Looking to Make This a Great Year But...

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I am in a bit of a rut. I have been on this forum for a while now, and read, read, and read some more. A lot of the stuff I know already, but I find that I get a little bit of everything. People tell me to post on my blog, while others tell me not to. So, needless to say, my site sucks right now, LOL.

Long story short, I go to school online full-time and REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, have a desire and passion to write or build a few affiliate sites. I want to write a few e-books and have one outlined already, just not sure if it'll sell since it seems everyone is touching on the topic.

I want to write for a specific few niches, but not sure where to find the work for it. I also want to open up to new ways to make money, but the biggest problem is I don't have money to invest into it. Some programs cost $100 or more, and that is just something I do not have.

I love this site because of the abundance of information there is, but I find that I can't spend much time reading because i have to write a few articles in hopes of making a few bucks a week, and I have classes full-time, on top of two kids.

I find that charging $1 per 100 words seems to get me work, but I find that I have to work extra hard just to make what I need to make each week. Sooo, any tips to help a newbie out in the online world of making money?!
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  • Profile picture of the author seriousjake
    Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

    I am in a bit of a rut. I have been on this forum for a while now, and read, read, and read some more. A lot of the stuff I know already, but I find that I get a little bit of everything. People tell me to post on my blog, while others tell me not to. So, needless to say, my site sucks right now, LOL.
    Sounds like you can't focus. Pick either posting regularly or not and see how it works for some time. It's the only way to test and figure out what'll work for YOUR site. Although I can't imagine how NOT posting on your blog is of any benefit.

    Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

    I want to write for a specific few niches, but not sure where to find the work for it. I also want to open up to new ways to make money, but the biggest problem is I don't have money to invest into it. Some programs cost $100 or more, and that is just something I do not have.
    Have you tried posting in the warriors for hire section? Highlighting these specific niches, that is. I'd imagine you could sell very high quality articles in your specialty niches for a premium price.

    You might have to leave investing into programs until you can generate better cash flow without any. That'll take some of the pressure off your shoulders if it takes you a while to find success with one. The last thing you want to do is sabotage your chances of success with a paid program by constantly thinking 'Please, this HAS to work...'. It will just distract you from achieving its potential.

    Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

    I love this site because of the abundance of information there is, but I find that I can't spend much time reading because i have to write a few articles in hopes of making a few bucks a week, and I have classes full-time, on top of two kids.
    Yeah, this site is pretty awesome. Especially that search function. I've spent days using it.

    Also, with such a packed schedule AND two kids, I have no idea how you keep it all together. So, congratulations on that.

    Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

    I find that charging $1 per 100 words seems to get me work, but I find that I have to work extra hard just to make what I need to make each week. Sooo, any tips to help a newbie out in the online world of making money?!
    I too am tempted to put up an article writing service but $1 per 100 words seems far too low because I'm kind of sensitive about my writing and I think I'd develop bad habits if I focused on a quantitative approach to my content. Not to mention, I'd have to write 3000 words a day just to make a measly 1000 bucks a month and I'm a VERY slow writer. If I was to ever set one up, it would be a specialized writing service and I'd charge much more than the average.

    I hope that helps. Don't know if it will because I've never been in your situation but I'm just offering an outsider's (and a newbie's) perspective. All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrelk159
    Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

    I am in a bit of a rut. I have been on this forum for a while now, and read, read, and read some more. A lot of the stuff I know already, but I find that I get a little bit of everything. People tell me to post on my blog, while others tell me not to. So, needless to say, my site sucks right now, LOL.

    Long story short, I go to school online full-time and REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, have a desire and passion to write or build a few affiliate sites. I want to write a few e-books and have one outlined already, just not sure if it'll sell since it seems everyone is touching on the topic.

    I want to write for a specific few niches, but not sure where to find the work for it. I also want to open up to new ways to make money, but the biggest problem is I don't have money to invest into it. Some programs cost $100 or more, and that is just something I do not have.

    I love this site because of the abundance of information there is, but I find that I can't spend much time reading because i have to write a few articles in hopes of making a few bucks a week, and I have classes full-time, on top of two kids.

    I find that charging $1 per 100 words seems to get me work, but I find that I have to work extra hard just to make what I need to make each week. Sooo, any tips to help a newbie out in the online world of making money?!
    I say writing content is a start in online income, it is the tip of the iceburg, there is still a lot more ways out there. I say the first thing you should do is make a website that promotes CPA offers or getting opt-ins for your solo ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshua Lowenthal
    This is a trend I am seeing more and more nowadays. We are so wound up and ready to jump into such a deep pool of possibility and promises that we tend to lose focus on the big picture. We eat so many appetizers that we can't eat our dinner.

    What I always like to instill into the inner minds of individuals who find themselves in this loop is step back and think about the value that is changing hands, just not going into their pockets.

    There is a theory that basically suggests that one of the strongest points in the ability to teach someone something, is found while learning said thing. May I suggest that you focus on learning skills that attribute to your own online success and then reteach it to newer members of the community.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

      I am in a bit of a rut. I have been on this forum for a while now, and read, read, and read some more. A lot of the stuff I know already, but I find that I get a little bit of everything. People tell me to post on my blog, while others tell me not to. So, needless to say, my site sucks right now, LOL.
      Stop reading willy-nilly. Instead, only read that which will help you achieve your goal faster.

      Long story short, I go to school online full-time and REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, have a desire and passion to write or build a few affiliate sites. I want to write a few e-books and have one outlined already, just not sure if it'll sell since it seems everyone is touching on the topic.
      Write out a plan for 2013. Set your goals and identify what you need to attain them. Identify the niches you have that passion in and list them out, then work on one at a time until they're all live.

      As to the ebook, who cares if someone else has covered it? You'll bring your unique perspective on the topic. Look at the library shelves on any given topic and you'll find dozens to hundreds of books. Do the facts change from one to another? No, of course not. What changes is the unique experiences and insights that an author brings to the topic.

      Think of it this way - what do you have to lose by completing it? I don't see a downside. You may sell less than you would like but if you don't finish it, you'll never sell a single copy, will you?

      I want to write for a specific few niches, but not sure where to find the work for it. I also want to open up to new ways to make money, but the biggest problem is I don't have money to invest into it. Some programs cost $100 or more, and that is just something I do not have.
      There are no new ways to make money. You make money by selling your products, selling other people's products or by earning advertising revenue. That's it. All the rest is just window dressing and most so-called new methods are short-term gimmicks.

      I find that charging $1 per 100 words seems to get me work, but I find that I have to work extra hard just to make what I need to make each week. Sooo, any tips to help a newbie out in the online world of making money?!
      This one's easy. Charge more and build a customer list. Even if you have to go with a free autoresponder for now, start getting your customers on a list so you can re-contact them. When times are slow for new orders, email your list of customers offering a special to get more work.

      If you can swing $20, post an ad in the Warrior for Hire section. Make sure you proof that ad extremely well as it's your first impression. Make sure you have some samples to show prospective customers, either that you can email or preferably up on a portfolio site (this can be a free Weebly page or a free blog for now).

      Charge at least double what you are now. As long as you can write decently in English, you'll get that rate with no problem. When your schedule fills to the point you have to turn customers away, increase your rate by another penny per word at least for new customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

    I am in a bit of a rut. I have been on this forum for a while now, and read, read, and read some more.
    Don't read any more stuff. Find one strategy that you like the most and put it into action.

    Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

    A lot of the stuff I know already, but I find that I get a little bit of everything. People tell me to post on my blog, while others tell me not to. So, needless to say, my site sucks right now, LOL.
    Blog everyday and don't stop. While you do this on daily basis without stop, some of your pages will rank on page 1 of Google and get you some free traffic for years.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagalog
      I agree with talfighel and would like to add that you must never give up.

      Look at it this way. If you were learning to drive a car, you would invest a lot of hard work and heartache.

      If you gave up, your life would not change, but if you refused to give up, you would eventually pass your driving test and have the open road to look forward to.

      Believe me, just being able to drive a car makes life much better, so keep at it and write your next post with a big smile on your face.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    Seriously you need to focus.

    Focus on one thing and don't stop until you start making decent money than add something else to your arsenal.

    It seems like you're spreading yourself out to thin maybe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    I don't know why someone would tell you not to post on your blog.

    If you put zero content out there, you will get zero reaction, right?

    Time to put the forum away and get started on one path of action. If you find you need help with a specific thing, then come back and learn about it. Otherwise, come back in a couple months.

    The information overload just about everyone experiences here is a dangerous thing. "Oh, what about this? I didn't think of that!" and then it's a week later and you've still done nothing.

    Write content about the things you like. Go to elance and get some writing work. There are some projects that pay OK. Or you could start calling local businesses (scary, I know) and asking them if they need any writing work done.

    You can do a lot better than $1 per 100 words. The key is to niche down, develop some content, and get the word out.
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  • Profile picture of the author wordsuwant
    Well, thanks for the tips everyone! I have found though that charging $2 per 100 words is not getting me ANY work.

    I do not have money for an auto-responder, and that is something that I know nothing about. Same goes for giving something away. That area just seems scary and I know nothing about it. I don't have any clients or contacts to get back in touch with to ask for work, so that just seems hard.

    I do plan on writing at least one post for each of my two blogs that I do have, and would like to learn more about promoting niche specific products on a site, but not sure how you can do that on a Wordpress blog. Is that possible?

    I do have a Warrior Forum Ad up but I can't figure out how to put the link for it in my signature. I tried one time but it didn't work at all lol I bumped it a few times but never got any hits off of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlinko
    After reading your thread and the responses I see one major problem: money!

    Remember that IM is a business. And any business, even a bootstrap operation, needs money.

    So if you're broke, get out there and hustle until you can afford the things you need to compete (like an autoresponder).

    Yes, you should focus as other said.

    But focus won't do anything unless you have the cash to do something with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author wordsuwant
    How does an autoresponder even work? is there a more affordable one as opposed to Aweber? And how do I build a list when no one will opt-in on my site? How do I make it work exactly when I don't get any traffic or have anything to offer for free for signing up? That whole thing, squeeze pages, and everything is Chinese to me! lol
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by wordsuwant View Post

      How does an autoresponder even work? is there a more affordable one as opposed to Aweber? And how do I build a list when no one will opt-in on my site? How do I make it work exactly when I don't get any traffic or have anything to offer for free for signing up? That whole thing, squeeze pages, and everything is Chinese to me! lol
      For the type of list mentioned above, you don't need an autoresponder. All you need is a mailing list, and most hosting accounts have them available as part of the hosting service.

      For building a list of clients, it's simple. Email them and ask if they would like to know if/when you might have openings and/or special promotions. If they say yes, add them to the list. If they say no (or nothing), don't. Unless you have thousands of clients, this will be a small list. A small list like this, along with some common sense practices, avoids the kind of problems third-party service providers like to hammer on.

      It's been years since I wrote for clients, but from what some of the active pros here say, when you raise your prices you tend to attract different clients (and better ones). At $1 per 100 words, you're attracting the bottom feeders looking for either bargains from writers who don't know what they're worth or bulk content where wrod count is more important than quality...
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Start your own site and start selling an ebook. I personally dont like the rate of $1 per 100 words. I feel you should charge more if your services are THAT good... feel me?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
      Put your rates in your ad and change that title, first of all. Your title tells me your cheap but then you don't give a rate inside. Many potential customers won't even ask for a rate.

      Spice up your ad a little - show me how well you can sell with words by selling me on YOU.

      What is the main benefit to someone who orders writing from you? If cheap is the best you can come up with, you will stay dissatisfied and constantly scrambling for new customers.

      That's just the top of my head stuff from reading your ad, but I think you'll find these things will make a big difference.
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    Lots of stuff. Stop and think. Out of everything you mentioned which do you want to do the most? Don't analyse it, just let it pop into your mind. Then put blinders on and do it. When you're finished let the good feelings of accomplishment carry you forward to the next level. Momentum, baby. It's how you start. Good luck.
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