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The Problem with Too Much Success on CB

by nicolasmd2112
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I was just thinking to myself...

There are a lot of products on ClickBank that are considered "Successful" and they are successful because they work, but at what point do they start to fall apart?

When i say fall apart, i mean stop working, because if we take a product on CB, for example, that shows people how to make money with Niche sites, and over 350 people a day are starting this new amazing program, then wouldn't it get overloaded? Flooded? Too many people trying to do the same thing will just make it harder and harder as more and more people join in. First it would start with a few hundred people, but then once it gets into the thousands, we have hundreds of people trying to rank #1 in search engines for the same product keywords, i assume that this would just ruin it for everyone because search engines like Google wouldn't waste anytime to kick niche sites to the bottom of their rankings, because their are so many of them....and yes, i am talking about GS-2.0.

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  • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
    Originally Posted by nicolasmd2112 View Post

    then wouldn't it get overloaded? Flooded? Too many people trying to do the same thing will just make it harder and harder as more and more people join in.
    You have to realize that many people simply do nothing more than buy a product, skim the material and leave it at that. There are also many who will try something and give up at the first sign of failure.

    It's like being in school. Everyone is there to learn the same thing, but each person will have a different interpretation of what is being taught. Everyone will apply it differently, too. Some will fail and others will succeed. Some will continue to take it to another level, while others won't.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRealRazzy
    yeah, very successful things that are sold get saturated pretty quick.

    It's hard to tell how long they will last. Some could last a week while others could last a couple months.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Nicolas, the key point for you to appreciate about "IM-niche" products on ClickBank is that if you promote them as an affiliate, it's very difficult indeed to get paid for many of the sales you manage to make: a significant proportion of those products' potential customers are already ClickBank affiliates themselves, and they're hardly going to buy the product through your hoplink when they can perfectly legally buy it through their own, are they? This is among the many, many reasons why it's such a bad and serious mistake for beginning marketers to start off in "IM niches".
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  • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
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    Yes. My theme in a couple three posts has been Zero Sum Game. A lot of IMing is precisely this.

    Too many people trying to do the same thing will just make it harder and harder as more and more people join in.
    You may care about this, but a lot of IMers don't. Why? Because they make their money off selling these systems, not implementing them, so a dream merchant cannot tell his/her clientele that. Further, so many of these systems are based upon gaming the system, like SERPS, so you are always doing battle against the PhDs that work at Google and the like that don't like the manipulation IMers engage in through things like PLR and crappy spun content, backlinking, etc.

    How many millions and millions of dollars have exchanged hands for techniques that are cheesy and spammy to begin with - and are no longer effective? Like article spinning and backlink building, etc. They are all schemes being bought and sold. And when one scheme dries up because of Google, et al, making a change to directly counteract what IMers are doing, the next scheme pops up.

    It is, indeed, a cycle.

    But that is okay. When one shiny object goes kaput, simply roll out the next new technique.

    You may understand that as competition increases, your profits will go down as well as your ability to be successful, but people selling these dreams don't. Anbd, unlike you, the people selling these things sure as hell won't tell you this. They don't care. They don't care that the richer they get selling their dream/scheme, the harder it will be for anyone implementing that scheme to make money.

    Not their concern. Their only concern is designing a squeeze page that will bypass your critical thought and hit straight to your impulsive emotions and coerce you to give them your money, impulsively, without much reflection, thought or research.

    Such is the life of a dream merchant ...

    Zero Sum game guys and gals. There is a finite amount of money to compete for everyday on the internet. The more people competing, the less there is to go around. Looking to the future? To the billions that have yet to get online? Forget about them - they don't have any money to spend, else they would already be online. The people on this planet in 2013 that have disposable income to spend on the things IMers sell are already online. The eventual end is very, very few people making a sh&tpot full of money and the vast, vast majority not making anything at all.

    Build yer Empire now boys and girls. 10 years from now, it will be much more difficult to gain a foothold in this industry - it will consolidate into fewer and fewer hands as time goes on, as will the money.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicolasmd2112
      Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

      [I]You may care about this, but a lot of IMers don't. Why? Because they make their money off selling these systems, not implementing them, so a dream merchant cannot tell his/her clientele that. Further, so many of these systems are based upon gaming the system, like SERPS, so you are always doing battle against the PhDs that work at Google and the like that don't like the manipulation IMers engage in through things like PLR and crappy spun content, backlinking, etc.
      When it comes down to it, i guess all successful products are like this. The first vendor to design a product that would never get saturated would be rich for the rest of their life, but that would never happen, lol, because everything is always improving and advancing, so with saturation also comes growth i suppose.
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  • Profile picture of the author CudaFish
    Everything said here so far is so true.

    The unfortunate truth is most people don't implement anything they learn, sad to say. And even if they do, they only do it half heartedly and give up a few months in.

    And besides, those "magic systems" don't work anyway. lol

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    • Profile picture of the author ancuta
      The problem is the same as in offline business. People look to things that work and try to mimic them to replicate the profit others are already making. And they're lucky if they barely cover their costs.

      In order to make profit an entrepreneur - offline or online, doesn't matter - should be innovative. She must come with something new, or do thing differently to surprise the potential buyers and give them reasons to buy.
      I know it sounds like pure theory, but this is the truth.

      All business that make really money have something special.

      That doesn't mean that you shouldn't start with an idea which is working for others. But think seriously how to improve it, how to do things better or how to please customers better.

      When you start from this perspective and you work hard to learn and apply the right online tools helping you to build your business, you'll have all chances to make money.

      With perseverance and patience...
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by nicolasmd2112 View Post

    I was just thinking to myself...

    There are a lot of products on ClickBank that are considered "Successful" and they are successful because they work, but at what point do they start to fall apart?

    When i say fall apart, i mean stop working, because if we take a product on CB, for example, that shows people how to make money with Niche sites, and over 350 people a day are starting this new amazing program, then wouldn't it get overloaded? Flooded? Too many people trying to do the same thing will just make it harder and harder as more and more people join in. First it would start with a few hundred people, but then once it gets into the thousands, we have hundreds of people trying to rank #1 in search engines for the same product keywords, i assume that this would just ruin it for everyone because search engines like Google wouldn't waste anytime to kick niche sites to the bottom of their rankings, because their are so many of them....and yes, i am talking about GS-2.0.

    The things that come to you while browsing the web....
    There is a product that came out a few years ago talking about writing reviews and then getting indexed on page 1 of Google. I am not going to name any names here because I know that they don't deserve any free exposure here in the forum.

    When it first came out and no one knew about this free traffic strategy, a few people made a lot of money in a matter of a short time and still do.

    Today, people still buy that product and we now have more competition for product reviews then ever before.

    As long as it is up there online, people will buy it again and again.
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