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Hey guys this is the first squeeze page I have made myself, well partially since I have a tool called squeeze ninja to help me out with a whole bunch of little options and I wanted input from fellow warriors? Ive heard simple squeeze pages or video squeeze pages are the best so I kind of used that as a guideline . From a scale of 1-10 how would you rate my squeeze page, and how should I change it/tweak it to get the best results for my PPC campaign? The part I love the best about my page is that good ole redirect to a OTO offer after the opt in. but yea this is just for demonstration purposes if its allowed lol.

here is the link 7 Ways To Make Money!
#list #page #rate #squeeze
  • Profile picture of the author NatesMarketing
    I would get rid of the header "Start Your Online Business Today!" with the big blue box...you don't need it.

    I would also get rid of the social share stuff - no one will share your squeeze page and you don't want to distract them with unnecessary-ness.

    What does this mean? "Method number 5 shows an incredible business model!"
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by NatesMarketing View Post

      I would get rid of the header "Start Your Online Business Today!" with the big blue box...you don't need it.

      I would also get rid of the social share stuff - no one will share your squeeze page and you don't want to distract them with unnecessary-ness.

      What does this mean? "Method number 5 shows an incredible business model!"
      Thanks I just got rid of the header but kept the blue box, might change that soon, and I also kept the social buttons because I dont think it would hurt conversions to get free traffic through social media I was thinking it might increase conversions because it would make the site more friendly. Just a thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author tomerep
    i think the keyword itself is not catchy. 7 ways? but we all know that there are many ways to make money. you would have place 7 best ways or 7 free ways. something like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by tomerep View Post

      i think the keyword itself is not catchy. 7 ways? but we all know that there are many ways to make money. you would have place 7 best ways or 7 free ways. something like that.
      Thanks, I was thinking about that too, so I changed it now.
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  • Profile picture of the author vjboc
    I would change "Method number 5 shows an incredible business model! " to "See an incredible business model!"
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by vjboc View Post

      I would change "Method number 5 shows an incredible business model! " to "See an incredible business model!"
      Thanks I changed that now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Remove the social media sharing buttons.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

      Remove the social media sharing buttons.
      I was thinking the social media buttons would help more than hurt, can you give some reasons to remove them? has anyone tried this? have you guys seen a drop in conversions or a slight boost in traffic and conversions, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    I'd make your headline "Discover How To Finally Make..." not only a different font (simpler, such as: Myriad Pro, Hand of Sean, Impact, Headline One, etc.) but also a reddish color or something that stands out more than a yellow-ish color on a grey background. I had to struggle to read it and it should be one of your most important "at a glance" text on the page IMO.

    Hope that helps
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      I'd make your headline "Discover How To Finally Make..." not only a different font (simpler, such as: Myriad Pro, Hand of Sean, Impact, Headline One, etc.) but also a reddish color or something that stands out more than a yellow-ish color on a grey background. I had to struggle to read it and it should be one of your most important "at a glance" text on the page IMO.

      Hope that helps
      Big thanks! I think it actually looks a lot better now but I still feel like it needs some improvement before I begin to test with ppc. maybe a diferent background color, different footing text color, the bullets copy itself needs a little work I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author promo_guy
    I think it already looks better

    I'd experiment a little. Like you mentioned, maybe try going with a white background (or much lighter grey?) and as others have mentioned, maybe try getting rid of some of the text above/below the main Headline...also maybe get rid of the social media buttons.

    At the end of the day, it's best to split test and remove/adjust/add small elements at a time and testing some more.

    Think about where you want your visitors eyes to go first, second, third...eventually to your form.

    For example:

    1) first view = main headline
    2) second view = benefits/features (bullets?)
    3) third view = form

    Maybe get rid of "Want To Start an Online Business?" at the top...gives your headline more "space". Then, maybe remove the social sharing block and put the "Get Started Learning Today, Enter Your Best Email Address To Receive The Download Link!" in its place. This way, your prospects are first reading your headline, then your bullets (benefits?) then the "call to action" which should be to get them to opt in...maybe even an arrow pointing to the right to where your form is.

    Obviously, these are just quick ideas off the top of my head. You need to experiment to see what may look best.

    Can you make your form stand out a little more within your software, ie an arrow pointing down or something to make it stand out?
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by promo_guy View Post

      I think it already looks better

      I'd experiment a little. Like you mentioned, maybe try going with a white background (or much lighter grey?) and as others have mentioned, maybe try getting rid of some of the text above/below the main Headline...also maybe get rid of the social media buttons.

      At the end of the day, it's best to split test and remove/adjust/add small elements at a time and testing some more.

      Think about where you want your visitors eyes to go first, second, third...eventually to your form.

      For example:

      1) first view = main headline
      2) second view = benefits/features (bullets?)
      3) third view = form

      Maybe get rid of "Want To Start an Online Business?" at the top...gives your headline more "space". Then, maybe remove the social sharing block and put the "Get Started Learning Today, Enter Your Best Email Address To Receive The Download Link!" in its place. This way, your prospects are first reading your headline, then your bullets (benefits?) then the "call to action" which should be to get them to opt in...maybe even an arrow pointing to the right to where your form is.

      Obviously, these are just quick ideas off the top of my head. You need to experiment to see what may look best.

      Can you make your form stand out a little more within your software, ie an arrow pointing down or something to make it stand out?
      Thanks for all the suggestions, I definitely took them and started changing my site and I still have a bit of editing to do before I start testing
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    If the main objective is to get the subscribers, you might want to remove the social media sharing button because it will be distracting to the visitors that come to your website. The headline can be improved and I tend to keep my squeeze page simple as that gets me the best results. You might consider putting an exiting pop up to another of your squeeze page or Pay Pay Lead program so that you will not be wasting the leads.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
      I think the overall design is fine. As someone else suggested, dump the social share buttons. Replace with some captivating image, or even better yet, a picture of yourself (with perhaps a tiny bio) to let people know that you are real and not some nameless, faceless internet marketer just after a lead ...

      Follow the mini bio up with more information about yourself in your follow up sequence...

      Now, as for the headline and bullet points....

      Discover How To Finally Make A Living Online Grab This Free eBook here! - Remember - BIG benefit + WITHOUT (x) pain in the ass normal problem/issue. Also, try to be as specific as possible!! 'A Living' is just WAY too general. It would also help here to call out a specific group of people....


      Seven best ways you can make money by this week! - would change 'best' to 'sure fire' - and once again, try to be specific - with a dollar amount numbers help.
      How to build a legitimate business - far too general and boring, scrap or rework this bullet
      Make money with or without a website - not bad, but maybe something more to the effect of - "Learn how to make (x) dollars in (y) amount of time WITHOUT the pain and hassle of constructing a high converting website..
      See an incredible business model! - "Learn the ins and outs of one of the best business models online today - specific step by step instruction to help you get started FAST"
      Perfect advice for a complete newbie and experienced marketer. - Highly doubt that this method could be perfect for everyone.... Other people will feel the same. By making sweeping generalizations, it makes this product seem less genuine and more pie in the sky. Once again, choose who you are targeting and target that specific group. Don't feel bad about segmenting. THis will help your conversions.

      If you want to call out another group, just set up another squeeze page!


      Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
        Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

        I think the overall design is fine. As someone else suggested, dump the social share buttons. Replace with some captivating image, or even better yet, a picture of yourself (with perhaps a tiny bio) to let people know that you are real and not some nameless, faceless internet marketer just after a lead ...

        Follow the mini bio up with more information about yourself in your follow up sequence...

        Now, as for the headline and bullet points....

        Discover How To Finally Make A Living Online Grab This Free eBook here! - Remember - BIG benefit + WITHOUT (x) pain in the ass normal problem/issue. Also, try to be as specific as possible!! 'A Living' is just WAY too general. It would also help here to call out a specific group of people....


        Seven best ways you can make money by this week! - would change 'best' to 'sure fire' - and once again, try to be specific - with a dollar amount numbers help.
        How to build a legitimate business - far too general and boring, scrap or rework this bullet
        Make money with or without a website - not bad, but maybe something more to the effect of - "Learn how to make (x) dollars in (y) amount of time WITHOUT the pain and hassle of constructing a high converting website..
        See an incredible business model! - "Learn the ins and outs of one of the best business models online today - specific step by step instruction to help you get started FAST"
        Perfect advice for a complete newbie and experienced marketer. - Highly doubt that this method could be perfect for everyone.... Other people will feel the same. By making sweeping generalizations, it makes this product seem less genuine and more pie in the sky. Once again, choose who you are targeting and target that specific group. Don't feel bad about segmenting. THis will help your conversions.

        If you want to call out another group, just set up another squeeze page!


        Alex
        Super big help there, I changed the copy of the bullets, I took off the social media buttons because of few warriors recommending so. I will add a casual pic and bio later while the sire is still fully propagating and then I will begin my Bing PPC adventures! Im just hoping that I can get at least a 1% conversion rate with the OTO on this squeeze page, I would love for that to cover the costing of my testing and tweaking lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by JasonBennet View Post

      If the main objective is to get the subscribers, you might want to remove the social media sharing button because it will be distracting to the visitors that come to your website. The headline can be improved and I tend to keep my squeeze page simple as that gets me the best results. You might consider putting an exiting pop up to another of your squeeze page or Pay Pay Lead program so that you will not be wasting the leads.
      Yea I was just trying figuring out how i can do that with this tool, as it does not really have that feature :O like I would probably have to do that part myself. so yea either the same CB OTO as the exit pop up, or maybe a CPA offer. what do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
    What are the 7 methods breifly????
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  • Profile picture of the author vjboc
    DeZapper12, I think it looks alot better now. The Social share is still questionable.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by vjboc View Post

      DeZapper12, I think it looks alot better now. The Social share is still questionable.
      Thanks for the feedback, so yup i finally decided to remove the share buttons.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Are you making $6,000 a month? Not trying to knock you or anything but... if you were making $6,000 a month, and you want to show others how to make $6,000 a month... shouldn't you have the experience and testing knowledge of whether or not your squeeze page is a good one?
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    • Profile picture of the author higherluv
      Generally your squeeze page will convert quite well as is as far as opt-ins are concerned. (this depends of course on the traffic method)

      So… 7-8/10

      Some suggestions:

      I would make $6000 stand out - like that. (write it out as a number, italicize it and underline it)

      Capitalize “FREE”.

      Put a period after “Effort”. (i.e., watch your grammar)

      Your subheadline should be right above the arrow (if you’re able; I’m not familiar with squeeze ninja)

      Perhaps make your fill-out spaces larger.

      Put a big huge “Get Instant Access” Button instead of the little tiny button you got now.

      Optional: make the 2nd and 4th line of the bullet comments non-boldface. Keep the odd ones the way they are.

      That’s all - good start.

      BTW - No offence, but I’m anxious to see what the strategy is because it obviously has nothing to do with driving traffic to squeeze pages to build a list.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
        Originally Posted by higherluv View Post

        Generally your squeeze page will convert quite well as is as far as opt-ins are concerned. (this depends of course on the traffic method)

        So... 7-8/10

        Some suggestions:

        I would make $6000 stand out - like that. (write it out as a number, italicize it and underline it)

        Capitalize "FREE".

        Put a period after "Effort". (i.e., watch your grammar)

        Your subheadline should be right above the arrow (if you're able; I'm not familiar with squeeze ninja)

        Perhaps make your fill-out spaces larger.

        Put a big huge "Get Instant Access" Button instead of the little tiny button you got now.

        Optional: make the 2nd and 4th line of the bullet comments non-boldface. Keep the odd ones the way they are.

        That's all - good start.

        BTW - No offence, but I'm anxious to see what the strategy is because it obviously has nothing to do with driving traffic to squeeze pages to build a list.
        Thanks for the suggestions, I did what I can so far, and I really want to add that big shiny "get instant access" button but I don't believe squeeze ninja lets me customize that. :O and well the book covers 7 different methods, one of them is of course list building!
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    • Profile picture of the author NetSensei
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Are you making $6,000 a month? Not trying to knock you or anything but... if you were making $6,000 a month, and you want to show others how to make $6,000 a month... shouldn't you have the experience and testing knowledge of whether or not your squeeze page is a good one?
      I personally agree with Randall. I think the squeeze page itself is good enough to work. Of course that can only really be determined by testing it.

      I know that most don`t really give a d*** about whether they have actually done what it is that they are claiming they will teach others.

      Don`t get me wrong, I absolutely think that beginners should get started and one of the best ways to learn is to teach. But I would start with something I actually can do and sell the sizzle of that... and then way over deliver. Then learn something else and then teach that.... again selling the he** out of the sizzle while way over delivering the steak (product).

      This will build your reputation and the relationship you have with the list you build. But if you just offer some plr garbage then all you will build is a list freebie seekers that think you suck. And you will perpetuate the idea that most marketers are a bunch of blind fools that try to lead other blind fools down the path of broken dreams.

      Anyone can use a template to make a reasonably compelling offer to entice someone into signing up to their list. But if you want to build a business, you have to deliver something of value to the customer that positions you as a leader and someone worth listening to.

      When you do that, even a smaller list will be of greater value because they will be responsive.

      How you do that is to take something you already know or learn something that you want to know and then make a good product that you offer free for their email.

      Just take one thing and learn it as well as possible. Then make a 6 video course with accompaning pdf and mind map covering that one specific small thing in complete detail. When they get your free offer, they will think... Wow! This is totally sick (awesome). This is better than other products I paid $30 or $40 for, but this guy gave it to me for free. They will be hooked. Then when you make an offer, they will buy because they trust you to way over deliver.

      It is sometimes unpopular to suggest a way that requires more work. Everyone (including me) would like to buy a cheap plr product, use a template to build a compelling "Sounding" offer and get great results.

      But the reality is the more effort you put in on the front end, the better results you will get on the back end.

      It is great to see you taking action and starting to build your list. But do consider the quality of list you want to build. If you have made the kind of money you are talking about and/or you can offer a high quality product for those that sign up... then you got it going on... Great!

      But if you haven`t and all you have is some $10 plr product, then I would suggest that you take a little extra time and come up with something that you and others really want to know... that you actually do know, then use your template to build a compelling sounding offer about that.... and then way over deliver.

      Good Luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
        Looks like its coming along....

        How about this for a headline instead...

        (Pre Headline) "Attention struggling internet marketers..."

        "Discover an Amazing, Proven Method To Finally Start Landing $6000 + Monthly Pay Checks Time and Time Again, All Without Repeating The Same Stupid Mistakes That Keep 95% Of Internet Marketers Dead Broke..."

        I think that is far more powerful.

        Alex
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        • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
          Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

          Looks like its coming along....

          How about this for a headline instead...

          (Pre Headline) "Attention struggling internet marketers..."

          "Discover an Amazing, Proven Method To Finally Start Landing $6000 + Monthly Pay Checks Time and Time Again, All Without Repeating The Same Stupid Mistakes That Keep 95% Of Internet Marketers Dead Broke..."

          I think that is far more powerful.

          Alex
          My apologies, I just had to rip that sentence and put it in my page as it felt really good while I read that, "that feeling when you see and read good sales copy" lmao. Thanks though, and I will probably remove the 6000 a month part just to be more genuine.
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          • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
            No worries, that's why I put it there, so you could use it

            Looks fantastic! Best of luck with the page and let us know how you get along.

            Alex
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            • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
              Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

              No worries, that's why I put it there, so you could use it

              Looks fantastic! Best of luck with the page and let us know how you get along.

              Alex
              Thanks I just made another squeeze page that's exactly the same but a different link, to put here on the warrior forum, so I can start doing PPC and check my opt ins and conversions! I will definetly post my results and see if I can get a few sales (hopefully at least 4-5 spending at most 8 cents a clicks) with 40 bucks worth of ppc money to start and test. Thanks to everybody for all the help, If I can take a good casual picture and and add a nice little bio in a little bit before I start I'll update it here and see what you guys think.
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        • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
          Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

          Looks like its coming along....

          How about this for a headline instead...

          (Pre Headline) "Attention struggling internet marketers..."

          "Discover an Amazing, Proven Method To Finally Start Landing $6000 + Monthly Pay Checks Time and Time Again, All Without Repeating The Same Stupid Mistakes That Keep 95% Of Internet Marketers Dead Broke..."

          I think that is far more powerful.

          Alex
          To make the Headline shorter I changed it to something simple and related to my ppc ads, and I made that very long but impressive headline into two more bullets.
          I also removed the moving arrow to make more space so the page would not scroll and look neater. But It still scrolls a bit. I also changed the form with one of awebers so the buttons and layout is nicer. Lastly I decided to just make the squeeze page straight up white.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
        Originally Posted by NetSensei View Post

        I personally agree with Randall. I think the squeeze page itself is good enough to work. Of course that can only really be determined by testing it.

        I know that most don`t really give a d*** about whether they have actually done what it is that they are claiming they will teach others.

        Don`t get me wrong, I absolutely think that beginners should get started and one of the best ways to learn is to teach. But I would start with something I actually can do and sell the sizzle of that... and then way over deliver. Then learn something else and then teach that.... again selling the he** out of the sizzle while way over delivering the steak (product).

        This will build your reputation and the relationship you have with the list you build. But if you just offer some plr garbage then all you will build is a list freebie seekers that think you suck. And you will perpetuate the idea that most marketers are a bunch of blind fools that try to lead other blind fools down the path of broken dreams.

        Anyone can use a template to make a reasonably compelling offer to entice someone into signing up to their list. But if you want to build a business, you have to deliver something of value to the customer that positions you as a leader and someone worth listening to.

        When you do that, even a smaller list will be of greater value because they will be responsive.

        How you do that is to take something you already know or learn something that you want to know and then make a good product that you offer free for their email.

        Just take one thing and learn it as well as possible. Then make a 6 video course with accompaning pdf and mind map covering that one specific small thing in complete detail. When they get your free offer, they will think... Wow! This is totally sick (awesome). This is better than other products I paid $30 or $40 for, but this guy gave it to me for free. They will be hooked. Then when you make an offer, they will buy because they trust you to way over deliver.

        It is sometimes unpopular to suggest a way that requires more work. Everyone (including me) would like to buy a cheap plr product, use a template to build a compelling "Sounding" offer and get great results.

        But the reality is the more effort you put in on the front end, the better results you will get on the back end.

        It is great to see you taking action and starting to build your list. But do consider the quality of list you want to build. If you have made the kind of money you are talking about and/or you can offer a high quality product for those that sign up... then you got it going on... Great!

        But if you haven`t and all you have is some $10 plr product, then I would suggest that you take a little extra time and come up with something that you and others really want to know... that you actually do know, then use your template to build a compelling sounding offer about that.... and then way over deliver.

        Good Luck.
        Thanks for the advice,I have people on my list just thanking me for being real and honest with them about me through my autoresponder messages, and I just want to be really helpful and a guide to them while making my money off my recommendations. I give tons of tips and talk about myself and joke around in my emails for it to be very casual and friendly, I know a ton about internet marketing for the past 2 or 3 years but this year is when I just started putting in effort. building my list actually spending money for ads and websites etc. I want to help people get to that 6k at least a month mark because it is a goal I also have set for myself. But I will probably change that number on my squeeze page to be less specific and more trustworthy. and the ebook I give out I picked it up from a list building product I read the whole thing loved it, and I believe its a perfect eBook for a newbie.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Are you making $6,000 a month? Not trying to knock you or anything but... if you were making $6,000 a month, and you want to show others how to make $6,000 a month... shouldn't you have the experience and testing knowledge of whether or not your squeeze page is a good one?
      Yea I know, I thought it would make it sound more enticing, I 'll probably change it but not make it too "general" like a "living" how I was recommended not to do above.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edk
    There's a lot about it I like. As a split test try capitalising the first letter of every word (more or less) for the copy at the bullet points and see to what extent that makes a difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by Edk View Post

      There's a lot about it I like. As a split test try capitalising the first letter of every word (more or less) for the copy at the bullet points and see to what extent that makes a difference.
      Thanks I may try that!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Berry
    Well, congrats for the first squeeze page, it is going to be a rough hill forward, but with the right attitude you will go there faster. I prefer to change the color for your tittle become blue or orange, because the red one is only good when the sentence is not that long. How about you put some picture in that blend page. I think the rest is already good enough, I believe your squeeze page score right now is flat 7.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by Brad Berry View Post

      Well, congrats for the first squeeze page, it is going to be a rough hill forward, but with the right attitude you will go there faster. I prefer to change the color for your tittle become blue or orange, because the red one is only good when the sentence is not that long. How about you put some picture in that blend page. I think the rest is already good enough, I believe your squeeze page score right now is flat 7.
      Thanks for the advice and motivation. I started out with orange but then I got a recommendation for red and it I though it seriously looks better. I will most likely add a picture of myself with a small bio. and maybe a picture of the eBook soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    I am afraid that most of the comments on here are slightly pedantic...there is only one thing you need to do: make your page UNIQUE.

    Where is your personal touch? Why so much sales hype? It has to be unique, so differentiate yourself from the competition. That's how money is made.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by proguy7 View Post

      I am afraid that most of the comments on here are slightly pedantic...there is only one thing you need to do: make your page UNIQUE.

      Where is your personal touch? Why so much sales hype? It has to be unique, so differentiate yourself from the competition. That's how money is made.
      Thanks, well I'm trying.describe unique? I would love to make my page stand out and be unique, but I follow a couple guidelines to make it simple and compelling.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Originally Posted by DaZapper12 View Post

    Hey guys this is the first squeeze page I have made myself, well partially since I have a tool called squeeze ninja to help me out with a whole bunch of little options and I wanted input from fellow warriors? Ive heard simple squeeze pages or video squeeze pages are the best so I kind of used that as a guideline . From a scale of 1-10 how would you rate my squeeze page, and how should I change it/tweak it to get the best results for my PPC campaign? The part I love the best about my page is that good ole redirect to a OTO offer after the opt in. but yea this is just for demonstration purposes if its allowed lol.

    here is the link 7 Ways To Make Money!
    Doesn't look bad at all. The headline is a little cluttered but not bad at all. You should split-test the headline and bullets if you can do that with squeeze ninja.
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    • Profile picture of the author DaZapper12
      Originally Posted by thedanbrown View Post

      Doesn't look bad at all. The headline is a little cluttered but not bad at all. You should split-test the headline and bullets if you can do that with squeeze ninja.
      Thanks man when I start seeing some sales I'll start making new pages with some differences and see what works best! right now I'm just trying to set up some tracking maybe prosper 202 so I can see what works right away.
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  • Profile picture of the author theaccountant
    one thing I know how to do is to write a header

    That header will crush you ... way too long ... very distracting

    But the layout is great 4 out of 10 overall ( because header is messy)
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      Originally Posted by theaccountant View Post

      one thing I know how to do is to write a header

      That header will crush you ... way too long ... very distracting

      But the layout is great 4 out of 10 overall ( because header is messy)
      Interesting, well how would you recommend it then?
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    Okay So I started my campaign online last night to see if I can at least break even with 20 bucks and, I check today and have only 1 impression on my ad and of course no clicks. Looks like I got some learning to do. I will probably start another thread just for that.
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