List Building goodness! Whats Your Success?

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Hello guys, as I am in the process of building my list. Right now not having made a dime, I have 90 or so people and I have a 400 click solo ad coming up, I want to know how has your list been doing? How was making money from having a list start out? Did you make anything in the first couple months? Was it profit? How about the enjoyment of having those leads come in and not have to worry about anything because of a good followup, and funnel? Anything you want to say about having a list, making a good followup series, any advice please do tell, I want to read it all lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author redexclub
    well, keep it up. and remember: more traffic means more money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
      Originally Posted by redexclub View Post

      well, keep it up. and remember: more traffic means more money.
      Actually, it's high quality traffic = more money and low quality traffic = waste of money. Make sure the traffic you're buying is fresh. You need fresh, interested leads to generate sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
        Originally Posted by Ben Gordon View Post

        Actually, it's high quality traffic = more money and low quality traffic = waste of money. Make sure the traffic you're buying is fresh. You need fresh, interested leads to generate sales.
        Thanks I just set up a ppc campaign for yahoo, and im going to wait a little bit and research some more before I start it and put a payment option lol. So hopefully with ppc i will get a decent amount of fresh leads every month
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        • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
          Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

          Thanks I just set up a ppc campaign for yahoo, and im going to wait a little bit and research some more before I start it and put a payment option lol. So hopefully with ppc i will get a decent amount of fresh leads every month
          PPC is the way to go and Yahoo is definitely a very profitable and undervalued PPC traffic source. I've been banking from it for over a year now... one of the best decisions I ever made. Frank Kern loves it too and he switched Adwords for Adcenter. Means we're doing something right
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          • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
            Originally Posted by Ben Gordon View Post

            PPC is the way to go and Yahoo is definitely a very profitable and undervalued PPC traffic source. I've been banking from it for over a year now... one of the best decisions I ever made. Frank Kern loves it too and he switched Adwords for Adcenter. Means we're doing something right
            Hey Ben, are you seeing better quality opt ins and or lower CPC on Adcenter?

            What are the benefits you're seeing?

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            • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
              Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

              Hey Ben, are you seeing better quality opt ins and or lower CPC on Adcenter?

              What are the benefits you're seeing?

              Patrick
              Quality isn't a lot better (about the same) but CPC is definitely a lot lower. You have so much competition on Adwords because it's where everyone goes to for traffic. While Yahoo is sort of more unheard of and not used by too many marketers -- usually only used by major companies -- which results in low competition and low CPC
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          • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
            Originally Posted by Ben Gordon View Post

            PPC is the way to go and Yahoo is definitely a very profitable and undervalued PPC traffic source. I've been banking from it for over a year now... one of the best decisions I ever made. Frank Kern loves it too and he switched Adwords for Adcenter. Means we're doing something right
            Sounds good!
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    I don't have a high regard for solo ads from the information I know. My first goal has always been to produce something worthwhile, so much so that people who see it for the first time will be likely to come back again. When you send out to lists and people are not responding positively, stop! Go back and think about quality.

    If your only goal is solo ad sales, this is likely to be a difficult road. However, building quality over a longer period of time (years) will be SO much more worth it.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by dvduval View Post

      I don't have a high regard for solo ads from the information I know. My first goal has always been to produce something worthwhile, so much so that people who see it for the first time will be likely to come back again. When you send out to lists and people are not responding positively, stop! Go back and think about quality.

      If your only goal is solo ad sales, this is likely to be a difficult road. However, building quality over a longer period of time (years) will be SO much more worth it.
      I mean i think solo ads especially depending on the person who owns the list could be a really good source of quality leads, but in the future i might want to make an authority site that could get leads from google. but even then Im not too sure those will be just as high or better quality than a really good solo ad seller. But I'm new to list building so yea loll
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I made my first dollar with List Building pretty fast since I had an OTO with my squeeze page and it took my funnel about 6 months before I was able to make a living off it.

    You may not really see results until you begin to hit 2000+ subs and it will happen much later in your sales funnel around 2-3 months down the line or more.

    Make sure to provide good and relevant offers along with tips and freebies. Also make sure to respond to your subscriber's emails since they will be your long term customers.

    I've been using solo ads from reputable sellers and it's been working great for me, but I'm also branching out into other ways of getting traffic like forum marketing, social media, and most important (where the BIG money is), product creation.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by rmolina88 View Post

      I made my first dollar with List Building pretty fast since I had an OTO with my squeeze page and it took my funnel about 6 months before I was able to make a living off it.

      You may not really see results until you begin to hit 2000+ subs and it will happen much later in your sales funnel around 2-3 months down the line or more.

      Make sure to provide good and relevant offers along with tips and freebies. Also make sure to respond to your subscriber's emails since they will be your long term customers.

      I've been using solo ads from reputable sellers and it's been working great for me, but I'm also branching out into other ways of getting traffic like forum marketing, social media, and most important (where the BIG money is), product creation.
      Damn 2000 subs seem like 4 or 6 months away from now with only solos.. At the moment I have like a prebuilt squeeze page with OTO set up from the product chronic profits and so far i have been writing my followup messages except a couple which i rewrote from chronic profits and im trying to have at least 30 follow ups with at least 10 to 14 promotional. I really don't have any bills to pay other than awaber and Im trying to make enough residual income to pay a down payment on a car i want lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
    If you are buying from a reputable person's BUYER'S list, you should be able to make money if you have a decent funnel set up and a good auto-responder series in place. However, if you are just getting rehashed freebie seekers, you aren't going to make any money. You may be able to use your newly built list to do ad swaps and continue to build (at no cost). The key is a buyer's list. I built a 900 person list through CPC and solo ads and made less than $100 from my list in about a year before I learned my lesson on seeking out a buyer's list.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by jdooley13 View Post

      If you are buying from a reputable person's BUYER'S list, you should be able to make money if you have a decent funnel set up and a good auto-responder series in place. However, if you are just getting rehashed freebie seekers, you aren't going to make any money. You may be able to use your newly built list to do ad swaps and continue to build (at no cost). The key is a buyer's list. I built a 900 person list through CPC and solo ads and made less than $100 from my list in about a year before I learned my lesson on seeking out a buyer's list.
      Very Interesting, I'm trying to get most of my solos from safe swaps, and there a quite a few there that mention they have a list full of buyers. As soon as i can I will also try ad swaps as it does not cost money but i do need to have a list. So i will definitely save up for quality solos over quantity.
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    • Profile picture of the author TerranceCharles
      Good direction. Get your list up to about 1k with solo ads, but make sure that you do have some back-end products that are "Instant Payment" through paypal so you can cut your cost down.

      When your list is around 1k, you can do some 100k click adswaps. However, don't strain your list by doing too much adswaps, swap with only reputable partners that can actually drive clicks, don't worry about list size, worry about clicks.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
        Originally Posted by TerranceCharles View Post

        Good direction. Get your list up to about 1k with solo ads, but make sure that you do have some back-end products that are "Instant Payment" through paypal so you can cut your cost down.

        When your list is around 1k, you can do some 100k click adswaps. However, don't strain your list by doing too much adswaps, swap with only reputable partners that can actually drive clicks, don't worry about list size, worry about clicks.
        Thanks for the advice man, I will probably do some adswaps down the road, I just don't want the quality of my list to go down if it does. Having those kinds of products with instant payment definitely seems like a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
    You need to start with a small test solo. If it works out, then order more. I bought a small one last week from a new vendor (new to me and relatively new to safe-swaps) who had a good rating but more than half of the clicks resulted in me being spammed by the person who clicked link in my solo ad. I only bought 40 clicks but I got 20+ spam IM message back to my email address from these people. Won't be using that vendor again.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I've been list building from the very beginning (6 years ago next month)

    I made close to $300 my very first week, and almost $3,000 my very first month online, since then my sales have more than doubled every single year.

    If you doing list building right it should start to produce you money right away not in months, you should be giving them great value right from the beginning and also making offers right from the beginning.

    I also use to hate solo ads, but now I love them, just like anything there is a right way to use them and a wrong way. I recently turned $390 into $3,540 with about 10 solo ads.

    I have a very powerful sales process that helps them with their problems that is the number one most important part, then lowers their defenses, builds trust, then I make an offer.

    my list earns me very good money, but I also understand they are not just a list, they are real people who are having problems who are coming to me for help. I help them with those problems before they even see an offer, I continue to help them even more, so when it's time to make the offer usually about every 2 weeks, the conversions are though the roof, and they are very happy with the purchase they made
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      I've been list building from the very beginning (6 years ago next month)

      I made close to $300 my very first week, and almost $3,000 my very first month online, since then my sales have more than doubled every single year.

      If you doing list building right it should start to produce you money right away not in months, you should be giving them great value right from the beginning and also making offers right from the beginning.

      I also use to hate solo ads, but now I love them, just like anything there is a right way to use them and a wrong way. I recently turned $390 into $3,540 with about 10 solo ads.

      I have a very powerful sales process that helps them with their problems that is the number one most important part, then lowers their defenses, builds trust, then I make an offer.

      my list earns me very good money, but I also understand they are not just a list, they are real people who are having problems who are coming to me for help. I help them with those problems before they even see an offer, I continue to help them even more, so when it's time to make the offer usually about every 2 weeks, the conversions are though the roof, and they are very happy with the purchase they made
      That is just incredible, looks like I need some major lessons in providing huge value, seriously 3000 in your first month? where did you get your traffic when you first started? and after the second freebie, In the third followup i recommend a product, is that too soon? Well I'm trying my best and I am improving as i go!
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    • Profile picture of the author MathewMaso
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      I've been list building from the very beginning (6 years ago next month)

      I made close to $300 my very first week, and almost $3,000 my very first month online, since then my sales have more than doubled every single year.

      If you doing list building right it should start to produce you money right away not in months, you should be giving them great value right from the beginning and also making offers right from the beginning.

      I also use to hate solo ads, but now I love them, just like anything there is a right way to use them and a wrong way. I recently turned $390 into $3,540 with about 10 solo ads.

      I have a very powerful sales process that helps them with their problems that is the number one most important part, then lowers their defenses, builds trust, then I make an offer.

      my list earns me very good money, but I also understand they are not just a list, they are real people who are having problems who are coming to me for help. I help them with those problems before they even see an offer, I continue to help them even more, so when it's time to make the offer usually about every 2 weeks, the conversions are though the roof, and they are very happy with the purchase they made
      Hello, I have a technology blog that is receiving around 9k unique visitors per month, its in spanish my native language. I'm thinking in building a list with my visitors. I would put the sign up for right at the top of the site, saying its a list to help them make money online, and offer some free ebook on the subject if they sign up. That way I would have a list of people interested in making money online.

      Now my question is... how do you select the products to offer them? Would everything be Clickbank products? In my case they have to be products in spanish... so, how do you select your products?

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    I've used a lot of ppc for list building over the years..

    I usually have at least one $47-77 sale immediately after 100 clicks (30-40 opt-ins). if not, there's something seriously wrong that needs fixing..

    But this is very dependent on your traffic source, their mind set, the offer(s), etc.. it might not be fair to compare your opt-ins with those made from ppc.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      I've used a lot of ppc for list building over the years..

      I usually have at least one $47-77 sale immediately after 100 clicks (30-40 opt-ins). if not, there's something seriously wrong that needs fixing..

      But this is very dependent on your traffic source, their mind set, the offer(s), etc.. it might not be fair to compare your opt-ins with those made from ppc.
      I just got back from work and ready to read all these replies And,that sounds freaking amazing and i think i will get to doing that very soon. What do you think i should use google or yahoo for ppc? any tips? Im promoting things in the IM niche. and does google like squeeze pages like the one i have as my signature with an OTO and like 2 or 3 exit popups?
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  • Profile picture of the author napoleonfirst
    Well, one of the best things about a list is that the value per subscriber is awesome, as some list. owner claim $5+ per list member. Of course, you need to gain the confidence of each member of your list to get the most out of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by napoleonfirst View Post

      Well, one of the best things about a list is that the value per subscriber is awesome, as some list. owner claim $5+ per list member. Of course, you need to gain the confidence of each member of your list to get the most out of it.
      Sounds amazing cant wait till i have 2000 good subscribers then, and I will seriously be working on my copy writing and the value that i provide!
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  • Profile picture of the author TGforever
    With my experience I would say stay away from PPV and Ezine solo ads. Even if you have a kick-ass landing page and a good offer the PPV traffic just doesn't convert, at least for me it didn't. I recently just got done with a few solo ads from Ezine in the IM niche and it was a waist of money. Only got a few clicks and about 9 subs, at least I got subs! I'll be getting a solo ad published in Feb. from safe-waps. Hope this one works out better. Just don't give up and don't waist money like it did on PPV and Ezine.

    BTW- If anyone has gotten subs from Ezines and PPV id like to hear your methods
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by TGforever View Post

      With my experience I would say stay away from PPV and Ezine solo ads. Even if you have a kick-ass landing page and a good offer the PPV traffic just doesn't convert, at least for me it didn't. I recently just got done with a few solo ads from Ezine in the IM niche and it was a waist of money. Only got a few clicks and about 9 subs, at least I got subs! I'll be getting a solo ad published in Feb. from safe-waps. Hope this one works out better. Just don't give up and don't waist money like it did on PPV and Ezine.

      BTW- If anyone has gotten subs from Ezines and PPV id like to hear your methods
      Thanks for the tips! and might i say, try ppc, im about to real soon and as mentioned above it seems like an awesome way to get decent immediate traffic and sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author TGforever
        Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

        Thanks for the tips! and might i say, try ppc, im about to real soon and as mentioned above it seems like an awesome way to get decent immediate traffic and sales.
        Yea, I might try it later down the line when I can get my campaign a little more perfected. I'm tired of throwing money out on testing, only to get crap back. So now ill be testing with free methods and then roll out with more paid traffic sources.
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        • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
          Originally Posted by TGforever View Post

          Yea, I might try it later down the line when I can get my campaign a little more perfected. I'm tired of throwing money out on testing, only to get crap back. So now ill be testing with free methods and then roll out with more paid traffic sources.
          Good luck with that, cause free methods usually take a lot of time so it may be a little more difficult to find out what works the best for you, but im just guessing lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    Yes it does depend on the quality of the sellers list and it also depends on the product/products are offering.

    When you are doing ad swaps make sure that the product of your ad swap partner is applicable to your list. It is best if you swap with someone that has an evergreen product. Make sure that the product is not an old PLR ebook or report that is not relevant or otherwise you will burn your list very quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by Sue McDonald View Post

      Yes it does depend on the quality of the sellers list and it also depends on the product/products are offering.

      When you are doing ad swaps make sure that the product of your ad swap partner is applicable to your list. It is best if you swap with someone that has an evergreen product. Make sure that the product is not an old PLR ebook or report that is not relevant or otherwise you will burn your list very quickly.
      Most definitely something to consider before attempting an adswap as I dont want the quality of my list to "go up in flames" lol, and I am in the IM niche. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    I don't know which way you plan on going, but I need to echo a few smart warriors who have gone before me. If this is about sales you will always be burning your list. Without good retention and value that actually makes a difference you are nothing more than a CPA affiliate to vendors.This is not good for long term business growth or cost efficient advertising.

    If the quality and value are there you will be able to lead your readers to higher end items that provide more value and they will love you for it.

    A good affiliate is a middleman that both parties love. Vendors and customers. If you scream buy this they will quickly move on and attach themselves to one of the follow-ups from someone who does offer serious value.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by bilkat19 View Post

      I don't know which way you plan on going, but I need to echo a few smart warriors who have gone before me. If this is about sales you will always be burning your list. Without good retention and value that actually makes a difference you are nothing more than a CPA affiliate to vendors.This is not good for long term business growth or cost efficient advertising.

      If the quality and value are there you will be able to lead your readers to higher end items that provide more value and they will love you for it.

      A good affiliate is a middleman that both parties love. Vendors and customers. If you scream buy this they will quickly move on and attach themselves to one of the follow-ups from someone who does offer serious value.
      Exactly what i was thinking. I am trying to create a followup that is balanced with a just a little more valuable emails than promotional ones. I am definitely working on trying to provide value to my list or at least a cool guy to read emails from lol, and not just getting sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author malchiang
    Any one had success with solo ads?
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    • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
      Originally Posted by malchiang View Post

      Any one had success with solo ads?
      I've been using them to great success.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
    Originally Posted by Jean Michel Mailhot View Post

    Personnally, i've always prefered Media Buying to build my lists... Idk why
    I could try that too in the future jaja
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  • Profile picture of the author lloydmc
    Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

    Hello guys, as I am in the process of building my list. Right now not having made a dime, I have 90 or so people and I have a 400 click solo ad coming up, I want to know how has your list been doing? How was making money from having a list start out? Did you make anything in the first couple months? Was it profit? How about the enjoyment of having those leads come in and not have to worry about anything because of a good followup, and funnel? Anything you want to say about having a list, making a good followup series, any advice please do tell, I want to read it all lol.
    wow a 400click solo ad. My advice is to start small with solos. Even if you have money to burn, I would buy clicks in smaller chunks.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by lloydmc View Post

      wow a 400click solo ad. My advice is to start small with solos. Even if you have money to burn, I would buy clicks in smaller chunks.
      Yeah I wish I would have received that advice earlier, I think that money would have been better spent on a good ppc campaign and that's what I will be focusing on now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
        Hi, I wish my report was finished because I would just send it to you. It's called "List Building For Infinite Income"

        It will be available in my sig soon. Right now it's at 16 pages and expanding a bit.

        My experiences are a little different. I was list building over 27 years ago in the direct mail industry (postal) before the internet. Then I moved my list building online about 10 years ago.

        You should be able to make money within the 1st week of list building but that should not be your goal.

        Instead focus on taking great care of your list and your list will take care of you.

        I don't mean to go against what others have said but, oh well.
        You DON'T need a list of 1,000 or 2,000 to start making money. I know a guy who sells bridges. Yes, bridges like the golden gate bridge. His list is under 300 and he routinely makes mid 6 figures every year.
        Yeah that's a little extreme but, I have a list of under 100 that makes both our car payments every month.


        I know people who have lists of over 10,000 who don't even make 1k per month off of it.


        It's about quality not quantity.


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  • Profile picture of the author ezekielseo
    As said above you should've tried to buy the ads in smaller amounts to see how your squeeze page converts and tweak it accordingly.

    Also i recommend Igor as a solo vendor, he delivers great traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author RachelLily
    I want to share with you the good and the bad. List building is a massive part of my business, but it hasn't always been a "walk in the park."

    There are actually many decent companies out there who provide the service called "autoresponder email list building services" - AKA what you need to start building your list. I've used most of them. I highly recommend you go with Aweber. Aweber is the "Daddy" of them all. They are not only the biggest, in my opinion they have the best customer support. More importantly, just about every WordPress plugin on the Internet today integrates with Aweber. This is very important for a lot of reasons, one of them being that you will start wanting to use some list building tools and you need your autoresponder to integrate smoothly, which Aweber will do.

    Try Aweber for yourself, they have a promotion where you can get started for about $1.00!

    My best advice: Be personal with your mailing list. Make sure the majority of the email content that you send out is helpful, such as useful free resources. Then, once you build a trust with the people, then you can try to sell to your list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I made my first sale via list building. I was offering a $19 ebook and told my 63 lead list that they can get 50% off the product. Woke up in my college dorm room with 2 sales the next morning. I skipped class and rewarded myself with some panini's for the day.
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    • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I made my first sale via list building. I was offering a $19 ebook and told my 63 lead list that they can get 50% off the product. Woke up in my college dorm room with 2 sales the next morning. I skipped class and rewarded myself with some panini's for the day.
      I bought myself lunch + dessert with my first list earnings too.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I made my first sale via list building. I was offering a $19 ebook and told my 63 lead list that they can get 50% off the product. Woke up in my college dorm room with 2 sales the next morning. I skipped class and rewarded myself with some panini's for the day.
      That's nice, and I'm trying to save up my earnings for a car lol. I just wonder why I have a 150+ lead list and yet havent made a sale from my list... I will start doing ppc to hopefully get better leads, and Im regularly tweaking my followup messages to provide value. Maybe I need some headline writing advice lmao.
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    • Profile picture of the author kv2715
      How did you build your list? what is your traffic resource? Did you really arrange the said 50% discount?


      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I made my first sale via list building. I was offering a $19 ebook and told my 63 lead list that they can get 50% off the product. Woke up in my college dorm room with 2 sales the next morning. I skipped class and rewarded myself with some panini's for the day.
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  • Profile picture of the author trafficmasters
    I would recommend building your own list from your own traffic source and not relying on solo ad providers sending visits to your squeeze page , not putting anyone down that deal in "blasts" but for someone who is new, they could potentially burn through a lot of cash trying out different providers and ending up with very little confirmed on their list
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Montgomery
    It depends where you get your solo ads from for example I have bought 100 click solo ads and made 8 sales with a load of opt ins but then I have bought 500 clicks and made 1 or 2 sales and not many opt ins.

    As mentioned above I would give PPC a try also as you will get fresh leads and they can be hungry, I tend to use both solo ads with the solo ad providers I am happy with and PPC with quite good results.
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  • Profile picture of the author rrm1969
    What is the average CPC in yahoo?
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    I feel it will be more practical to have several traffic generation methods that drive traffic to the website so that I will not be affected if ever one source is cut off. Different people have different squeeze page and sales funnel, so I think the main key is to test it out. What works for one person does not mean that it will work for another people.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    These 5 thinsg are vital if you are looking to build a list

    A quality free offer

    Your own front end product which you sell for less than $17

    A good number of emails set up

    A sales page/OTO page that converts fairly well

    A strategy for generating regular leads into your list every single day whether it's free or paid traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author footbag_man
    Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

    Hello guys, as I am in the process of building my list. Right now not having made a dime, I have 90 or so people and I have a 400 click solo ad coming up, I want to know how has your list been doing? How was making money from having a list start out? Did you make anything in the first couple months? Was it profit? How about the enjoyment of having those leads come in and not have to worry about anything because of a good followup, and funnel? Anything you want to say about having a list, making a good followup series, any advice please do tell, I want to read it all lol.
    With 90 subs already you should have made some sales.. You should fix your autoresponder sequence before you continue to buy solo ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author curly sue
      free wsos seem to work well for me, you can easily get 100 subscribers in a day!
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by footbag_man View Post

      With 90 subs already you should have made some sales.. You should fix your autoresponder sequence before you continue to buy solo ads.
      I just finished with the 400 click solo ad and the seller over delieverd by like 30 clicks, but I got a 55% opt in rate yet no sales, tomorrow the first batch that signed up on the first day, like 50 some will get a promotional message and i got like 240+ to receive the follow up in a few days, I really expect to see sales, a few people have been sending me messages that they like what I'm sending them. So I just keep on trying to provide value while building my followup messages.
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  • Profile picture of the author sharppotato
    You should build a squeeze page that provides a free product after opt-in, but also have an OTO so you could make some initial money back after they optin. Solo ads are great for initial traffic, ad-swaps work well aswell. You do not want to do too many ads swaps though because after too many ad swaps, the members on your list will be apart of too many other lists.
    Product creation is the key to building a buyers list aswell.

    Hope this helps ~
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinChapman
    what are you using to build your list? we mostly build ours through twitter and add around twenty new subscrbers per day although it started slower than that its just a matter of keep working at it and the list grows. we got our first sale at around 50 but the sales become more frequent once you get around 500 and the more your list grows the more sales you get, it took us around four months to hit 50 but then it started to grow more quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author shifat
    Guys what you been doing to build your list other then swapping & buying from someone who is in solo business?
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  • Profile picture of the author Multidome
    I have a squeeze page, thank you page, download page for a give away, how do I get traffic to my site?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyler S
    I like to only use solo ads with buyers, as I know the quality is always there.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    I prefer building a list from people who read my articles, check out my blogs and watch my videos. I don't receive nearly the number of subscribers, but those readers remember me and recognize my emails.

    I've done solos, PPC, banner ads and other paid sources, but subscribers from my blogs are the most responsive. I haven't focused on buyers yet, so that could be better. I simply prefer spending most of my time generating content instead of tapping into other traffic sources ... I just enjoy creating content ... even if it costs me in the long run (I'm in this to do something I like doing).
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    • Profile picture of the author MathewMaso
      Originally Posted by jgant View Post

      I prefer building a list from people who read my articles, check out my blogs and watch my videos. I don't receive nearly the number of subscribers, but those readers remember me and recognize my emails.

      I've done solos, PPC, banner ads and other paid sources, but subscribers from my blogs are the most responsive. I haven't focused on buyers yet, so that could be better. I simply prefer spending most of my time generating content instead of tapping into other traffic sources ... I just enjoy creating content ... even if it costs me in the long run (I'm in this to do something I like doing).
      Nice one, I could do the same with the traffic from my blog, however can you help me to understand the numbers, I just wonder if it's worth it, I mean generating all the content for the list takes time and a lot of effort... What are your conversion rates? how much money can you make with a 1000 people list?
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      • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
        Originally Posted by Prodak View Post

        Nice one, I could do the same with the traffic from my blog, however can you help me to understand the numbers, I just wonder if it's worth it, I mean generating all the content for the list takes time and a lot of effort... What are your conversion rates? how much money can you make with a 1000 people list?
        Hello Prodak, a couple people on this thread have mentioned that conversions are at least 1 in 100 from ppc and other traffic source, from a blog I'm not sure it all depends (like with everything). How great is your content? if your content is not valuable or worth reading conversions will be low, but if its great conversions will be higher. You would also probably get less traffic and sign ups from a blog but it all depends how much traffic the blog itself is getting and where do you have your opt in box.
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  • Profile picture of the author ochaim
    One thing not mentioned, and I think it will be very relevant to the OP, is how to continue engagement after the thank you follow up message with the link to the free offer.

    I just started building a list and the follow up sequence so far just 3 messages, are hardly getting opened, around 10-15%. Hard to guage how good your sales funnel is doing when a large majority of your list don't see it.

    Any thoughts on that as well?
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by ochaim View Post

      One thing not mentioned, and I think it will be very relevant to the OP, is how to continue engagement after the thank you follow up message with the link to the free offer.

      I just started building a list and the follow up sequence so far just 3 messages, are hardly getting opened, around 10-15%. Hard to guage how good your sales funnel is doing when a large majority of your list don't see it.

      Any thoughts on that as well?
      I have around 12 messages and I'm planning on continuing up to 30 when I get more goodies to send out and come up with some good ideas. Whats extremely important is the subject title, you need to stand out in there inbox, and be catchy make them want to open the message but be honest and deliver with quality content. your open rates are actually good to what I'm seeing with mine, and I believe it has to do with the quality of the traffic, and if they were genuinely interested in what you had to offer to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author espresso
    I am on my 3rd attempt to build a list
    First time I got it to 100 subs easily enough through solo ads but didnt have an oto or even a follow up series (yea I know)
    Second time I had a follow up series but only got a few subs using free methods and no sales
    This time I have set up an OTO
    Squeeze page converts at between 40-50% if traffic is rightly targeted (they generally now from the advert what they are getting)
    Only started properly promoting it yesterday will see how it goes

    What rate of sales on my OTO should I expect
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  • Profile picture of the author rockong
    Very good thread going on here guys - I just started a new email list and def picked up some points Perhaps I'll use some of that extra PPC money lying around as a freebie from google and grab some more opt-ins
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    Building a list is one of the most important things to do for the long term success online. After people opt into your list offer them a one time offer (OTO) to try and make some money from some of your subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie G
    List building is really all about relationship building. When people trust you they will buy from you. Unfortunately most marketers go for the numbers and rather than bothering to build the quality of relationship that makes people WANT to buy from you.

    It's kind of like trying to get someone to marry you after the first date. They don't know you, don't trust you, and yet you are already asking something of them.

    Romance them, finesse them, communicate with them regularly so you they can fall in love with you a little. Then you've earned the right to ask them for a kiss (a sale).

    Honestly, I get totally annoyed when I sign up with someone and the only thing they ever send me (after their sign up giveaway) is offer after offer. I'm just a dollar sign to them. I won't buy from them but I will hit the unsubscribe link.

    List building should not be about building a flock of sheep that we can 'fleece' whenever we need a buck. It should be about building a group loyal and trusting followers.

    When you've done that even a small list can bring in handsome profits.

    So my advice, focus on building a quality devoted list rather than the big numbers. Besides, once the word gets around you list is actually worth subscribing to you might see your numbers take a healthy jump.

    Sorry for the sermon and rant but I just had to kick in my 2 cents worth.

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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by Ernie G View Post

      List building is really all about relationship building. When people trust you they will buy from you. Unfortunately most marketers go for the numbers and rather than bothering to build the quality of relationship that makes people WANT to buy from you.

      It's kind of like trying to get someone to marry you after the first date. They don't know you, don't trust you, and yet you are already asking something of them.

      Romance them, finesse them, communicate with them regularly so you they can fall in love with you a little. Then you've earned the right to ask them for a kiss (a sale).

      Honestly, I get totally annoyed when I sign up with someone and the only thing they ever send me (after their sign up giveaway) is offer after offer. I'm just a dollar sign to them. I won't buy from them but I will hit the unsubscribe link.

      List building should not be about building a flock of sheep that we can 'fleece' whenever we need a buck. It should be about building a group loyal and trusting followers.

      When you've done that even a small list can bring in handsome profits.

      So my advice, focus on building a quality devoted list rather than the big numbers. Besides, once the word gets around you list is actually worth subscribing to you might see your numbers take a healthy jump.

      Sorry for the sermon and rant but I just had to kick in my 2 cents worth.

      Ernie G
      You nailed it sir, and that is exactly what I am going for.
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  • Profile picture of the author espresso
    As I said above I am currently trying to build my list up and am testing a couple of paid traffic sources
    I was having a good CTR yesterday but it has drooped down significantly today
    I had changed banners in order to see which was more effective may change back now

    The traffic is highly targeted and is converting at a rate of between 33-40% which I am happy about
    I dont think the company I am uses to send traffic can send enough to make it worthwhile is the long run but if I can keep the conversion rate at that level with higher traffic sources I would be happy
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  • Profile picture of the author espresso
    My optin page is back up to 50% conversion rate with my ad having a 1% CTR
    Traffic is very targeted but there isnt a lot of it on the network I am using so will have to try other sources
    Which I'll be doing next week



    My short term goal with it is to send about a 100 people a day to my page get 40% optin rate and get about 10% of those (4) to buy my oto currently priced at 10$
    Is that achievable
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by espresso View Post

      My optin page is back up to 50% conversion rate with my ad having a 1% CTR
      Traffic is very targeted but there isnt a lot of it on the network I am using so will have to try other sources
      Which I'll be doing next week



      My short term goal with it is to send about a 100 people a day to my page get 40% optin rate and get about 10% of those (4) to buy my oto currently priced at 10$
      Is that achievable
      That's definitely achievable with good traffic I'd say a targeted PPC campaign but difficult with solo ads unless you find a good seller, and that 10% conversion rate is pretty damn high for an immediate sale after an opt in. Id say go with say something that (or your own product) that will give you 47 to 77 each sale. and a more "realistic" conversion rate I'd say would be 1 to 6 percent. based on what I've seen from others experiences.
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  • Profile picture of the author eniggma
    How are these things with your list so far? Any sales out of that solo ad yet?
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