What am I doing wrong

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Guys,

I'm at the point of just giving up. I really am working hard and i'm posting articles, but I'm not making any money despite getting some clicks. I also place all the articles on article sites, I had someone place backlinks and I made a Facebook page...what am I doing wrong??


HealthDayTime - Your Health Center

it's been about 2 months that I've had this site going...i really don't know what to do anymore
#internet marketing #wrong
  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    I think your site needs to have better fonts and colours and you need to bring up a free offer to build a list. Then you can market your clients product that will help them in their life. Don't give up...I made no money for almost 2 years but then had breakthroughs that made me change the way I work. You will get there...
    • Profile picture of the author Masterofdisaster
      Originally Posted by kursat View Post

      I think your site needs to have better fonts and colours and you need to bring up a free offer to build a list. Then you can market your clients product that will help them in their life. Don't give up...I made no money for almost 2 years but then had breakthroughs that made me change the way I work. You will get there...
      thanks kursat...i know i need to give something free and thats exactly what I did, if you see the blinking button on the top left it's a free diet ebook that people get if they sign up.
  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    What am I doing wrong
    I'm at the point of just giving up.
    You answered your own question
  • Profile picture of the author Masterofdisaster
    I think i'm not getting quality traffic...what would be the best way to get that coming my way?
    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by Masterofdisaster View Post

      I think i'm not getting quality traffic...what would be the best way to get that coming my way?
      Specialize.

      Your site is trying to cover too many subjects. That kind of all-encompassing approach only works with tons of traffic. You should "niche down" into one area and concentrate on that. Then, when you're getting enough traction, put up a related site and let the established one help to build its rep. Then move on to another. In time, you'll have a group of health-related sites all helping to promote each other.

      It's also easier to market a specialty site. You'll tend to have more credibility when you tout for guest posting spots on other health blogs. Your product recommendations will also carry more weight.

      And you won't build a list very fast by just having a "free eBook" button on the corner of the page. You've got to really sell it to your visitors. Grabbing their email addresses is the most important task your home page needs to perform. Make your sign-up offer prominent and compelling.

      So don't give up- just re-focus your efforts. You've done a fair bit of work so far and it would be a shame to let it all go to waste.


      Frank
  • Profile picture of the author Opeleroy
    Your Facebook doesn't invite any interaction. Instead of just posting your blog articles, post quotes, quick tips and encourage your fans to like and share.

    Seems overly obvious, but the simple act of asking people to like and share your posts will dramatically improve your reach.
  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    Don't give up. Focus on driving more traffic to your site and building a list. Whatever you do, just don't give up.
  • Profile picture of the author sabatek
    Originally Posted by Masterofdisaster View Post

    Guys,

    I'm at the point of just giving up. I really am working hard and i'm posting articles, but I'm not making any money despite getting some clicks. I also place all the articles on article sites, I had someone place backlinks and I made a Facebook page...what am I doing wrong??


    HealthDayTime - Your Health Center

    it's been about 2 months that I've had this site going...i really don't know what to do anymore
    It's okay it feel like giving up but don't quit. Everyone goes through that. Now your site is very inconsistent. From the domain name, to the site name and the "get the free eBook" tucked in the corner.

    I don't know how many times I had to force myself to start from scratch.

    My advice is find a site that you admire and duplicate it. Have an image or your eBook in plain site with an op-tin box.

    It is said, people will spend 3 seconds on a site then leave and never return.

    What are you going to do(change) to make sure your message comes across in those 3 seconds?
  • Profile picture of the author 2point2
    I think 2 months is not enough time to give it a fair shot. You barely got your feet wet. You have good information on your site that I think plenty of people will appreciate. Dive into learning how to get targeted traffic and building a list. Do searches in this forum on those two subjects and you'll be on the path to success provided you don't give up.
  • Profile picture of the author Masterofdisaster
    appreciate everyones kind words...not only did it give me a burst of energy...but there's also quiet a few recommendations that i'll be applying here
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
    Originally Posted by Masterofdisaster View Post

    I also place all the articles on article sites
    I think you may not quite appreciate how article marketing works? This thread may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

    Originally Posted by Masterofdisaster View Post

    I had someone place backlinks
    Buying backlinks is likely to be part of "what you've done wrong", I'm afraid: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...d-tactics.html

    Originally Posted by Masterofdisaster View Post

    it's been about 2 months that I've had this site going...i really don't know what to do anymore
    It's quite difficult to comment without knowing what your intended traffic sources are, but the thing that immediately strikes me about the site is the lack of a prominently incentivized opt-in at the top of the home page. I see the "get your free ebook" button, but that isn't going to cut it at all.

    Here are the main reasons why that won't work ...

    (i) The opt-in isn't on the home page

    (ii) It isn't incentivized at all: nowhere is there a list of its benefits to make it look/sound attractive

    (iii) It doesn't appear to be subject-matched at all with the site (the site's called "Healthy Days" and the main items shown on the home page are about swimming, fruit and knowing your real age, but the e-book is apparently about weight-loss?!) so there's no apparent targeting (these are difficult and competitive enough niches/markets even with highly accurate targeting: it won't be easy to sell anything without that)

    (iv) There's no anti-spam reassurance, and no explanation of what your subsequent email series will be about or why people might want it and how else they'll benefit from giving your their email address

    I think these two threads will help you, and that you should have a read through and think about them before assuming that "fixing your site" is suddenly going to produce income ...

    This thread covers "the essentials of list-building" (and that IS what your income will be dependent on), and ...

    this post includes a little explanation of the main purposes that your "free report" should serve for your business.

    Good luck!
  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    I'll give you my feedback. Here they are:

    Positives:

    1. Your site has great design that matches your niche.
    2. Your content are well written and I can see that you put effort into writing those content.
    3. You're building a list.

    Now on to the negatives...

    1. You don't have the picture of the eBook on your squeeze page! Create a cover and then make it 3D - this will help squeeze page conversion MUCH better.

    2. You don't have a strong call to action on your page. Add some buttons, not just text link there to force people to click.

    3. Don't wait for free traffic. If you can spend $50 to get traffic, you can try banner advertising. Or if you want free traffic, contribute to a forum and put your web links on your signature.

    Those are my 2 cents. Don't give up! You're doing well on the site and content creation. Now you must do the marketing part.

    Don't give up until you have nothing less. Keep up the good work!
  • Profile picture of the author Michael08
    Originally Posted by Masterofdisaster View Post

    Guys,

    I'm at the point of just giving up. I really am working hard and i'm posting articles, but I'm not making any money despite getting some clicks. I also place all the articles on article sites, I had someone place backlinks and I made a Facebook page...what am I doing wrong??


    HealthDayTime - Your Health Center

    it's been about 2 months that I've had this site going...i really don't know what to do anymore
    It takes more than 2 months - keep going at it
    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
      Originally Posted by Michael08 View Post

      It takes more than 2 months - keep going at it
      Please excuse the observation that in my opinion this is completely inappropriate advice.

      I think that if you have a good look at the site (did you actually look at it at all?), and read the comments above, rather than just trying to make a quick, reassuring-sounding post, you'll quickly appreciate that the fundamental nature of the problems here are such that there's actually no point at all in "keeping going at it" in its present form. That can lead only to further frustration and disillusionment, and that helps nobody.

      Clearly a major change in perspective and approach are needed, here.
  • Profile picture of the author imoffersonline
    hey friend you are doing good.

    bookmark your site , on high pr bookmarking site these are 35-36 have pr4-pr9.

    1.you can use fb -pr9 create page create some content and post it here.
    2.crate twitter account -pr 10 , twitter page and post your content here and attach the twitter page with fb.
    3. make a pinterest account and pin some images and give some description.

    then hire on fiverr someone senuke gigs , link pyramid and target only $20 for1 per week.

    guess what your serp improves.
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    if your content is unique then its gud. you can spam in tier2 and tier3 there is quantity , but in tier1 quality required.
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    you can hire someone on fiverr to create videos for you site or product review 1-2 minute for $5 it will help you.
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    you can choose few fiverr gigs create bookmarks for you .
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    submit your rss feed weekly .
    stay calm be positive . go slow . just try it.
    same procedure my few site are on #1 ranking in google for 3-4 words{longtail keyword} traffic less than 500. its enough but google rank my site pr-2.

    i m not promoting anything .
    you have to wait for upto 6 month for your site.after 6 month atleast you can get the desired result.

    you should consider "google domain age " factor also.

    All the best
  • Profile picture of the author Masterofdisaster
    much appreciated my friend
  • Profile picture of the author sparkah
    have you asked anybody how long it took to build a subscriber base that buys from you? Most of the people I asked say 2-3 years.

    2-3 months is hobby time.

    Sorry about that tough love.
  • Profile picture of the author Masterofdisaster
    then seems like i've been talking to the wrong people...since it seems to me that such a large amount of members here claim to make money in just a couple of weeks...this is a reality check..
  • Profile picture of the author astronomynerd
    Mate, don't give up, you're doing great. Try to build a big list and make sure you do your keyword research first! That's very important.
  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    If you are ready to give up after 2 months, you should. Online marketing is no different than any other business. It takes a lot of time and hard work.

    I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but if after two months you are considering giving up, running a business is probably not for you.
    • Profile picture of the author Masterofdisaster
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      If you are ready to give up after 2 months, you should. Online marketing is no different than any other business. It takes a lot of time and hard work.

      I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but if after two months you are considering giving up, running a business is probably not for you.
      lol...i was sure there would be one guy who would "keep it real" and give a line like "not trying to sound like a jerk" and right after says something completely douchey....thanks for your kind words sir...really happy there's little of you here in the forum
  • Profile picture of the author mdan287
    Before giving up, check this thread http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...e-up-read.html
  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    First of all OP it is good that you asked for help. No one that gets into online marketing does everything right their first time trying.

    Okay, you have chosen to work in the health niche, which is good. However, this is a highly competitive niche and right now there's nothing special about the info you're offering, or the way you offer it.

    When looking at your site I like the design, but the content makes me go "meh."

    There's literally tons of places online to find this info for free.

    What you've done is create a site that is trying to be all things to all people. For a one-person operation this isn't going to work. I know because I've been there and done that - FAIL. You cannot compete with the big health sites that spend thousands on SEO and marketing.

    So, my advice is to not add any more to this site. Instead. Pick ONE niche from the articles that you've written and build an entire site around that topic. Here are your current choices: Hair Care, Weight Loss Remedies, Laser Eye Treatment, Diabetes, Wrinkles (anti-aging), Acne, Dental Care, Eye Care and Men's Health.

    Each one of those topics can become a niche authority site, which is what you should be focused on building. Choose ONE, do extensive research on what people want to know about that topic. Create 500 to 800 word articles for that topic and post them on the site.

    Do good keyword research to find what keyword phrases people use when searching for this topic. Include those keywords in your articles and other pages. Find BUYER keywords (for specific niche products) and only offer products that people are currently buying.

    Look into learning about how to review and promote Amazon products on your site.

    Look into learning about how to find hot affiliate products (Amazon, Clicbank, JVZOO, etc.) and write product reviews that subtly PRE-SELL affiliate products. That is how you will make affiliate money. Simply posting links without the pre-sell won't work, as you found out.

    Rinse and Repeat for each niche topic.

    This is going to take more time, work and commitment to doing it right, but making these changes will lead to your ultimate success.
    • Profile picture of the author Masterofdisaster
      Originally Posted by Fun to Write View Post

      First of all OP it is good that you asked for help. No one that gets into online marketing does everything right their first time trying.

      Okay, you have chosen to work in the health niche, which is good. However, this is a highly competitive niche and right now there's nothing special about the info you're offering, or the way you offer it.

      When looking at your site I like the design, but the content makes me go "meh."

      There's literally tons of places online to find this info for free.

      What you've done is create a site that is trying to be all things to all people. For a one-person operation this isn't going to work. I know because I've been there and done that - FAIL. You cannot compete with the big health sites that spend thousands on SEO and marketing.

      So, my advice is to not add any more to this site. Instead. Pick ONE niche from the articles that you've written and build an entire site around that topic. Here are your current choices: Hair Care, Weight Loss Remedies, Laser Eye Treatment, Diabetes, Wrinkles (anti-aging), Acne, Dental Care, Eye Care and Men's Health.

      Each one of those topics can become a niche authority site, which is what you should be focused on building. Choose ONE, do extensive research on what people want to know about that topic. Create 500 to 800 word articles for that topic and post them on the site.

      Do good keyword research to find what keyword phrases people use when searching for this topic. Include those keywords in your articles and other pages. Find BUYER keywords (for specific niche products) and only offer products that people are currently buying.

      Look into learning about how to review and promote Amazon products on your site.

      Look into learning about how to find hot products and write product reviews that subtly PRE-SELL affiliate products. That is how you will make affiliate money. Simply posting links without the pre-sell won't work, as you found out.

      Rinse and Repeat for each niche topic.

      This is going to take more time, work and commitment to doing it right, but making these changes will lead to your ultimate success.
      thanks for the advice my friend. The only thing about making this a sub-niche is that i'm scared I won't have enough products to promote...or that if I recommend a bunch of different products in the same sub-niche (say anti aging) I may sound a bit two-sided by recommending one product and then recommending a competitors product.
  • Profile picture of the author KevL
    Originally Posted by Masterofdisaster View Post

    Guys,

    I'm at the point of just giving up. I really am working hard and i'm posting articles, but I'm not making any money despite getting some clicks. I also place all the articles on article sites, I had someone place backlinks and I made a Facebook page...what am I doing wrong??


    HealthDayTime - Your Health Center

    it's been about 2 months that I've had this site going...i really don't know what to do anymore
    This reply may come across as harsh - please take it in the spirit it's intended, which is as a helpful wakeup call to someone who clearly needs a bit of cold water thrown at them (and we've all been there, I know I have, regularly!!)

    A few things:

    First - you're at the point of giving up after 2 months...????!!!!

    For many of us it took MUCH more than a few months to make our fist penny online - try a few years... I have no idea how long it took me, and how many flop websites I created - but it was a LOT more than a few months I can tell you that much.

    You need to be prepared for the fact that it may take you a LOT more than a couple of months and a lot more than one attempt with one website.

    This isn't for everyone, and if 2 months is about your limit, then it may well not be for you. I know lots and lots of people who have given up after even less time than this, because they read somewhere that people were making a fortune online, jumped in - they didn't make money over night, so they gave up. .

    You need to learn from your mistakes, you need to find what you're good at, figure out where you excel, find good niches and so on. This all takes time and effort.

    Secondly - I honestly would re-think your plans with your current website.

    What you've done, is picked one of the most competitive and broad niches that exists, the health niche, you've created another one of MILLIONS of other websites competing in this niche, you don't appear to have done any real search term research or on page SEO (your page title is "Healthday") - you seem to think that you've done enough to gain organic traffic because you've posted articles in directory sites & had someone building some links for you - and now you're considering giving up because you're not making money after a couple of months.

    I'm not trying to put you down here because actually what you have done is very similar to what most of us do when we start out - if I remember correctly my first website was in a very competitive niche (money) and I started a website with a handful of articles and some backlinks and then waited eagerly for the commissions to roll in and wondered what the heck was going on.

    But I didn't give up, I never even contemplated the idea of giving up because I understood that I needed to keep trying & learning - and that I'd get there eventually.

    Buy maybe web marketing isn't for you - and again this isn't a put down, but it's not for everyone. If you enjoy it, if it excites you - then great, but if you really don't enjoy it then maybe it's not for you.

    Personally, as much as it annoyed me that I wasn't good at it... I had the "bug" from day one, and the first time I made just a few dollars online I was elated, it was like catching a MASSIVE fish. That's a good analogy I think - I like fishing, and when I first started as a kid I couldn't fish to save my life, but from having that very first bite, and the excitement of it, I was hooked (excuse the pun) from then on, and I often sat at the side of pools / lakes for a full day without one single bite, but it didn't stop me from keeping on going back & setting up again, and I learned a bit each time which make me better at it as I went along. I still SUCK at fishing in comparison to many people, and possible I suck at web marketing in comparison to some too, but I don't care. I love it, and I'm constantly learning & improving - and I would never give up.

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