My Goal is 30K$ withing 5 months

by kary yucef 57 replies
hi everyone
well to make it short
i made some money lately and i want to invest it
i have around 500$to invest and my goal is to reach 30K$ in 5 or 6 months
well i know it may sound impossible but i will do it
what i want to do is to invest everything,
i will go with ppc and solo ads and listbuilding
i need your opinions and advices
and please , idont need those comments like :nooo you can't do it just give up
i've heard a lot of them from my mother all those years
now time to work
#main internet marketing discussion forum #30k$ #goal #months #withing
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  • Profile picture of the author masterjani
    Email list with a good blog with updated content, with solo ad buying will give a way to start your journey. good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post

    i have around 500 invest and my goal is to reach 30K$ in 5 or 6 months
    OK, you have a goal. So what's your business plan?

    What are you selling?

    Who are you selling it to?

    Why do they want and need this product or service?

    How can you reach this target market? (List all that apply.)

    What are their problems?

    What are their hot buttons?

    What do they really, really WANT?

    What sorts of testing and tracking will you be implementing?

    How do you plan to convert leads?

    What does your backend sales system look like?

    What sort of conversions are you estimating?

    What do you estimate as the cost to acquire a customer?

    What's your estimate for the lifetime value of the customer?

    What are you going to do to decrease the cost and increase the value?


    Not an exhaustive list, but answer those questions and you'll be one tiny step closer to your goal.

    Becky
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    • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
      Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

      OK, you have a goal. So what's your business plan?

      What are you selling?

      Who are you selling it to?

      Why do they want and need this product or service?

      How can you reach this target market? (List all that apply.)

      What are their problems?

      What are their hot buttons?

      What do they really, really WANT?

      What sorts of testing and tracking will you be implementing?

      How do you plan to convert leads?

      What does your backend sales system look like?

      What sort of conversions are you estimating?

      What do you estimate as the cost to acquire a customer?

      What's your estimate for the lifetime value of the customer?

      What are you going to do to decrease the cost and increase the value?


      Not an exhaustive list, but answer those questions and you'll be one tiny step closer to your goal.

      Becky

      this is what i was looking for ,; a serious comment that will actually help
      i will do niche research, i will study the market and offer something that people are looking to buy

      people who are really in need to buy it , a product that will resolve a problem

      i will also learn how to track, i bought certain wsos with good testimonials about tracking everything and ppc, and i will implent everything i learnt
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
        The mere fact that you are asking this questions tells me that it is going to be a tough go to make that happen. It all depends on your set-up, and the awesome list on one of the first reply's. No plan..... No amount of money will get you a return in this business.
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  • Profile picture of the author henryw1981
    I would advise you to invest in education. You need to know what you are doing with whatever niche you chose to go into. I love your goal setting. You sound determined and that will go a long way with the right education. Good luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    This totally depends on several factors that go beyond how you invest your money. Technically one person can start from scratch and make $30k in one month let alone 5-6 and spend nothing. Another can spend way more than what you're willing to invest and get jack squat.

    The techniques you're considering can be good if you're given the right direction from a mentor. Perhaps much of the $500 can be spent on that? Just sayin...
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    • Profile picture of the author MichelleN
      Good luck to you. I agree on the "education" investment. I love learning. But, unfortunately for me, I like to learn, more than "act." I think I buy every wso that comes along...
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  • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
    and also if anyone could advice me a good wso about ppc
    i have some but just want to addmore valuable information
    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton543
    In all honesty, its going to be very difficult unless you are selling a very popular product of some kind and market it really well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Casmer
    Hello,

    No question education is very important. Solo ads can be very effective if you make sure you target good ezines that match your product so their audience is a good fit.

    Best wishes!
    Jeff Casmer
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    You don't need WSOs. Just about everything you need can be found by searching Google or any other search engine. There's tons of free info out there. Take advantage of it. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezplr
    As long as you know what you're doing, a goal like that isn't impossible. Travlinguy is right there is plenty of free info out there that you can use to help you.
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    • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
      Originally Posted by ezplr View Post

      As long as you know what you're doing, a goal like that isn't impossible. Travlinguy is right there is plenty of free info out there that you can use to help you.
      thanks , and yes i'm already into it
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    First, learn how to capitalize letters.
    If you plan on making money, you need to learn how to model a more professional way of communicating with people. Its one thing to make spelling/grammar errors, but not capitalizing letters is an intentional form of laziness.

    This is why detectives get paid $120,000/yr to analyze things like writing or how people communicate. It says a lot about someones personality (whether you care or not).

    Second, your "plan" of making $30,000 in 6 months is very naive. Not because of the money amount (it could be $5 for all I care), but your overall "plan", is nonexistent.

    So your first job is to develop a real business plan or model.
    Without that, your mother is right, you won't make a dime. And you may want to listen to her.

    Investing $500 to make $30,000 doesn't tell us anything useful. You don't sound serious. You sound like you have no idea what you really need to do, and are expecting warriors to write our your business model. We can help you calibrate things, but without a foundation of some type, I don't see the point of your post. Any help you get will be just as vague as your post, which for all intensive purposes is a waste of time.

    So if you want "real advice". Sit down and write out a complete business model. Then come back and talk about the model, the testing you've done, why it will work, what purpose it will actually serve etc etc.

    As of right now, you have nothing but $500 and a bunch of random/vague ideas. If you went on shark tank, they'd kick you off the show in less than 3 seconds. WF is nothing like shark tank, but if it was, you'd see a lot less broke newbies around. Thats for sure.

    Do you even know what niche you plan on targeting? Maybe you should figure that out first?

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      First, learn how to capitalize letters.
      If you plan on making money, you need to learn how to model a more professional way of communicating with people. Its one thing to make spelling/grammar errors, but not capitalizing letters is an intentional form of laziness.

      This is why detectives get paid $120,000/yr to analyze things like writing or how people communicate. It says a lot about someones personality (whether you care or not).

      Second, your "plan" of making $30,000 in 6 months is very naive. Not because of the money amount (it could be $5 for all I care), but your overall "plan", is nonexistent.

      So your first job is to develop a real business plan or model.
      Without that, your mother is right, you won't make a dime. And you may want to listen to her.

      Investing $500 to make $30,000 doesn't tell us anything useful. You don't sound serious. You sound like you have no idea what you really need to do, and are expecting warriors to write our your business model. We can help you calibrate things, but without a foundation of some type, I don't see the point of your post. Any help you get will be just as vague as your post, which for all intensive purposes is a waste of time.

      So if you want "real advice". Sit down and write out a complete business model. Then come back and talk about the model, the testing you've done, why it will work, what purpose it will actually serve etc etc.

      As of right now, you have nothing but $500 and a bunch of random/vague ideas. If you went on shark tank, they'd kick you off the show in less than 3 seconds. WF is nothing like shark tank, but if it was, you'd see a lot less broke newbies around. Thats for sure.

      Do you even know what niche you plan on targeting? Maybe you should figure that out first?

      Good luck.
      sounds like one of those useless "comments" that mother was saying all days
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post

        sounds like one of those useless "comments" that mother was saying all days
        .... and that was the most stupid comment.

        Yuuzokun's comment, along with RHagel's, was the most sensible and information packed comment in this thread.

        Your answer says everything we need to know about you and your attitude.

        Grow up.
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        • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
          Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

          .... and that was the most stupid comment.

          Yuuzokun's comment, along with RHagel's, was the most sensible and information packed comment in this thread.

          Your answer says everything we need to know about you and your attitude.

          Grow up.
          thanks for your contribution
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      • Profile picture of the author Haroon Ballim
        Why ask for ideas when you go about treating others with such disdain . A fellow warrior took the time to post quite a useful comment , instead you respond disrespectfully by calling his comment useless .The first thing you should think of is changing your mindset and treating others like you would like them to treat you .

        Stop hiding behind your computer and learn to behave in a way that would make your mother proud. She knows far more about life than you do .

        Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post

        sounds like one of those useless "comments" that mother was saying all days
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    • Profile picture of the author opiel
      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      First, learn how to capitalize letters.
      If you plan on making money, you need to learn how to model a more professional way of communicating with people. Its one thing to make spelling/grammar errors, but not capitalizing letters is an intentional form of laziness.

      This is why detectives get paid $120,000/yr to analyze things like writing or how people communicate. It says a lot about someones personality (whether you care or not).

      Second, your "plan" of making $30,000 in 6 months is very naive. Not because of the money amount (it could be $5 for all I care), but your overall "plan", is nonexistent.

      So your first job is to develop a real business plan or model.
      Without that, your mother is right, you won't make a dime. And you may want to listen to her.

      Investing $500 to make $30,000 doesn't tell us anything useful. You don't sound serious. You sound like you have no idea what you really need to do, and are expecting warriors to write our your business model. We can help you calibrate things, but without a foundation of some type, I don't see the point of your post. Any help you get will be just as vague as your post, which for all intensive purposes is a waste of time.

      So if you want "real advice". Sit down and write out a complete business model. Then come back and talk about the model, the testing you've done, why it will work, what purpose it will actually serve etc etc.

      As of right now, you have nothing but $500 and a bunch of random/vague ideas. If you went on shark tank, they'd kick you off the show in less than 3 seconds. WF is nothing like shark tank, but if it was, you'd see a lot less broke newbies around. Thats for sure.

      Do you even know what niche you plan on targeting? Maybe you should figure that out first?

      Good luck.
      This is the best post in the whole thread.... but the OP doesn't seem to like it at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

      What's your plan? Listing several marketing channels isn't a plan. A plan is a market need, a product that suits that need, and a strategy to get your product to that market. Most businesses take multiple years to reach profitability; while it's nice to have a goal, "I have $500 and want to earn more than a year's salary in 5 months with no product and no strategy" isn't an encouraging start. Maybe a stop by the business section of your local bookstore is in order.
      yes that's why i said i will learn, my plan is the learn
      and the main purpose from this thread was to gather as many ideas as i can to start my journey
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  • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
    saying that I'm going to invest 500$ doesn't mean that 500$ will bring 30K$
    what I meant from it was that 500 will bring 20$ profit and then i'll invest that 520$ and make it 600$ and doing it again and again using what I have learnt
    I'm not a total newbie, I was doing PPC and made more than 50$ / day for many weeks, but i stopped due to some personal problems
    now i'm willing to start again and i'll update this thread as soon as i can
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  • Profile picture of the author ttomp13
    Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post

    hi everyone
    well to make it short
    i made some money lately and i want to invest it
    i have around 500 invest and my goal is to reach 30K$ in 5 or 6 months
    well i know it may sound impossible but i will do it
    what i want to do is to invest everything,
    i will go with ppc and solo ads and listbuilding
    i need your opinions and advices
    and please , idont need those comments like :nooo you can't do it just give up
    i've heard a lot of them from my mother all those years
    now time to work
    Nothing is impossible, and I'm glad to see that you're shooting for such a huge
    goal. The big key to your success is going to be to convince your readers
    that your list is worth opting into. Be different. Be spectacular. Be amazing.

    Although I think $30,000 is a little high, due to what you have to invest,
    what I would really look into is Youtube Videos, Guest Posting, and List
    Swaps. This is the main focus of my recent campaign, where I'm shooting
    for 10K subscribers in just 1 month. Most people think its impossible, but
    with the right plan, we can definitely prove people otherwise.

    Help people.
    Work hard.
    Work efficiently.

    If you're willing to do those 3 things, then you're going to be surprised by
    your results.

    Let me know if you need any help.
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  • Profile picture of the author kaymehelp
    My Friend it can be done but with the right plan
    don't listen to people who say it will be impossible
    the first thing you need to do is, figure out what is the audience you're targetting and what kind of products they want, this is very important, if you have the right product then bringing the traffic isn't a hard thing.
    and in 5 months you can make even more than 30K $
    to your sucess
    kayme
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  • Profile picture of the author sparkah
    you don't need a lot of traffic.

    you just need corporate traffic.

    companies pay big money for visibility in niche markets and contact lists
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Only way $500 is going to bring in 30k in 5 months is by selling drugs. Maybe you should try and scale up what got you the 500 dollars in the first place?
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    • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Only way $500 is going to bring in 30k in 5 months is by selling drugs.
      But there are other crimes that could reap him 30k in 5 months too!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
        Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

        But there are other crimes that could reap him 30k in 5 months too!!!
        Why wait for 5 months, a bank heist can net him that in 5 minutes
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    • Profile picture of the author CalinDan
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Only way $500 is going to bring in 30k in 5 months is by selling drugs.
      Hmmm... I think I'm in the wrong business.

      Cheers!
      -Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post

    hi everyone
    well to make it short
    i made some money lately and i want to invest it
    i have around 500 invest and my goal is to reach 30K$ in 5 or 6 months
    well i know it may sound impossible but i will do it
    what i want to do is to invest everything,
    i will go with ppc and solo ads and listbuilding
    i need your opinions and advices
    and please , idont need those comments like :nooo you can't do it just give up
    i've heard a lot of them from my mother all those years
    now time to work
    This is my best advice for you on this...

    You need to find people who have turned nothing into something, people who have made 30,000 in 5 months (or even less) because it's very possible.

    I'll say that again, it's VERY possible but it's not easy and the odds are against you but you can still make it happen.

    If someone says it can't be done, it's because they haven't done it and in their frame of reference it might be impossible. However, to someone who's done it, they have a completely different frame of reference.

    Besides that, it's hard to give you other concrete advice without knowing your current experience, skill, and knowledge level.

    Wishing you the best, don't let anything stand in your way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    It can be done but as others have said you need to first work out a proper business plan/model. After that you can focus on your target market, building a list, how you plan to drive traffic, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Keep your money in the bank and read many posts at this forum and other places until you’ll know what to do without feeling that you need to make questions.

    Don’t start spending without knowing what you are doing because in the end you will have debits instead of making money.

    Study internet marketing very well if you want to succeed. Internet marketing is a complex system, which depends on numerous details. It’s not something simple like the gurus present to the public.

    If the gurus would tell you the truth, you would understand that making money online is too complicated, and perhaps try to do something else to make money. They tell you that making money online is easy to make you buy their courses, one after another, always believing that ‘this time’ you will find a perfect money-making method that will solve all your problems…

    Don’t trust anyone when you’ll outsource something. You have to be very careful because many experienced service providers will take advantage of your ignorance. A newbie is an easy victim of those who are working online for years.

    You have to study internet marketing very well and know what to expect from each service provider and how to evaluate their work. If you know nothing or if you have superficial knowledge, you will be manipulated.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      i'll update this thread as soon as i can
      Not necessary - threads that are continued as "follow me" or "watch me" are not allowed.

      sounds like one of those useless "comments" that mother was saying all days
      With two references to your mother - I have to wonder how old you are. A common mistake made by people who set high goals when getting started - is to dismiss any comments that don't say what they want to hear.

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Not necessary - threads that are continued as "follow me" or "watch me" are not allowed.



        With two references to your mother - I have to wonder how old you are. A common mistake made by people who set high goals when getting started - is to dismiss any comments that don't say what they want to hear.

        kay
        i'm 27
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  • Profile picture of the author foenyxly
    Your dream is too small...my goal is to make $100K by Christmas of 2013. So far make $5000, $95K to go and March is around the corner...damn it!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jensha
    if you have $500 to invest, buy 3 complete websites either for adsense, amazon or clickbank then in 5 months you'll probably be able to earn the return on your investments
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur625
    PPC is good idea but you didn't mentioned the product or niche. Some niche have very high competition and you need high bid to compete in that niche.

    I'll suggest you to first make blueprint of you business you are in. calculate your PPC daily/monthly budget and estimate your ROI (Return On Investment) with that PPC campaign.

    Only large investment is not the key to success, Perfect planning and analysis are one of the imp keys to success in online business.

    One more thing, "You Can Do It, Just Give A Shot."

    Best luck for the business,

    Regrads,
    Ankur
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  • Profile picture of the author kaymehelp
    just leave the guy alone
    if you don't have something usefull for him just shut up and let him do what he want
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    • Profile picture of the author kary yucef
      Originally Posted by kaymehelp View Post

      just leave the guy alone
      if you don't have something usefull for him just shut up and let him do what he want
      already started
      i got a job from a client to create 2 sites for him (147$) that's 647$ until now
      i'll try to reach 1K$ then start investing in ppc and solo ads
      i'm now reading a wso about ppc and product creation
      i'll try to build a list with solo ads (found a great way in a forum, and it seems to work until now)
      once i finish reading i'll try to visit some product landing pages and see what i can get from there
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      • Profile picture of the author kaymehelp
        Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post

        already started
        i got a job from a client to create 2 sites for him (147$) that's 647$ until now
        i'll try to reach 1K$ then start investing in ppc and solo ads
        i'm now reading a wso about ppc and product creation
        i'll try to build a list with solo ads (found a great way in a forum, and it seems to work until now)
        once i finish reading i'll try to visit some product landing pages and see what i can get from there
        great as a start, why not focusing on website creation for now until you got a plan to your goal?
        maybe you can continue with this but if you make money with websites and you learn in the same time, you'll have much time and money to invest, just saying
        also catching emails using solo ads work like a charm, hope you find a way to do it fast
        to your sucess
        kayme
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      • Profile picture of the author Andy Fang
        Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post



        I'm a website designer
        $30K is a unrealistic goal for a webdesigner as a startup. People will tell you anything is possible, but with tons of free HTML5 themes out there for free you've got to be one hell of a web designer. ThemeForest charges beautiful themes for as little as $15, so offering value proposition is going to be a hard task. I'm supposing you haven't done any branding yet, so start with a WSO, then do excessive bumping. Oh, and make sure it doesn't appear the least ugly.
        Good luck with sales!
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by Andy Fang View Post

          $30K is a unrealistic goal for a webdesigner as a startup
          No it's not.

          Build niche websites that are laser targeted for specific industries, that can be sold numerous times over to industry professionals (real estate agents, dentists, optometrists, medical centers etc)

          I've done this successfully, and it's highly profitable.

          Build one site as a customized CMS - sell it over and over again at $1,997 a pop. 15 clients saying yes a month is definitely doable.
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          • Profile picture of the author Andy Fang
            Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

            No it's not.

            Build niche websites that are laser targeted for specific industries, that can be sold numerous times over to industry professionals (real estate agents, dentists, optometrists, medical centers etc)

            I've done this successfully, and it's highly profitable.

            Build one site as a customized CMS - sell it over and over again at $1,997 a pop. 15 clients saying yes a month is definitely doable.
            Think, as the consumer. Why hire a web designer, for thousands, when you can get beautiful themes on ThemeForest for $15? If you were to hire one, why him? Why not someone else? How will they find him? One does not speak for all, nor nearly.
            A web designer is a lot of hands on work, and isn't nearly as stable. To rely on a few customers is hell.
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            • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
              Originally Posted by Andy Fang View Post

              Why hire a web designer, for thousands, when you can get beautiful themes on ThemeForest for $15?
              What?

              When was the last time you spoke to a small business owner?

              You think they even know what a "theme" is?????
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              • Profile picture of the author Andy Fang
                Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

                What?

                When was the last time you spoke to a small business owner?

                You think they even know what a "theme" is?????
                Don't have to be sarcastic, I was pointing out the cold hard truth. Do a quick Google and you'll see many people know what a "theme" is. It's essentially an already done site, that you can personalize.
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          • Profile picture of the author opiel
            Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

            No it's not.

            Build niche websites that are laser targeted for specific industries, that can be sold numerous times over to industry professionals (real estate agents, dentists, optometrists, medical centers etc)

            I've done this successfully, and it's highly profitable.

            Build one site as a customized CMS - sell it over and over again at $1,997 a pop. 15 clients saying yes a month is definitely doable.
            John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under impression that you claimed to be making about $1,500.00 per week. Am I confusing you with someone else?

            If I do.... I appologize. If I don't.... oh well!
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            • Profile picture of the author Andy Fang
              Originally Posted by opiel View Post

              John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under impression that you claimed to be making about $1,500.00 per week. Am I confusing you with someone else?

              If I do.... I appologize. If I don't.... oh well!
              $2000 for a website. Burning $2000 from your wallet for a website, not half as good as an HTML5 CSS3 that goes on the internet for free, or under $50. Its murdering money, and its in the wrong time zone as well. Think as the consumer. Would you pay $2000 for a website, wait, and have it delivered not nearly as good as a free one?
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                Originally Posted by opiel View Post

                John, correct me if I am wrong but I am under impression that you claimed to be making about $1,500.00 per week. Am I confusing you with someone else?

                If I do.... I appologize. If I don't.... oh well!
                What are you talking about?

                Originally Posted by Andy Fang View Post

                $2000 for a website. Burning $2000 from your wallet for a website, not half as good as an HTML5 CSS3 that goes on the internet for free, or under $50. Its murdering money, and its in the wrong time zone as well. Think as the consumer. Would you pay $2000 for a website, wait, and have it delivered not nearly as good as a free one?
                I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply.

                You're comparing a $15 theme with a highly customized solution.

                And as I've already said, most small business owners wouldn't even know what the hell a theme is.
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                Originally Posted by Andy Fang View Post

                Think as the consumer. Would you pay $2000 for a website, wait, and have it delivered not nearly as good as a free one?
                Think like a business owner. Two thousand dollars is pretty cheap. A lot of business owners pay close to that or more in rent or their mortgage each month, so two thousand dollars for a website isn't a bad deal. Five or ten thousand dollars for a website isn't either.

                Sure, they could try to figure out WordPress, download themes, figure out how to install them and then research what plugins they need to do what they need to do on the site, figure out how to pull all that together, and then probably spend hours fiddling with it all trying to get it to work and look the way they want it.

                And for what? So they can spend under fifty bucks on a website?

                Let's say, for example, their average profit on an order is $500. Is their time better spent on getting orders and fulfilling those orders, or fiddling around with a website?

                The time they spend on their website is time they are not spending on their business. In this example, if in the hours they end up spending on their website, they could have gone out and gotten five orders, they would have been further ahead to pay someone $2000 to build their website.

                Now let's say their typical profit on an order is $1000. Does it still make sense to spend their time messing around with their website when they could be generating more orders? What if their typical profit is $2500? One order and they've paid for their website. Why spend their own time when they can pay someone else?

                Paying the lowest price is not always the best business decision. Most of the time, the business owner's time is best spent ON THEIR BUSINESS and not fiddling around with WordPress themes.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    With just $500 and your goal of $30,000 it's clearly not about
    where you invest the money but what kind of effort you're going
    to put in yourself.

    If you already had a product that was converting well and there
    was enough of a market you could conceivably use pay per click
    and other paid advertising starting slow and rolling out on a bigger
    scale with anything that worked.

    Outside of that you're probably just going to have to focus on
    getting really good at ONE thing and sell your services.

    If you do develop one skill or find someone you can outsource
    to you could use the $500 to do direct
    mail to sell your services.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
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    I believe you will succeed in making money if you execute what you have learnt or going to learn in life...lot of ppl here have all the education needed but all they lack is executing their plans
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    I think having a strategy in place first and mastermind with someone who know what they are doing to tell you if it has a shot or not, don't wait a year to find out you where going down the wrong path.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Andy, you're comparing two different things.

    I'm talking about highly customized solutions for industry professionals.

    To give you an example - I built and sold a real estate content management system. It took me about 6 weeks to put it together. It ran an MS SQL database back end. It was highly customizable for the client. All I did was install it and they set it up. I sold numerous copies for $1,997 each.

    This is why it would be a viable solution to the OP. How can I make $30,000 a month as a web designer? Sell niche websites - CMS systems for targeted industries. Once you get one on board, they tell others and it grows.

    I know because I've done it. I'm not just saying this "because I think it could work".

    Those themes you showed me include a single page and some PSD files. From memory my solution consisted of over 1,500 files. Once clients could see the functionality from the online demo - they were sold. Infact, it was easily worth $5,000+

    I'm not knocking themes, they have their place.

    I'm just saying, you're comparing apples and oranges.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Fang
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Andy, you're comparing two different things.

      I'm talking about highly customized solutions for industry professionals.

      To give you an example - I built and sold a real estate content management system. It took me about 6 weeks to put it together. It ran an MS SQL database back end. It was highly customizable for the client. All I did was install it and they set it up. I sold numerous copies for $1,997 each.

      This is why it would be a viable solution to the OP. How can I make $30,000 a month as a web designer? Sell niche websites - CMS systems for targeted industries. Once you get one on board, they tell others and it grows.

      I know because I've done it. I'm not just saying this "because I think it could work".

      Those themes you showed me include a single page and some PSD files. From memory my solution consisted of over 1,500 files. Once clients could see the functionality from the online demo - they were sold. Infact, it was easily worth $5,000+

      I'm not knocking themes, they have their place.

      I'm just saying, you're comparing apples and oranges.
      John,
      You're referring to another section. The PSD section. It's pointless arguing, you'll always defend your own product. Why you? Why not others? People will only go for the best bang for their buck, and unless you can provide that you don't have the sale.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Andy Fang View Post

        JPeople will only go for the best bang for their buck, and unless you can provide that you don't have the sale.
        Well we agree to disagree.

        If you're happy to service clients for $15, then that's your call.

        I'll happily take the $2,000+ clients all day, every day.

        I'm outta here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andy Fang
      Originally Posted by MktCoach View Post

      A lot of good advice for you in this post. Some harsh, some friendly. But no clear how-to's, lol

      Small wonder. The "how-to's" are what all the "guru systems" are made of. And those systems are nothing but a form of education.

      From my experience, I can tell you that $500 CAN be turned into $30,000 by an EXPERT. But in the hands of a NEWBIE - it can even more quickly be turned into a $0.

      So, the question should really have been: "I got $500. How best to apply it in online marketing?"

      Note that I didn't say "How best to apply it to make $30,000" because that would be very wishy-washy.

      You need to invest in some training. Time - and a little $$. The HARD PART is knowing "what kind of training" - because there's soooo much out there.

      So, to make it easier for yourself, you need to know what exactly is it that's out there - and only THEN decide what you want to learn.

      At the risk of sounding like I'm self-promoting, please have a look at my FREE (no strings attached) eBook in my signature. It's called "The Best IM Business Models" and it's a primer for anyone who wants to know "what exactly is out there".

      Once you know, you should then look for a good course (many are free - including info on this Forum), to go deeper.

      In the meantime - KEEP your $500. Perhaps you can have it earn some interest while you study?
      Agree with this. With $500 you're more likely to burn through without nearly achieving any results. Keep your $500.
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    Originally Posted by yuuzokun View Post

    hi everyone
    well to make it short
    i made some money lately and i want to invest it
    i have around 500 invest and my goal is to reach 30K$ in 5 or 6 months
    well i know it may sound impossible but i will do it
    what i want to do is to invest everything,
    i will go with ppc and solo ads and listbuilding
    i need your opinions and advices
    and please , idont need those comments like :nooo you can't do it just give up
    i've heard a lot of them from my mother all those years
    now time to work
    Try to invest to eCommerce businesses..perhaps that could work for your goals..

    200$=ecommerce website (try odesk for this price)
    100$=Products
    200$= VAs (3-4 hours for work will do)
    --------
    500$=Investment


    that's the least thing I could think of...
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    Congrats on your first step of having a goal and knowing what you want. Now you have to make the plan and stick to it. It may be a long and tough road but if you feel up for the challenge, then more power to you. Best of luck to you on this. And do keep us posted as I would be interested to know if you met your goal or not.
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