Optimizepress or Diythemes theisis?

As much as I love OptimizePress, it's not really designed for blogs. It's for sales
pages, squeeze pages etc.

If you want a traditional blog, chose a blog theme-- then either use a pop-up
plugin (best choice) or just paste your autoresponder code directly on the
page in the appropriate spot.

X.

You'd almost have to be a PHD in Web Dev to use the new Thesis. (only partly kidding on that!)

It'sOptimizepress for me because it allows me to create squeeze and landing pages in a fly.

+1 for OptimizePress.

- Ravi Jayagopal

I use both, Optimize press for squeeze pages, and Thesis for blogs. Can't go wrong with either.

Thesis - I swear by it and the fact that Matt Cutts from Google uses it as well may or may not be saying something....

I always find that the code is clean and it does wonders for SEO!

I use Thesis but if you haven't used it before and don't know much about coding then I wouldn't fall for the hype about being easy and don't have to touch code because that's complete crap if you want to have a site look the way you want it to. It was a lot easier before Thesis 2 came out compared to how it is now, imo.

OptimizePress is the Winner !!

I have never tried anything but OP. Super easy to use and the training is first rate. I have been able to build a business because of it.

Have never tried diythemes before but I love OP. Great for whatever marketing related stuff you want to do, although the squeeze page capabilities are a little out of date for me because I don't know how to edit the theme...

All in all though OP is great sales, squeeze, membership sites, blog, etc.

OptimizePress all the way.

No question about it.

OptimizePress is one of the best investments I have made online, next to aweber.

The amount of time, effort, and headache OP has saved me is worth so much more than the price they ask for.

You can use it for blogs, but I believe it is best suited for sales, squeeze, launch pages, etc.

Dont know anything about diythemes thesis, but optimize press has been super simple to use for me in creating squeeze pages, sales pages, and a membership site. I did create a blog on one as well, but I don't think it was really designed for that.

+1 OP

You can do anything you want with Thesis as long as you are proficient in CSS and HTML. If you aren't...I've heard good things about StudioPress.

As for Optimize Press - it's more for squeeze pages, sales pages, etc. Not really used as a blogging theme.

Thesis and Genesis are beginning to be overtaken by some newer, more advanced themes in the blogging world...I too was looking to go this direction but was given a few additional names by some big-name bloggers - check out Headway, Weaver...there some very intriguing options out there.

Jeff

I personally like optimize press and kajabi, I could never really figure out how to use Thesis

lol i have both

Optimizepress is rly awesome and I love it but my only complaint about it is the BLOg feature,(they could have done better with it)

If you;re looking for a blog go for Thesis

If you're looking for salespage,squeezepage,membership sites go for Optimizepress

If you want to install Thesis as your main theme you can then install OP in your subdirectory

I paid the for the developer's option of Thesis months ago and had been meaning to upgrade my sites that use it to the new 2.0 version that the sales page makes sound amazing... And I've spent several 3-4 hour long sessions trying to learn how to use it and I finally just realized... this sucks. It's at least 10x harder to use than the 1.8 version was.

I purchased Headway today and in a couple hours redesigned several blogs from top to bottom and I'm very pleased with the results.

Thesis 2.0 is for developers (and even then there's some brave ones who admitted it sucks)... no matter what the sales page says. If you want to waste a shitload of time trying to customize your blog and get nothing accomplished then get Thesis 2.

Catalyst Theme is awesome and doesn't require coding. I heard Genesis is similar. I've been wanting to try Thesis 2.0 but after looking at the YouTube videos, have to say I may let it pass for now.

Optimizepress is design for sales just like warrior x said, they are to different cms. Thesis can achieve exactly what you want, of course it'll be easy if you are a designer but if not and you can't outsource the development then goodluck tweaking for almost a month if your lucky

I have all three, and like Genesis a little better.

I agree with others that are saying Thesis 2 is more for developers. When I bought it, their promo material read as if it were for non-developers. but it's definitely not. It's an additional item to learn if your not familiar with wordpress/html/css already

I also have OP and that is more for putting up fast sales or squeeze pages. But you'll need to customize it in order to not look like the 100's of other get rich quick squeeze pages.


If you have Genesis, you can buy a child theme called Dynamik that adds a bunch of CSS customization into the wordpress dashboard.

OptimizePress is great for landing pages but it's not for blogging.

A problem with OP is that your page ends up looking like every other IM sales page out there.

One thing about optimize press I question is their verification process. You need to register each website you want to install it on. * It is free, but I wonder what can be done with that data by a company who's target market is it's account holders, people like us.

If you have the time, it would be best to just go with wordpress, learn a little html, css, php, and hack away at existing default theme.

I would go with OptimizePress. It's simple, easy... and you can build sites in a cinch. I know a friend of mine who doesn't know anything about website building/design, but with Optimize Press she created her own site that looks very professional - and is effective.

I wonder how much they have made off optimize press it in the process


I heard a clip from a "guru" today. He was at a conference of Dan Kennedy's. He told the crowd(paying attendees) something like. "Dan said I couldn't be on the seminar unless I had something to sell." he left it at that and went on to talk about something else.

The reason Kennedy wouldn't let Yanik be a part of the seminar if he didn't have something to sell was: Dan Kennedy will get a cut of that promotion. He had him speak at the seminar because he is a "guru" that had a product with a potential to get some money from.


Don't put too much credit in the words the guru's leading you to believe. Figure out why they are saying it.

What is the point of getting Thesis if you already have to be a developer to use it? I can code themes for WordPress from scratch, but the entire purpose of buying a theme is to avoid the time and hassle of doing that. I don't really understand the statements of "you can do anything with thesis if you're a developer" since I can do anything with WordPress as a developer. The whole point of buying a theme is that I don't want to have to do anything with it, it should do it already.

Anyways, thanks for all the feedback on roley's question, as it saved me from having to make a thread asking about OptimizePress. I'm going to buy it right now.

It's not either/or. These themes are designed for different purposes.

Thesis is almost ENDLESSLY customizable and IMHO, the latest build has absolutely revolutionized the way people will approach building websites because it allows NON-developers to develop using a visual interface instead of learning CSS.

But if you're creating an information product, sales page, squeeze pages, etc, OptimizePress already has everything set up for you to do these things, whereas with Thesis it would take some time to get your theme styling right, integrate your autoresponder, etc.

Basically, hammer and a screwdriver.. ;-)

I heavily used some of the big WordPress theme frameworks, OptimizePress, Thesis 1.x, Thesis2.x, Genesis, Headway, etc.

I don't hear much about "Catalyst", but really that is one of frameworks that really amazed me... I must admit, from the outside "Catalyst" looks to simple, their homepage is simple, no hype no nothing, it was hard for me to even buy the framework, but they really over-deliver.

Catalyst has my vote, followed by thesis 2.0 (yes i know the new thesis is confusing, but ones you get the hang of it, its awesome). Catalyst and thesis al the way!

1. Catalyst = Easy customizations, various landing pages, flexibility, fast, great community, over deliver on what they promise and rock solid framework.

2. Thesis2.x = Hyped, not as easy as promised, takes a few days of frustration, BUT after these 1-2 days of frustration... Pffff, you gonna LOVE it...

If you really are a beginner stick with themeforest themes, if you want to move up a notch, go with Catalyst (you can do anything with Catalyst, BELIEVE me) I don't know how to advice Thesis.. Only use thesis if you can see thru the hype, it is really not for beginners in my opinion, you need to know some CSS. While CSS is absolutely easy to learn (2 days) i still think Thesis should not promote there product as beginner friendly.

But like i said, i Love Thesis2.x and i Love Catalyst. (Catalyst is champ)
Good luck!

Ps. if you want to learn more about css basics, try this free training, i learned a lot from it by watching 5 minutes every day (30 days long). Your good to go!

https://tutsplus.com/course/30-days-...-html-and-css/

If you are really lazy, don't even do the exercises, just look at the video's and learn the basics... It will help you go even further with WordPress

Good luck!

OptimizePress is awesome for building sales pages but for blogging I wouldn't bother plenty of themes available which in my opinion would do a far better job alround and give a far more professional look and feel.

For me thesis is better. Versatile unlike the Optimizepress, it is only good for salespages or squeezepages but not blogs.