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Don't use Wordpress Ver 3.5

by techservice
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The latest version of WP is full of bugs. Don't use it.

I'm not going to list the bugs but it's caused havoc with some of my sites and I'm having to back pedal to Ver. 3.4
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    I am not having problems, what theme are you using
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    • Profile picture of the author techservice
      I'm using a themewarrior theme. Dont think this should be a problem.
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      • Profile picture of the author evilsaigon
        Originally Posted by Tom Bartlett View Post

        I'm using a themewarrior theme. Dont think this should be a problem.
        Heys, I'm a Warriortheme user too! I straightaway used Wordpress 3.5 when I started using this theme, and yes it's been very buggy. A lot of customization options aren't working in particular.

        Warriortheme support team told me their head programmer is back on Jan 4, but I have yet to hear an update from them since then... Still waiting for them to reply me.

        I'm considering whether I should downgrade wordpress.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsouravs
    WP 3.5 slowed my sites tremendously.... May be you are right........
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Thanks for the heads up. How long has the latest version been out for?
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  • Profile picture of the author sladex
    Yes, site soooo slow after update, and even google webmaster tool says that my site is offline, but the other site that I haven't updated is fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author wfhblueprints
    Originally Posted by Tom Bartlett View Post

    The latest version of WP is full of bugs. Don't use it.

    I'm not going to list the bugs but it's caused havoc with some of my sites and I'm having to back pedal to Ver. 3.4
    I stupidly updated my site up to WP 3.5 a couple of days ago and BOY did that screw me over....

    Spent a couple of hours rolling the site back to Version 3.4 as a result.

    Those of you on a Hostgator plan might want to check if you have auto updates on for your hosting plan....one of my clients had signed up to automatic wordpress updates when he installed his blog and it automatically installed V3.5.

    Needless to say that he had to roll that back to 3.4.... but check because your sites may be auto updating to 3.5 as you read this....
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  • Profile picture of the author thedog
    Thanks for the heads up!
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperKristen
    I haven't updated my main site's yet because I noticed those problems in my test sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
    Originally Posted by Tom Bartlett View Post

    The latest version of WP is full of bugs. Don't use it.

    I'm not going to list the bugs but it's caused havoc with some of my sites and I'm having to back pedal to Ver. 3.4
    I tried to update my wordpress but couldn't do so because of some internet connection problem. Now I think, it happened for good. :
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick
    LOL... Full of bugs ? What bugs ?
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  • Profile picture of the author rohit36
    There is no problem with Wp version 5 its just your theme is not updated.. I haven't seen any problem ... all the normal wp themes working fine as well as optimized press...

    contact your theme developer
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  • Profile picture of the author reboot38
    This is yet another reason not to overcomplicate your sites. For most of my sites, I don't run any plugins at all. I also don't use complicated themes. Simple is always best.
    ^^ Words to live by...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    Some newer themes will work fine with the latest WordPress update but a lot of older themes will not, and it will create total havoc on your website. I really hope that WP finds a way to fix this since so many people are being affected.
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  • Profile picture of the author edd666666
    It messed up one of my blogs so badly, I ended up bandaging it and starting over, no one could ever figure out what the issue was other than the upgrade. Removing all the plug ins did not solve the issue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    All works good for me :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Roslyn Agosta
    Yeah, I also encountered problems with the new 3.5, loads of my plugins messed up. So I reverted back to 3.4.2
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  • Profile picture of the author Robbo5000
    I can't say I've had any problems running the new ver of WordPress on one of my blogs but I can definitely say it's been slow.

    I have just moved the site over to a different server though so I put it down to that but I did expect the new server to be quite a bit faster.

    This is a worry.
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveSRS
      Originally Posted by Robbo5000 View Post

      I can't say I've had any problems running the new ver of WordPress on one of my blogs but I can definitely say it's been slow.

      I have just moved the site over to a different server though so I put it down to that but I did expect the new server to be quite a bit faster.

      This is a worry.
      I had the same problem. Disabling some apps and even reinstalling some finally helped getting speed back.. not sure what exactly helped in the end...

      However I still feel it is indeed slower.. I've been doing debug with some plugin and it seems it is calling 'gettext' function which is a slow function the weird thing is that that blog is not being translated at all just pure English everything and in my believe (haven't looked into it deeply) that function should only be used for translating.. however perhaps they are now also using it for just straight up retrieving texts in English language..
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  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    Thanks for looking out man! I hadn't upgraded and now i'm glad i haven't..

    Best of luck,

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  • Profile picture of the author JackieGold
    I've already upgraded several sites to 3.5 and haven't noticed any bugs or speed issues. I suspect it is very theme & plugin dependent.
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  • Profile picture of the author arranrice
    Yes, problems are theme and plugin dependent.

    I had to downgrade my site to wordpress 3.4, its not that hard, for anyone wanting to downgrade due to bugs, I think I used this tutorial: (it was a few days ago)

    Wordpress Problems: How To Downgrade Wordpress 3.5

    Basically you need to delete every wordpress file apart from the wp-content file, then replace the deleted files with the wp 3.4 files.
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  • Profile picture of the author TroyCo
    WP update is working great for me! contact your theme developer to ask when they will be doing an update if it is not working properly
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  • Profile picture of the author Vincent Abrugar
    I didn't have a problem with Wordpress 3.5 so far works good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

      I've had no problems. You can't blame WP if your themes and plugins are incompatible.

      This is yet another reason not to overcomplicate your sites. For most of my sites, I don't run any plugins at all. I also don't use complicated themes. Simple is always best.
      Yes.

      I really wasn't that complicated - only had 6 plugins installed - and still had issues.

      Two plugins I thought were not working were actually fine after I got rid of a different one. I spent hours today going nuts - you don't want to know.

      Anyway, those of you choosing to peddle backward - I wish you luck.

      The main wordpress install will be going forward - not backward on this one.

      I have a feeling this picture is going to get really ugly for some people in the next few months who have become reliant on free or unsupported plugins and themes.

      I can't even imagine those who have like 20 different plugins installed, lol

      Oh - and don't think you can just disable the plugins. You have to actually remove them completely to get the ones that are compliant working again.

      All it takes is just ONE bad plugin to screw up your good plugins and mess up the functions within this new version such as trying to insert links or updates posts.

      My recommendation? Prepare now to upgrade - because you know at some point the old version will become vulnerable.

      Set up a test site, examine your plugins one by one, mix and match them up, and you'll eventually spot the bad eggs.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashloren
    This is part of why I think Wordpress sucks. Wouldn't it be easier to just have some part of a website in php so that it could be dynamic and you could post to a blog, but the rest of the site could simply be done in good old fashioned HTML? Wouldn't that be better than having a whole site built on Wordpress?

    Is there any paid alternative that doesn't come with the constant updates and BS that opensource options like Wordpress come with? Does anyone know of something better?
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  • Profile picture of the author yogee2
    Yeah, I notice my site slowed a bit on ver 3.5. Thanks for the heads up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    After creating a "Clone" site I upgrade to WP 3.5 and did not have any problems, so I upgraded the "Live" site and boom.. lots of very peculiar problems.

    Side note: The sites are on two different hosts (servers). The Live Site is on Host A and the Cloned Site on Host B. There are no major differences in settings between the two servers, so I was a little stumped from the start and I am a Server Admin by profession.

    My problems were:

    1) I was able to create pages and posts, but the destination URL returned error 404.

    This is usually because of what is called a conflict with the: rewrite rule. This can be server side or wordpress side.

    2) One of the third party applications, CBengine, locked down the admin widgets panel.

    CBengine problem that should be fixed soon with an update, but I found a work-around.

    [My Solution]
    This may not be the cause of everyone's issues, but my own issue pertained to my file: .htaccess

    So we are on the same base.. the .htaccess file is created by WP. The file has a set of rules and conditions that literally makes WP work.

    What happened was my .htaccess file on the Clone Site was not modified by the WP 3.5 upgrade because I run a custom .htaccess file that is strengthen with code wherein nothing can modify it except for me doing it manually. Hence, the Clone Site worked perfectly.

    Before upgrading the Live Site I did in fact remove my custom .htaccess file and replaced it with the default WP .htaccess file. Long story short.. this is part of the process when creating a custom .htaccess file.

    In any event I got it all working perfectly in under 30 minutes.

    What may help some of you that have issues and save you some time is to rewrite your .htaccess file with a new copy. Rewrite it at the server level, either with Cpane File Manager or an FTP Client that allows you to edit files on the server.

    If you still have problems with pages/posts/404 simply mark out the Rewrite Base like this:
    Code:
    #RewriteBase /
    After marking out the Rewrite, check to see if you can create pages, posts without error. If yes, then the .htaccess file is... Corrupt! Simply create a new one (Server Side as explained above) and if that does not work.. contact your host and ask them to do it for you from their side.

    Jeffery 100% :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author The Leo
      I am a webmaster for atleast 6 years and it is my recommendation to everyone to backup their site before they upgrade.

      And it is obvious that you have to and should upgrade to the new version of WordPress as soon as possible. If your theme is not compatible then ask the theme developer or take some help.

      It is my saying too- do not blame WP for incompatible theme or plugin. try to minimise the use of plugin if you can.
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      • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
        Originally Posted by The Leo View Post

        I am a webmaster for atleast 6 years and it is my recommendation to everyone to backup their site before they upgrade.

        And it is obvious that you have to and should upgrade to the new version of WordPress as soon as possible. If your theme is not compatible then ask the theme developer or take some help.

        It is my saying too- do not blame WP for incompatible theme or plugin. try to minimise the use of plugin if you can.
        This, a million times this!
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  • Profile picture of the author ronorr
    I use a service that is built on wordpress so I hope that they fix it before they do a global update for all the thousands of members. Thanks for the heads up
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeac
    I've updated all if my sites and I haven't experienced any problems .(knock on wood)
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  • Profile picture of the author anandshaw
    I have updated Wordpress 3.5 so far all is good. I do agree that it does look a bit slow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    Each time a new version of Wordpress comes out, here is what I do.

    1. Wait 2 to 3 weeks.
    2. Write down the theme and plugins I use on a site.
    3. Visit forums for the theme and each plugin and see if anyone had a problem.
    4. If no problems found with the theme or plugins I go to the next step.
    5. Backup the site.
    6. Install the new version of Wordpress.
    7. Update the theme and plugins if needed.
    8. Start using the site as usual.

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    • Profile picture of the author satrap
      I usually wait a while after a new update comes out. But this time I didn't, and now my site is slower, and the post schedule function doesn't work anymore (it m just misses posting on when scheduled).

      I think I am going to have to downgrade. Though, they are usually quick to fix any bugs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    It's been close to a month since I upgraded and I still haven't found a way to get one of my sites to come up right away.... it takes about 45 seconds to do so. I have no plug ins, I changed themes, and it is still a mess.

    I was hoping for a 3.5.1 upgrade soon but there hasn't even been word of such thing.

    Again, some of my sites work fine while others are a complete mess. I know the issues pertain to themes, yet I never had such a serious problem with themes and wordpress until now.

    I am currently looking to see what other options there are besides WP.
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  • Profile picture of the author JST3P
    I updated as soon as the update was out, running 3 domains, 2 different themes, and 3 plugins on each site and no issues.

    It's all the non-WP addons that have not been upgraded themselves to be compatible with the new version that's the problem, not WP.

    If you go browse the themes on offer, most STILL say they haven't been tested with 3.5
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  • Profile picture of the author drbrucehoag
    We have some sites in 3.4, and I just started a new one in 3.5; so I can't comment on the upgrade problems.

    But, just a moment ago, I couldn't get the site to load, or only to load very slowly. It turned out that my host is having server problems.

    And so it occurred to me that if you have installed WP through your host, that you might check with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author ajbarnes777
    I'm glad I saw this! I spent a total of 3 1/2 hours over the past week chatting with Hostgator trying to find out why my sites weren't loading. Then I spent another SEVERAL hours deactivating/reactivating plugins, changing themes, drinking bourbon , and pulling my hair out trying to find the problem!

    All this time it had to do with the new version of WP!

    Oh well, being in this business, tech problems are sure to happen from time to time!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    Hi Warriors,

    My experince does not match to OP's situation.
    I have many sites upgraded to 3.5 and really love the new version.
    It did not slow any site, or found any bug!!!

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author Roey Pimentel
    I recently updated to v.3.5 and some of my sites went slow, and others are fine; not sure what to make of that...
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    • Profile picture of the author stfu0
      Mine was super slow when I installed 3.5. Glad it's not just me
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  • Profile picture of the author bpxaff
    I updated most of my sites to 3.5 last week - only a couple of themes that were oudated had some issues - otherwise works fine. Is there a way to roll back WP to previous versions?
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill_Z
      Originally Posted by bpxaff View Post

      I updated most of my sites to 3.5 last week - only a couple of themes that were oudated had some issues - otherwise works fine. Is there a way to roll back WP to previous versions?
      Scroll up to post #42.
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      • Profile picture of the author VoiceMedia
        I've had issues too and know others who have. Mainly with the plug-ins which may have to be updated. Also with scheduled posts, I have found that any links within posts that are scheduled to be posted at a later date don't work and i have to go back and fix them. I read an article today about all the WordPress 3.5 issues (this is an unbiased link!)
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      • Profile picture of the author Numatik
        Yep I have also noticed strange things going on in my WP-admin and my site is slower loading.
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    Wordpress is in reverse gear now (aka state of denial).
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    • Profile picture of the author Tony Marriott
      Originally Posted by professorrosado View Post

      I recommend that you always have a test copy of your sites made before updating and update only your back up site, test it, and then update your live sites.

      With so many resource intensive themes, mods and plugins, you cannot tell what any single update will do to your website. I've had many customers calling for help after an update. Never update without checking the outcome on a backup test site.

      If you are serious about your WP site / business - a back up test site should be a "must"!
      The best advice so far in this thread.

      FACT: Any update to any software has the potential to break your existing work reliant on that software. WordPress is no different.

      Actually as WordPress is never used "out of the box" then the infinite variations of plugins, themes customization and content means that is probably impossible to update it and all WordPress sites stay unaffected.

      In practice the vast majority will have no problems but a minority will have problems.

      You have to assume you will be one of teh minority.

      1. Ensure you have a full backup. Have a fall back option if all else fails.
      2. Have at least one test site with all your plugins installed (more if you have a lot of sites or a lot of different configurations). Update your test sites first to find any obvious issues.


      Originally Posted by evilsaigon View Post

      Heys, I'm a Warriortheme user too! I straightaway used Wordpress 3.5 when I started using this theme, and yes it's been very buggy. A lot of customization options aren't working in particular.

      Warriortheme support team told me their head programmer is back on Jan 4, but I have yet to hear an update from them since then... Still waiting for them to reply me.

      I'm considering whether I should downgrade wordpress.
      You may be saying more about the theme than about WordPress. WordPress cannot possibly take into account every nuance of every theme when improving the core software. It is up to the theme and plugins developers to keep up, not for WordPress to limit it's development.

      All WordPress updates are available as betas before they are released and that is an opportunity for developers to test there software with the new versions before updates are released.

      Of course nothing is 100% guaranteed hence the advice above.

      Originally Posted by ashloren View Post

      This is part of why I think Wordpress sucks. Wouldn't it be easier to just have some part of a website in php so that it could be dynamic and you could post to a blog, but the rest of the site could simply be done in good old fashioned HTML? Wouldn't that be better than having a whole site built on Wordpress?

      Is there any paid alternative that doesn't come with the constant updates and BS that opensource options like Wordpress come with? Does anyone know of something better?
      I can't agree that "WordPress sucks". Millions of people have great experiences with WordPress. Many make their entire living from it in one way or another. It is probably the simplest way to get a professional looking, unique website up and running for those that have little or no experience. It is sophisticated and versatile enough to suite almost all purposes from a simple blogging platform to membership sites, to, well pretty much anything using a CMS.

      You also hit the nail on the head. It's open source, so it's free. It gets constant updates because it is continually developed and supported.

      If you want a lot of static content on your website then there are loads of Web editor type software around Dreamweaver or Xsite Pro for example. Create your main pages with that and use WordPress just for the blog posts.

      Or a quick Google search for "simple blog posting php scripts" seems to return a lot of options.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    I love me some WordPress 3.5
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  • Profile picture of the author globalwritersdirect
    I had a problem with my WP after updating it to 3.5. All pages are redirecting to 404. Home page, and dashboard were not affected. No issues with speed though.

    After two days, I was able to fix it. Good thing, I have google analytics.
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  • Profile picture of the author raja142
    After the upgrade, one of the site was giving 404 error. I flagged a change in permanent link and Now it's working fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author ngademarco4
    I upgraded to 3.5 and everything is working perfectly... it's probably just your theme and plugins that need to be updated...
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  • Profile picture of the author Auctiondebteliminator
    If your site is slow download the plugin WP Quick Cache

    It will speed up your site no matter the version....(It'll help out the bounce rate too-- an added bonus -- if you have slow load times!)

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    • Profile picture of the author Numatik
      Originally Posted by Auctiondebteliminator View Post

      If your site is slow download the plugin WP Quick Cache

      It will speed up your site no matter the version....(It'll help out the bounce rate too-- an added bonus -- if you have slow load times!)

      ADE

      Funny... I did this today with that exact plug in. It did help and I am hoping it will bring down my bounce rate!!
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  • Profile picture of the author msu
    Not had any problems with my sites. Hadn't even heard of this problem until I read this thread. Sounds more like incompatibility issues with themes or plugins that should have been updated in time for 3.5 - especially if they're premium versions.
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    thanks for the heads up i hate chats with support.
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  • Profile picture of the author James_Harkin
    I find it interesting people automatically upgrade their Wordpress to the latest edition knowing that there will still be bugs in it. I wait at least 2-3 months before upgrading, so that the majority of release bugs are removed.

    I learned this from using Microsoft Windows ... every time they release software its full of bugs and takes a year before the major ones are removed. I feel sorry for those who are already upgrading to Windows 8 ... when I only just upgraded to Windows 7 lol...

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