Launching Product - How To Get Affiliates?

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Can anyone give me some tips on getting affiliates involved in my product?

It's not an IM based product, so I can't do a WSO!

You can have a look: www.roulettegod.com | Roulette Strategy From A Professional Player .

I basically helped a friend develop a membership site for his product, as he is going into semi-retirement and wanted to put his knowledge out there for others. It also gives him something to do, I suppose, as he only plays roulette part time now.

I am the more tech savvy one, but I am not a marketing expert by any means!

Thanks guys and gals.
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Originally Posted by proguy7 View Post

    Can anyone give me some tips on getting affiliates involved in my product?

    It's not an IM based product, so I can't do a WSO!

    You can have a look: www.roulettegod.com | Roulette Strategy From A Professional Player .

    I basically helped a friend develop a membership site for his product, as he is going into semi-retirement and wanted to put his knowledge out there for others. It also gives him something to do, I suppose, as he only plays roulette part time now.

    I am the more tech savvy one, but I am not a marketing expert by any means!

    Thanks guys and gals.
    You can put your product on clickbank, that will get a lot of affiliates signing up.

    Also contact people who sell similar sorts of products, and ask them.

    If you and your mate are completely unknown, then you might want to promote some of the similar products first, then when the owner sees that you're making sales, they're more likely to help you out too.
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    Thanks for the reply.

    What do you mean by "promote some of the similar products first"? You mean products not created by us?

    I had always thought Clickbank was a bit of a meat market...the other problem is a 60 day money back guarantee. Can't get around that one, right?

    Thanks.
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    Thanks for your post, Paul.

    I will have a look at JVZoo...let's hope it doesn't have a stupid refund guarantee like Click Bank!
  • Profile picture of the author wakey7
    Would you recommend JVZoo over RAP Bank?
  • Profile picture of the author TanyaRebrov
    Well I think it will be better for you to sell your product with clickbank. As we know that competition is really tight in clickbank right now, I think more IM expert marketer is using clickback for their affiliate marketing platform.
    And you don't need to worry about the 60 days money back guarantee, as long as you confidence with your product then you will be okay. This system is exist to prevent spam product and thus you will okay, right mate?
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    Paul, distance selling regulations?

    I thought Paypal's guarantees only kicked-on for physical products, not virtual.
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    Paul, I agree with your advice about the 60 day money back guarantee.

    I just know that some people will take the piss, and try and get as much as possible for free!

    That's a business cost in a way.
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    Thank you all for your input.

    I will see how it goes with JVZOO.

    Does anyone know of a reliable website for solo ads? That could be another thing to try.

    Cheers.
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
    You can certainly do a WSO on this. It's still a money making method!

    Just please tell me it's on beating real casino roulette wheels and not online. Because you can't beat online roulette tables. But I know that in many casinos there are dealers who have signature moves or through careful watching you can determine where the ball can land.

    I did it where I use to live in Luton I was told I couldn't play at the roulette table after turning my £5 into £200. However, I did tell him how I was doing so well! lol.

    Tip: Don't assume the dealer is on your side after a few friendly chats
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    That must have been because they expected you to hit them big. Silly move, my friend, but interesting nonetheless.

    Yes, indeed, it's for a real roulette wheel...each wheel has its own characteristics, as does the environment.

    It's not as simple as you mentioned, but you are on the right track.

    One thing: isn't a WSO dirt cheap? I wouldn't want the product to be devalued, if you know what I mean.

    Cheers.
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
    Forgot to add, a WSO is just a discounted figure for us warriors. It doesn't have to be a huge discount, just a discount that is otherwise not available on your site.

    Put it this way, a lot of the traffic here you may never get on your website. BY selling on your site, and on here, you're taking advantage of the traffic and making money you might otherwise not have made.

    See it this way:

    "I don't want to sell here cheaper because it's worth more, so I'd rather make less and sell it for more by selling it to people who visit my site".

    Whereas I would say:

    "I'll take advantage of the instant traffic here and sell it slightly cheaper, gathering testimonials and building my list and affiliates, AND I'll make even more money from my main site selling it for more to visitors".

    You see how this could help you?
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    That's an interesting story, which casino chain was it?

    Well, my friend bets on only straight up bets...that's where the real money is to be made.

    Thanks for your advice - I will have to see how to do a WSO, then! More work...hah!
  • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    And I know those who specialize in it do well offline, but I've tried online roulette, using every system under the sun, even my own methods, and eventually EVERY online site hits a bad run of 10-11-12-13-14 or more of the same type in a row, and it ruins you.

    So I was just making sure it wasn't for online roulette, because from experience I know it can't be beat
    There is no system to beat online roulette, take it from someone who used to make a lot of money from online gambling. I wouldn't be surprised if your 'offline' system was just luck either, turning £5 into £200 isn't anything exceptional and if you really knew a way to guarantee results you would have made a lot more than £200 from it, surely?

    You get runs of luck and it's easy to see a 'pattern' develop that isn't really there. I know a guy who played online blackjack for over a year and was convinced he had figured out the pattern to it. He kept on winning month after month until he didn't anymore and realised it was all just luck. There is no pattern to the way the numbers come out or the cards land. The only way you can beat it is with odds and that only really works online when you receive bonuses, not offline when you're playing with your own money (unless you can card count but that's near impossible in most casinos these days).
  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    I don't think you read my post properly or the OP, or focused on the names. I'm not the owner of this program, and I don't promote any roulette program.
    I read and understood your post. Nowhere did I say you owned this program or promoted one.

    And I also said I've tested everything under the sun for online roulette and know that you can't beat it.
    You said you'd tried every system under the sun I was just pointing out it was pointless as it's not a beatable game unless it's rigged in your favor or there's some sort of bug.

    I do however know that you can beat roulette in live casinos, based on the roulette wheels, the dealer and other reasons. What I did was exploit what the dealer was repeatedly doing the same. I was wagering 1 pound a time, and I wasn't doubling up each time, so I did this for hours on end before finally spilling. I still got it wrong sometimes, but I was right far more times than wrong because it was predictable, unlike online roulette which is just a random number generator.

    I don't even claim to make a living from it LOL. It was just a night out with my now ex gf, where I started with £5 and took it to £200 before I told the dealer. Otherwise I could have made more
    Seriously, this was probably luck. You were on a night out, a little drunk, it's easy when you are winning to start thinking that you've spotted a pattern and can exploit it. Just because you got it right more times than wrong means nothing, it happens...it's called luck. If you truly believed that you could beat the system would not be playing £1 per spin.

    I'm not sure whether it is possible to predict where the ball is going to land based on the wheel and the way the dealer spins or not but I suspect not.
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    RockingLastsForever, you may be correct that there was the luck element involved, because Jason was betting "dozens" and not straight-ups based on the numbers of the wheel.

    It is, indeed, possible to predict where the ball will finish up at a land-based casino. I have seen it myself done. Jason is onto something, but the strategy he was using is flawed in the long run because of some other things that were in play at that time, but are not always. I know what they are, but you can understand why I would not want to divulge.

    Indeed, there are professional gamblers out there, and the casinos do NOT want you thinking that roulette can be beaten. They want it to stay a random game. Some times it is random, but when particular conditions line up, it becomes predictable and this can last for hours, days, weeks or even months. The key is to disguise your winnings through a variety of counter-measures.

    Thanks for replying, it's good to get a discussion going!
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    I forgot to mention that I agree about online computer roulette being fixed - there are many systems on the internet that are given away for free, as long as you sign up for this or that casino. The affiliate gets paid a commission, no matter if you win or lose. What a scam!
  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    The only way you can beat online casinos is when playing with a bonus and playing certain games with low house odds but these days most casinos have such indepth bonus terms with all the good games excluded that you can't really make any profit from it unless you're an advanced player with a big bankroll. I got out of that game years ago because it was becoming too time consuming, more casinos going rogue and not paying, just too much hassle in general.
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    I see, I never knew about that. I have only ever went to a land based casino, which is where I was demonstrated the way to beat roulette. I mean by using physics against the house edge.

    I think most people like to believe nonsense, don't they? That is...little work and effort will get you easy money. It's not like that in the real world, unfortunately.

    Another thing...aren't a lot of the online casinos based in tax havens? Probably very little customer protection!
  • Profile picture of the author proguy7
    Good research!

    Yes, it is interesting that respected scientists have conducted tests to show an edge can be gained at roulette.

    However, the problem I have with it is that because they are inexperienced (they are scientists, after all), they do not know what the true HIGH POTENTIAL gain can be. I suppose that only comes from actually being a professional gambler. Anyone can have a theory...

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