Want to outsource but don't know how

23 replies
Hi guys! I have an online retail business selling made to order items. The production is mostly alreay outsourced. I have loads of ideas on how my business can be huge but I am so bogged down in every day stuff I just have no time to implement them!

I don't want to take on any employees so I guess the answer is to outsource. I have already used fiver for a couple of little bitty jobs which worked out ok but I think I need a couple of regular very reliable people working from home. Some of the stuff can be done remotely and for some they would need to be local to me so I can take stuff to them etc...

How do you go about finding the right people for the job?

I must admit I do have issues trusting anyone else to get the job done right and I would maybe consider asking a family member first for that reason! Please share your experiences
#outsource
  • Profile picture of the author SEO Haven
    Go to Elance, Odesk, Guru, Freelancer, etc. and post a job there. When people start bidding on your project, look at their ratings and read the reviews other people have left them for similar-type jobs. Easy peasy
    Signature
    All-In-One SEO & Marketing Service
    If you want the upper hand over your competitors, here's your chance.
    SEO, SMM, Google Local Optimization & Professional Internet Marketing done-for-you.
    Never worry about Traffic & Lead Generation again! Click Here for more info.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7768247].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author astronomynerd
      Originally Posted by SEO Haven View Post

      Go to Elance, Odesk, Guru, Freelancer, etc. and post a job there. When people start bidding on your project, look at their ratings and read the reviews other people have left them for similar-type jobs. Easy peasy
      I couldn't agree more - great advice!
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7768276].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author mdan287
    I would recommend you to check out oDesk.com. You will get many skilled people are ready to work for you remotely.
    Before hiring anyone, you must check there past work history and feedback. Also make sure to interview the guy.

    Hope this help.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7768281].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author polkadot100
      Thanks guys I will try those! What about the local stuff, would you put an ad in the paper or something?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7768298].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Social Juice
    There is a lot of trial and error in outsourcing. Here is a must read thread.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-way-life.html
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7768365].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Lyfe Lyte
    I've outsourced for years and have had multiple, multiple assistants over seas full-time...


    Elance, Odesk, Guru, Freelancer...hmmmm no, no, no and no....

    If I am looking for one time jobs...this yes I use this...have used them for years and will continue to.

    For someone to work for me full time? Nope....

    Most people looking for work on these type of jobs are just looking for 1 time deals...
    Even if you find someone to hire full time..they will more than likely be having other offers for one time jobs still coming in...you will most likely find them unreliable.

    This is from my past experience...and seen it happen to many others as well.

    For full time assistants...I would go to actual sites that people are going to look for an actual full time job..not just one off deals...you'll have a much higher success rate



    Lyfe
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7769702].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author ae2080
      You can find very reliable workers in the Philippians. I have had pretty good experiences with them in the past.

      All they want to do is please you. I have had no problem trusting them.

      They will take some training at first, but it is well worth it in the long run.

      Onlinejobs.ph is a great source to find quality workers. The only downside is that there is a fee just to hire someone.

      In my opinion it is worth it to take the risks on outsources.

      If you don't, how are you going to be able to grow your business as large as you have in mind?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7769786].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author polkadot100
        Wow thanks everyone so far for sharing
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7769942].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Chris_Willow
    If you go the Elance route, be sure to understand exactly what it is you need, and be able to explain it in super simple terms.

    Most freelancers on these sites work like robots- you tell them what to do and they do it. If they mess up, it's probably your fault for not explaining everything.

    To me it sounds like you've got the ideas and need someone to make them happen with minimal input. Elance isn't like that most of the time.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7769752].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author FantaMan
    Freelancer and design guru are my favourates for outsourcing. There is no easy answer, its simply trial and error!

    Just stay onto a good one!!!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7773015].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author polkadot100
    Originally Posted by awesummer View Post

    Hmm. What do you mean by "regular?" Does it mean you're looking for full time remote workers? If so, then I would highly recommend for you to go and check out Staff.com. It's less of a hassle since you don't need to put up job postings and you'll be able to look for exceptional candidates according to their skills.
    It's perfectly normal to have second thoughts on hiring a remote worker since you haven't met him personally and because you're going to work far away from each other. That's why I strongly suggest to hire someone full time. This way, you'll be able to develop your working relationship and also develop a stronger trust for your team.
    Well they would be part time but I would probs need them to do a bit of work every day. However I don't really want to have to actually employ someone, I would prefer they were self employed iyswim.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7776750].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    Just get the WSO by Lyfe (it's in his sig ^^) That will save you a ton of time, money & headaches.

    Lyfe knows what he is talking about. Listen to his advice & get his guide.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7777566].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    I used to use elance before Fiverr, but not any more. They are just too expensive. Well, the same goes for odesk and other services. Fiverr is the king and there is no queen. Other places charge a lot more. Yeah, often for the same service. I prefer to not put all my eggs in one basket, but Fiverr is head and shoulders above most other services. I also use MTURK from amazon. It is great for small tasks, but that might be too much work for you.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7778580].message }}
  • Originally Posted by polkadot100 View Post

    ...I think I need a couple of regular very reliable people working from home. Some of the stuff can be done remotely and for some they would need to be local to me so I can take stuff to them etc. How do you go about finding the right people for the job? I must admit I do have issues trusting anyone else to get the job done right and I would maybe consider asking a family member first for that reason!

    Here are the main things you should consider, based on what you said: You want to hire dedicated local subcontractors. You want those subcontractors to be persons whom your family, friends and colleagues can vouch for. With these requirements, here's something you can try:


    1. Post a job ad in your website that outlines, in detail, the following pieces of information: Daily or weekly or monthly tasks you want done; Wages you're willing to pay and relevant payment terms or schedules; Rewards or incentives for excellent performance; other related details; and the exact steps interested parties must do to continue with their application.


    2. Post the link to your job ad along with an enticing description in your public Facebook Wall. In the description, ask your Facebook friends to share your post with their own network of Facebook friends. This way, interested parties can be locals whom your Facebook friends can vouch for.


    3. Develop an enticing Facebook PPC ad for your job post. Configure your Facebook PPC ad to be an exclusive ad for Facebook users in your target local areas, among other specific targeting options (age, gender, interests/hobbies and so on). This way, you can get local applicants who match your other targeting specifications.
    Signature
    • Deep Learning & Machine Vision Engineer: ARIA Research (Sydney, AU)
    • Founder: Grayscale (Manila, PH) & SEO Campaign Manager: Kiteworks, Inc. (SF, US)
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7778633].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author sabatek
    Originally Posted by polkadot100 View Post

    Hi guys! I have an online retail business selling made to order items. The production is mostly alreay outsourced. I have loads of ideas on how my business can be huge but I am so bogged down in every day stuff I just have no time to implement them!

    I don't want to take on any employees so I guess the answer is to outsource. I have already used fiver for a couple of little bitty jobs which worked out ok but I think I need a couple of regular very reliable people working from home. Some of the stuff can be done remotely and for some they would need to be local to me so I can take stuff to them etc...

    How do you go about finding the right people for the job?

    I must admit I do have issues trusting anyone else to get the job done right and I would maybe consider asking a family member first for that reason! Please share your experiences
    Go to: Outsourcing & Offshoring to the Philippines | 123Employee.com

    If you want to get a month FREE to build trust. Go here and sign up.

    When you login in to your back office scroll down and you will see a link to 123 employee-one month free. Normally it's $347 per month service fee and the $199 set up fee, that’s a savings of $546.

    But Russell Brunson of Instant Traffic Secrets has the "hook up".
    Signature
    Here's The #1 Way To Earn Money As An Author - And I'll Prove It To You!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7778656].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I had terrible experiences with service providers at Elance and Odesk and I saw that these sites don’t protect the customer.

    If you want to be sure that you can trust the people who will work for you, you have to pay them. Don’t try to find cheap solutions because in the end they cost a lot more, and you are not safe. Look for respectable people who have a serious business. You can use Google to find better solutions than service providers that offer their services at sites like Elance and Odesk. Fiverr is OK only for simple tasks.

    It will be better if you will find people you know, like relatives and friends, or friends of friends. If you know someone who can recommend a service provider this will be better for you.

    You should be very careful when you trust someone for a certain job because you depend on this person, and your business depends on this person.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7778733].message }}
  • Before you start outsourcing, it's best if you know what you're getting into. Before you hire your first employee, you should have a game plan: what kind of employees you want to hire, what jobs you want to outsource, how to train them, how to manage them, and what your outsourcing goals should be. I recommend you go to replacemyself.com and sign up for their free webinar on outsourcing for beginners. It's free and it's give you ideas on how to outsource to the Philippines (which is completely different from outsourcing to India). The video below can also give you pointers on what to expect when outsourcing.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7783625].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author tamalanwar
    Hey you can start with odesk, pay by the hour for small tasks. Start small.

    You can read my review on odesk: oDesk Review - BlogKori (at the end I have many tips for outsourcing)
    Signature
    Tamal Anwar C.
    I transform old outdated 1990s/2000s websites
    into a fresh site of present time
    Learn How
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7783766].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author DonnyBoy
    [DELETED]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7784006].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author polkadot100
      Thanks again guys will check all those out. I am just breaking down the different jobs I can dish out and it seems a lot less daunting. I think I will just try a couple first and go from there. At the moment there are some things I can't see how I will outsource but let's see how it goes!

      Oh I can see myself on my sunbed now while the £££ s roll in haha

      Seriously though I am really excited. Me and the other half have really pushed this as far as we can with the time we have and have so many ideas so the extra time this buys will be put to good use!
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7784238].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author panic
        One main thing that I have learned is to test out a lot of people with small projects and keep using the ones that give you the best results.
        Signature

        ~

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7784521].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author T086
    Just find some poor Indians and pay them $1 a day.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7785488].message }}

Trending Topics