds of Pennsylvania
Posts: 772
Thanks: 45
Thanked 119 Times in 62 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Quote:
Originally Posted by vicone View Post
You can do it more economically if you broke it down to 40 x 500 word articles. It would be possible to get those articles written for $10 if you specified the topic for each.
You can't assemble forty articles into a reasonable ebook on this topic. Well, that's not entirely true - you certainly could, but the work involved would be at least as great as writing it yourself.

I definitely don't think if they're going to hire someone to create a product that this an area where you should be looking for the lowest bidder. The product needs to be a quality and product to sell and keep selling. If you skimp on the writing, you may lose your whole investment. Get a quality writer, and you'll make it over then fold.

The OP's best bet might actually be to find somebody willing to do it for a smallish upfront fee and a percentage of the sales. I'd certainly be interested in doing a project like that.

Justin Jordan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 09:43 PM   #22
Writer
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,753
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 460
Thanked 999 Times in 372 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Bev Clement
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Justin if you read the OP he says he isn't looking to hire someone

Bev Clement is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 10:04 PM   #23
Advanced Warrior
War Room Member
 
Justin Jordan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The wilds of Pennsylvania
Posts: 772
Thanks: 45
Thanked 119 Times in 62 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post
Justin if you read the OP he says he isn't looking to hire someone
Hah, that wasn't a veiled appeal for work, just a comment on the kind of thing that would make me take notice.

Justin Jordan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 10:07 PM   #24
Writer
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,753
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 460
Thanked 999 Times in 372 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Bev Clement
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Hi Justin, I know that.

Bev Clement is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2009, 11:08 PM   #25
PLR Article Queen
War Room Member
 
HomeBasedBusinessPLR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 152
Blog Entries: 4
Thanks: 53
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Hi,

I run an article writing business full time and I really enjoy working on new and different niches. I'm also looking to establish a customer base who can give testimonials on the quality of my work.

I would be willing to do it for $1500 and I'm extremely confident that I could get it done in less than 2 weeks.

HomeBasedBusinessPLR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2009, 06:39 AM   #26
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Dana_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida, USA.
Posts: 2,643
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 507
Thanked 549 Times in 219 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Writing is one of those arenas where the prices are all over the map. I charge more for my writing because I was a newspaper reporter for 17 years and I am, frankly, excellent at research and writing.

I've found that writing press releases pays better so I have moved away from writing ebooks and articles anyway; my prices are too high for what most people in internet marketing are willing to pay.

I'll say this; I've tested out article writers and anyone who charged less than $10 an article - generally was not that great. I think that there is a correlation between price and quality.

Dana_W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2009, 08:33 AM   #27
Advanced Warrior
War Room Member
 
KateD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: , , USA.
Posts: 975
Thanks: 30
Thanked 236 Times in 104 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

I have seem places where $1,000 is charged for a 400 word article.
Wow, that's amazing. Even in the offline world. That's $2.50 a word!

Hmmm, so where is this place again?


KateD

Outsourcing Services Offered By KateD to Help Your Business:

1. Expert Keyword Research (1300+ Happy Customers) DISCOUNTS! Click Here!

2. Let Me Submit Your EZA Articles to 20 Other Article Directories! Learn More Here!
KateD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2009, 08:38 AM   #28
Writer
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,753
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 460
Thanked 999 Times in 372 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Bev Clement
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Kate didn't I say where they were?

I found them online, they have a website and their prices for a 400 word article is $1,000

Forget that, I found a couple of places online where $2.50 per word was normal, and it wasn't here on the Warrior Forum.

Bev Clement is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2009, 08:47 AM   #29
Hulk Warrior
 
anth.elias's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Atlantis
Posts: 215
Thanks: 1
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

I'll say this; I've tested out article writers and anyone who charged less than $10 an article - generally was not that great. I think that there is a correlation between price and quality.
Couldn't disagree more, I have my own ghost writer that I pay $3 an article. He is just absolutely awesome, there is not a subject that he cannot write from technical documents to just content for my sites. I would never give him up he is the life blood of my sites.

anth.elias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2009, 01:02 PM   #30
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Dana_W's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida, USA.
Posts: 2,643
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 507
Thanked 549 Times in 219 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

I'm not saying that there are NO good quality writers out there at that price range; I think they are harder to find though. And if you have a good quality article writer at $3 an article, never let him or her go!

Dana_W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2009, 01:40 PM   #31
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
CurtisN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada.
Posts: 1,300
Thanks: 143
Thanked 231 Times in 187 Posts
Default Re: Ghostwriters - How Much Would You Charge for This Book?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post
$1 per word is fairly common for professional writing in the offline realm. The poster who said that probably isn't aware that it's much less common for online work.

Tina G
That's understandable I guess. But it's like someone coming here and suggesting that graphic designers not sell their minisite design services for anything less than $2000 per site. Maybe people pay that in the offline world, but I'd probably still have the same reaction :P

Curtis Ng (blog) - Product Launch Manager
CurtisN is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Main Internet Marketing Discussion Forum

Tags
book, charge, ghostwriters

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:52 PM.