Let's be completely honest with each other...

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Hello there! Thank you very much for reading this.

My name is Max "MaxTheMarketer" K and I am young Internet Marketer from Sweden who was introduced to the fascinating world of Internet Marketing several years ago from a friend of mine who currently lives in the US now (he is also Swedish).

He gave me tons of free stuff to go through when I was introduced to this world and one thing I learned was that the best way to make money online is NOT focusing on making the money as priority one, but focusing on WHAT and HOW you can help people with things.

When you actually can help people with something (even if this means being the medium between the person and someone else product such as in affiliate marketing) that is when people really want to throw their money at you.

What I am curious to know is how many people here who is ONLY interested in making money and who wouldn't give a time of their life of what they are actually selling is helping or not helping their customers?

(I understand that this question might not be answered honestly as it may affect your reputation here if you state "you're only in it for the money")

Personally, I only see money as a vehicle to survive and do fun things, to be able to travel so you can see new things and people, but that's it. Money itself does not make anyone happier than the average earner who is just getting by each month, just ask any true millionaire if they wake up each morning with the same feeling as someone who just won the lottery!

I experience more satisfaction in receiving success-stories from people who has bought and applied (which I make my best attempts in making sure that they do) my products rather than knowing that I have destroyed 1000s of people's lives by selling them a piece of dog-poop inside a box (IOW, a product that does not work).

HOWEVER! I can admit that when I first got into IM several years ago, my focus was ONLY on the money, "where's the money?", "how do I make money?", "how do I make a quick buck?" etc.,.

The material I went through though taught me that it was the WRONG mindset for marketing in general. As I love to say, "Don't try to sell sand in the Sahara Desert, sell jackets on the North Pole!".

This means that you should focus on selling something people actually benefit from than just a social hype about the benefit you will get but then you never really get them because the product/service is flawed due to the reality of things.

I guess what I am really trying to get started with this post is the discussion about honest intentions in Internet Marketing. Because as more people use a "scammers"-mindset for Internet Marketing, the harder it makes for people who are genuinely interested in making money BY HELPING PEOPLE, not just by any means necessary.

Finally, I understand the statement that might arise, "Well, you cannot please everyone and some people will just not be able to use your product because of low IQ, pessimism or whatever".

View your customers for what they really are, living human beings not "leads", "traffic", "conversions". And I know, I know! This is just simple terminology for communication between us marketers.

But I think these words is kinda creepy to use just like the words in the so called "seduction community" (I sell dating advice for men and I have been a part of this community, but are no longer, many years ago when I myself was struggling with the opposite sex) are where women are viewed as "targets" or "sets" or "HBs" (hot babes).

In both instances, you are objectifying living beings which makes it easier for you to treat them as such and make what otherwise would be viewed as unethical or just pure evil, mean or distasteful.

When you talk about people as objects (leads, HBs, etc.,) it is easier to treat them as such which is NOT a good long-term strategy. Now, I am NOT pointing at one here in particular, I just suggest people change mindset if they are "only in it for the money" and nothing else (such as making money BY HELPING PEOPLE).

Thank you very much for reading such a long post. Feel free to troll, start a flame war or contribute your reply in any way, shape or form as you please! ^^,

Take Care & Have An Awesome Weekend, Dear Reader! / Max "MaxTheMarketer" K.
#completely #ethics #honest #marketing #maxthemarketer #mlm
  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    I'll level with you, Max. When I see/hear someone say "let's be completely honest here", my radar starts humming. I know that that phrase is usually followed by a pack of lies in a marketing situation.

    The good news is that I don't get that vibe from you.

    I tend to put the 'anything to get the money' people into two camps. Those desperate for money because they have none, and those amoral sociopaths who would pimp their grandmothers if there was a buck in it.

    There's hope for the desperate. For the sociopaths, there's always euthanasia.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    "Don't try to sell sand in the Sahara Desert, sell jackets on the North Pole!" Words to live by! Too many would rather say things like "He could sell ice to an eskimo!"!

    Frankly a lot of people sell IM advice claiming some special secret, etc.... To call the customers that can't use it stupid is often essentially making themselves out to be liars or stupid, yet you see it happen.

    And it is amazing how many obvious mistakes some make. Just last friday someone tried to sell me something. They wanted me to enter the SAME information THREE TIMES! I thought STUPID, but I thought there could be potential, and it DOES look like good info. Well, when it asked for the second entry, I got upset, and someone else got tired of it TOO!!!!!! On the third one, my card was declined, and I had to use another card.

    So WHO got tired of it? And WHY was my card declined? The BANK figured it had to be fraud, and sent me an email to approve the charge, on the second one. On the third, they just declined it.

    And some people say you SHOULD sell in that way!

    Anyway, on my sites, I had some that were purely information. My first site was just pure info. I wish I had it so easy when I started. I have been sidetracked too much, but I am planning on creating another site that will help on some of this stuff, and a lot of THAT stuff will be free.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    "Don't try to sell sand in the Sahara Desert, sell jackets on the North Pole!" Words to live by! Too many would rather say things like "He could sell ice to an eskimo!"!

    Frankly a lot of people sell IM advice claiming some special secret, etc.... To call the customers that can't use it stupid is often essentially making themselves out to be liars or stupid, yet you see it happen.

    And it is amazing how many obvious mistakes some make. Just last friday someone tried to sell me something. They wanted me to enter the SAME information THREE TIMES! I thought STUPID, but I thought there could be potential, and it DOES look like good info. Well, when it asked for the second entry, I got upset, and someone else got tired of it TOO!!!!!! On the third one, my card was declined, and I had to use another card.

    So WHO got tired of it? And WHY was my card declined? The BANK figured it had to be fraud, and sent me an email to approve the charge, on the second one. On the third, they just declined it.

    And some people say you SHOULD sell in that way!

    Anyway, on my sites, I had some that were purely information. My first site was just pure info. I wish I had it so easy when I started. I have been sidetracked too much, but I am planning on creating another site that will help on some of this stuff, and a lot of THAT stuff will be free.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author napoleonfirst
    All that crap of not focusing on the money makes me sick, and io am tired of that. You need to learn this business here at the WF, you have to interact with the community and pay for your education using coaches, getting tools and so on. But you need to be focused on making the money, the money.
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    I think most people realise that offering value is the key to getting happy customers. But there is always going to be someone trying to take advantage of people, that's just part of life, eg my bank charges me 20% interest on my credit card. Now that sure seems like a scam.

    "Personally, I only see money as a vehicle to survive and do fun things, to be able to travel so you can see new things and people, but that's it."

    That's what I thought too when I was younger. But in reality you probably need to make a few million dollars if you want a reasonably comfortable long life in the west.


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  • Profile picture of the author BeauJustin
    If you do not have a vision for WHY you are doing this business,
    then you do not have a reason to BE in this business. Money is
    a crappy motive, because when it runs out, or doesn't come fast
    enough, you'll find yourself discouraged, and depressed that all the
    10K/month@10/min./day scams lied, and you fell for it.

    Money is the end result of a well-executed vision. If you do not
    have a vision for you business yet, then you have no idea where
    you are heading, and thus no idea how to get there.

    Good motives create enthusiasm and motivation.

    Bad motives are unsustainable. It will generate disappointment and
    eventual failure.

    Bad motives are things like:
    • I'm unemployed, and need more money.
    • I hate my boss, and where I work.
    • I want more freedom to be an amateur surfer, and being an
      entrepreneur is the only way to do that.
    • I want the freedom to set my own hours, and days I work.
    • I want to get rich.

    Max, I'm glad you found a better motive for business than money.

    Anyone who is offended by my post. Sorry I didn't blow smoke up
    your butt. This is the business of marketing. It is just like any other
    business. If you do not have good motivation and vision for doing
    this then you'll just be one of the 95% of all entrepreneurs in ALL
    businesses that fail within the first five years of business.

    Furthermore, I'm not trying to discourage anyone, either. Just
    because you don't have vision now, doesn't mean you can't get
    one. Max certainly did, and good on him for it.
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