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Unread 21st February 2013, 11:00 AM   #51
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John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under impression that you claimed to be making about $1,500.00 per week. Am I confusing you with someone else?

If I do.... I appologize. If I don't.... oh well!
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$2000 for a website. Burning $2000 from your wallet for a website, not half as good as an HTML5 CSS3 that goes on the internet for free, or under $50. Its murdering money, and its in the wrong time zone as well. Think as the consumer. Would you pay $2000 for a website, wait, and have it delivered not nearly as good as a free one?
I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply.

You're comparing a $15 theme with a highly customized solution.

And as I've already said, most small business owners wouldn't even know what the hell a theme is.

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Unread 21st February 2013, 11:48 AM   #52
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Andy, you're comparing two different things.

I'm talking about highly customized solutions for industry professionals.

To give you an example - I built and sold a real estate content management system. It took me about 6 weeks to put it together. It ran an MS SQL database back end. It was highly customizable for the client. All I did was install it and they set it up. I sold numerous copies for $1,997 each.

This is why it would be a viable solution to the OP. How can I make $30,000 a month as a web designer? Sell niche websites - CMS systems for targeted industries. Once you get one on board, they tell others and it grows.

I know because I've done it. I'm not just saying this "because I think it could work".

Those themes you showed me include a single page and some PSD files. From memory my solution consisted of over 1,500 files. Once clients could see the functionality from the online demo - they were sold. Infact, it was easily worth $5,000+

I'm not knocking themes, they have their place.

I'm just saying, you're comparing apples and oranges.

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Unread 21st February 2013, 11:57 AM   #53
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Andy, you're comparing two different things.

I'm talking about highly customized solutions for industry professionals.

To give you an example - I built and sold a real estate content management system. It took me about 6 weeks to put it together. It ran an MS SQL database back end. It was highly customizable for the client. All I did was install it and they set it up. I sold numerous copies for $1,997 each.

This is why it would be a viable solution to the OP. How can I make $30,000 a month as a web designer? Sell niche websites - CMS systems for targeted industries. Once you get one on board, they tell others and it grows.

I know because I've done it. I'm not just saying this "because I think it could work".

Those themes you showed me include a single page and some PSD files. From memory my solution consisted of over 1,500 files. Once clients could see the functionality from the online demo - they were sold. Infact, it was easily worth $5,000+

I'm not knocking themes, they have their place.

I'm just saying, you're comparing apples and oranges.
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You're referring to another section. The PSD section. It's pointless arguing, you'll always defend your own product. Why you? Why not others? People will only go for the best bang for their buck, and unless you can provide that you don't have the sale.
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Unread 21st February 2013, 12:01 PM   #54
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JPeople will only go for the best bang for their buck, and unless you can provide that you don't have the sale.
Well we agree to disagree.

If you're happy to service clients for $15, then that's your call.

I'll happily take the $2,000+ clients all day, every day.

I'm outta here.

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A lot of good advice for you in this post. Some harsh, some friendly. But no clear how-to's, lol

Small wonder. The "how-to's" are what all the "guru systems" are made of. And those systems are nothing but a form of education.

From my experience, I can tell you that $500 CAN be turned into $30,000 by an EXPERT. But in the hands of a NEWBIE - it can even more quickly be turned into a $0.

So, the question should really have been: "I got $500. How best to apply it in online marketing?"

Note that I didn't say "How best to apply it to make $30,000" because that would be very wishy-washy.

You need to invest in some training. Time - and a little $$. The HARD PART is knowing "what kind of training" - because there's soooo much out there.

So, to make it easier for yourself, you need to know what exactly is it that's out there - and only THEN decide what you want to learn.

At the risk of sounding like I'm self-promoting, please have a look at my FREE (no strings attached) eBook in my signature. It's called "The Best IM Business Models" and it's a primer for anyone who wants to know "what exactly is out there".

Once you know, you should then look for a good course (many are free - including info on this Forum), to go deeper.

In the meantime - KEEP your $500. Perhaps you can have it earn some interest while you study?
Agree with this. With $500 you're more likely to burn through without nearly achieving any results. Keep your $500.
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Think as the consumer. Would you pay $2000 for a website, wait, and have it delivered not nearly as good as a free one?
Think like a business owner. Two thousand dollars is pretty cheap. A lot of business owners pay close to that or more in rent or their mortgage each month, so two thousand dollars for a website isn't a bad deal. Five or ten thousand dollars for a website isn't either.

Sure, they could try to figure out WordPress, download themes, figure out how to install them and then research what plugins they need to do what they need to do on the site, figure out how to pull all that together, and then probably spend hours fiddling with it all trying to get it to work and look the way they want it.

And for what? So they can spend under fifty bucks on a website?

Let's say, for example, their average profit on an order is $500. Is their time better spent on getting orders and fulfilling those orders, or fiddling around with a website?

The time they spend on their website is time they are not spending on their business. In this example, if in the hours they end up spending on their website, they could have gone out and gotten five orders, they would have been further ahead to pay someone $2000 to build their website.

Now let's say their typical profit on an order is $1000. Does it still make sense to spend their time messing around with their website when they could be generating more orders? What if their typical profit is $2500? One order and they've paid for their website. Why spend their own time when they can pay someone else?

Paying the lowest price is not always the best business decision. Most of the time, the business owner's time is best spent ON THEIR BUSINESS and not fiddling around with WordPress themes.


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hi everyone
well to make it short
i made some money lately and i want to invest it
i have around 500 invest and my goal is to reach 30K$ in 5 or 6 months
well i know it may sound impossible but i will do it
what i want to do is to invest everything,
i will go with ppc and solo ads and listbuilding
i need your opinions and advices
and please , idont need those comments like :nooo you can't do it just give up
i've heard a lot of them from my mother all those years
now time to work
Try to invest to eCommerce businesses..perhaps that could work for your goals..

200$=ecommerce website (try odesk for this price)
100$=Products
200$= VAs (3-4 hours for work will do)
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500$=Investment


that's the least thing I could think of...

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Congrats on your first step of having a goal and knowing what you want. Now you have to make the plan and stick to it. It may be a long and tough road but if you feel up for the challenge, then more power to you. Best of luck to you on this. And do keep us posted as I would be interested to know if you met your goal or not.

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