The Face of Cheap Labor on the Internet

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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    It is going to be interesting the reaction will be on a thread like this People will say that we will be take advantage of someone who is in a poor country. The counter argument to that would be the one which you raised about giving them a raise and a better living in their country. I am sure one or two will also claim slave labour and the saying "you get what you pay for" will also be said .
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      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      It is going to be interesting the reaction will be on a thread like this People will say that we will be take advantage of someone who is in a poor country. The counter argument to that would be the one which you raised about giving them a raise and a better living in their country. I am sure one or two will also claim slave labour and the saying "you get what you pay for" will also be said .
      You just gave me an excellent business idea! Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gmount
    I'm only just getting started with IM (after a long break) but when I do get to the stage where I know enough to be able to out-source any work in the direction of these people, I won't let someone shame me into not helping them out of the rat race that they find themselves in! (and we think we have it bad!!!)

    When we see how they have to live/survive we should appreciate what we have and if someone does make you feel guilty by playing the "slave labour" card..... if you're happy with the work that you get back, then give them a bonus!!! at least you will be sure that they recieve your donation and it's not been intercepted by some local gangster!
  • Profile picture of the author Alex Greene
    Using cheap labor is a very good idea. It creates wide range of opportunities for people around the world.
  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    The large corporations moved in first. They established a structure that involved ownership of the equipment for manufacturing and control of job flow. Even small companies have trouble working with people like us in manufacturing because they don't own their own equipment. There is a stranglehold over the cheap labor.

    But when people like us can train these people and get other people doing business with them too, a large transformation is going to take place and some of the big guys will go down. There is so much opportunity for us and these people. I plan to repost about this in a couple of years. Change is coming!
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    The large corporations moved in first. They established a structure that involved ownership of the equipment for manufacturing and control of job flow. Even small companies have trouble working with people like us in manufacturing because they don't own their own equipment. There is a stranglehold over the cheap labor.

    But when people like us can train these people and get other people doing business with them too, a large transformation is going to take place and some of the big guys will go down. There is so much opportunity for us and these people. I plan to repost about this in a couple of years. Change is coming!
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    It is okay to contact me! I have been developing software since 1999, creating many popular products like phpLD.
  • Profile picture of the author Matt011
    Great video, thanks for sharing! I definitely endorse hiring people like that because it creates a win-win situation. You get cheap labor, and at the same time you can provide someone with a job. If they're only charging you a dollar per hour or less, you could easily double their salary and make their life a lot easier, or pay them what they ask but give them a "huge" bonus at the end of a project. The only thing I worry about is finding someone who does quality work, but that's no different from anywhere else in the world. Once you've tested a few different workers with various projects and have found someone who does good work, it truly is a win-win relationship.
  • Profile picture of the author donhx
    I know I am going to pick up some flack for saying this here, but I could not live with myself if I only payed someone 50 cents per hour for anything. I would think of myself as someone who exploits others, and I could not live with myself if that were the case. Big corporations have gone offshore, and nearly devastated this country, and I certainly don't want to mimic them. I'm not sure paying technical people a pittance is any better than what Walmart contractors pay them for the work they do in factories.

    Many will think they are doing a good deed by paying a few cents or a few dollars an hour, but that is patronizing and a form of economic Imperialism. I don't think anyone who seeks to make money by exploiting desperate people should think they are helping. If you really want to help them, pay them the minimum wage in your state. It won't hurt you if you are operating a real business, and it would transform their lives in major ways.
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    • Profile picture of the author LSAT Tutor
      Originally Posted by donhx View Post

      I know I am going to pick up some flack for saying this here, but I could not live with myself if I only payed someone 50 cents per hour for anything. I would think of myself as someone who exploits others, and I could not live with myself if that were the case. Big corporations have gone offshore, and nearly devastated this country, and I certainly don't want to mimic them.

      *Agreed*

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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by donhx View Post

      I know I am going to pick up some flack for saying this here, but I could not live with myself if I only payed someone 50 cents per hour for anything. I would think of myself as someone who exploits others, and I could not live with myself if that were the case. Big corporations have gone offshore, and nearly devastated this country, and I certainly don't want to mimic them. I'm not sure paying technical people a pittance is any better than what Walmart contractors pay them for the work they do in factories.

      Many will think they are doing a good deed by paying a few cents or a few dollars an hour, but that is patronizing and a form of economic Imperialism. I don't think anyone who seeks to make money by exploiting desperate people should think they are helping. If you really want to help them, pay them the minimum wage in your state. It won't hurt you if you are operating a real business, and it would transform their lives in major ways.

      I don't think the point of the video is that you can get people to work for you for 50 cents an hour.

      I think the point is that 50 cents an hour is a raise over what these people receive working in factories supporting large corporations.

      You, as an employer, can reward your employees any way you want. Start at a higher rate, offer productivity bonuses, offer monthly incentives and bonuses, etc.

      Also, remember the cost and standard of living is much different in many of these countries. While 50 cents an hour may be extreme, a few dollars an hour may be considered a high wage.

      In the U.S., the minimum wage is only $7.25 and hour. That isn't enough to live on but I don't hear a big clamour to raise it...

      And US states that, historically, have been favourable to workers rights are now enacting "right to work" legislation. Which is more "right to exploit" for the corporations than an effort to increase sustainable jobs for the community.
    • Profile picture of the author FreeMeal
      Originally Posted by donhx View Post

      I know I am going to pick up some flack for saying this here, but I could not live with myself if I only payed someone 50 cents per hour for anything. I would think of myself as someone who exploits others, and I could not live with myself if that were the case. Big corporations have gone offshore, and nearly devastated this country, and I certainly don't want to mimic them. I'm not sure paying technical people a pittance is any better than what Walmart contractors pay them for the work they do in factories.

      Many will think they are doing a good deed by paying a few cents or a few dollars an hour, but that is patronizing and a form of economic Imperialism. I don't think anyone who seeks to make money by exploiting desperate people should think they are helping. If you really want to help them, pay them the minimum wage in your state. It won't hurt you if you are operating a real business, and it would transform their lives in major ways.
      *Agreed*

      Don's hit the nail on the head.

      I'm one of many people who have lost their full time, skilled job, because it was outsourced to India. The same thing is happening to people all over the country. That changes lives too.
  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Considering the World Bank and IMF peg the global poverty line at $2 a day, someone making $1 per hour is not doing too bad (in this context) especially if they work 8 hours a day. Global competition is good. I know it's good for me because it pushes me to keep my quality and productivity up. It also motivates me to continue learning. Remember: if you're not moving forward, you're dying. It's that simple.

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