If you had NO money how would you start

by Woodward82 87 replies
Ok, i know the NORMAL answers to this. Sell something, its a business , so if you dont have money dont venture into it... minus all of that.. my question is..

If someone were to be saving money but wanted a jump start on getting some content , customer report , and just a jump start before they went and got the domain name and hosting, what would you suggest?
#main internet marketing discussion forum #money #start
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  • Profile picture of the author pro2sell
    I would read this forum.

    If you absolutely don't know where to start then jump here
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    • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
      Originally Posted by pro2sell View Post

      I would read this forum.

      If you absolutely don't know where to start then jump here
      I think that thread needs to be stickied (if it isn't already) because this question comes up way too often.
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      • Profile picture of the author KevL
        Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

        I think that thread needs to be stickied (if it isn't already) because this question comes up way too often.
        But that thread is "what to do if you're desperate" - and the OP here isn't asking about what to do if you're desperate, he's asking for guidance on what to do if he wants to get started but hasn't saved up any budget yet - which I see as an entirely different question. Maybe I misunderstood the OP

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        • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
          Originally Posted by KevL View Post

          But that thread is "what to do if you're desperate" - and the OP here isn't asking about what to do if you're desperate, he's asking for guidance on what to do if he wants to get started but hasn't saved up any budget yet - which I see as an entirely different question. Maybe I misunderstood the OP

          Cheers
          I'd imagine that a person who wants to start a business on a shoestring budget isn't far from desperate. I'm sure a lot of the advice given could help considering that a lot of the advice is aimed at people with little or no money to start.
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          • Profile picture of the author KevL
            Originally Posted by Sean T Alexandre View Post

            I'd imagine that a person who wants to start a business on a shoestring budget isn't far from desperate. I'm sure a lot of the advice given could help considering that a lot of the advice is aimed at people with little or no money to start.
            In my opinion, there's a big difference between wanting to get started without money because you have the hunger but don't get have a budget, and just want to get doing something - and being "desperate".
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    If you literally had like zero cash?

    Start offering services on fiverr, the warriors for hire section, and advertise in your sig.
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    Get A Job!
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      After that, I'd establish my credit resources. After that, I'd grow my savings. After that, I'd acquire assets that can be quickly liquidated at higher market value. After that, I'd continue growing my sustainable income, my credit resources, my savings, my assets, and also establish a good network. After that, I'd analyze my financial portfolio and study if I'm ready to invest some of my time and some of my credit resources in ventures that are fundamentally, logically and realistically profitable according to my thoughtful projections...
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    • Profile picture of the author Newbieee
      Originally Posted by Malcolm Thomas View Post

      Get A Job!
      I was gonna say that. hahah
      At least someone said this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Newbieee
        Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

        Get a job and save up some capital. That's actually how I started years ago.
        Originally Posted by Kim Standerline View Post

        Truthfully?

        I'd try and find a job offline, there's no real money to be made in IM if you don't have at least a few dollars to start with.

        Kim
        Originally Posted by Mark72 View Post

        I would get a job, open a separate bank account for my online activities, and put at least 10% of my earnings in it.

        I would then hire a (reputable) coach with a proven track record to teach me about list building, sales funnels, driving traffic etc.

        Any remaining funds would be spent on paid traffic to get the ball rolling.
        Originally Posted by todawg_not View Post

        What is ridiculous question.

        Go find a job.

        That's why you have no money because you treat this like a hobby not a real business.

        Your not willing to invest in tools and education when your always wanting things for free

        There you go you want the truth

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo


        Originally Posted by JasonBennet View Post

        I personally would get a job first to make some money so that I will be able to put some money aside for my online business. There is nothing wrong with having a job while having a dream to build a long term internet business.

        The next thing that I will do is to decide on one mentor that I will follow and just take the required action.
        Then i realized so many others said the same.

        Of cos u can make money online with low or in rare cases, 0 investment.
        But i personally feel its easier to get a job and work 1st.
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        • Profile picture of the author MoneyMeek
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          Be a DIY-er
          All successful Internet Marketers start out as Do-It-Yourself-ers. Before you have the cash-flow needed to outsource certain functions of your business, commit to learn at least one of the following internet marketing skills:

          Copywriting
          WordPress
          Search Engine Optimization
          Adwords
          Media Buying
          Graphic Design
          Product Creation
          Email Marketing
          Other Traffic Generation Methods (Article Marketing, Video Marketing, Offline, etc.)

          Most marketers, myself included, had to learn every aspect of the business, because we simply couldn’t afford to hire a team to do it all for us when we were first starting out. This is not a bad thing either. It is actually a strong advantage that supports your success in the long run.

          Once you develop one of the skills that you need to make money online, you can hire yourself out to other marketers to fund your internet marketing empire.

          I have actually coached “marketers” who feel that if you actually have to “work,” then you are not truly an internet marketer. This is very lazy thinking and complete bull sh*t. Few people with that mindset even get their businesses off the ground. Most waste time and money, and eventually end up frustrated.

          The truth is advertising costs money. Hosting costs money. Outsourcing costs money. When people ask me how can they make money in IM with “no money down,” my answer is always “You have to work!”

          I make excellent income from affiliate marketing, product creation, and email marketing, but even now, I take on clients for copywriting and info product/course creation. Why? Because I like the challenge of offline business, and I can charge whatever I want.

          I run several businesses, both offline and online. In the end, it is not the means, but the end result that matters. Each week, the money that pours into my Paypal account comes from no less than 10 different products or projects.

          The more skills you develop, the better your business runs. You will know how to hire competent freelancers. You will know how to do things on your own in a pinch. You will become more and more valuable, able to charge more for your services, should you need to. And ultimately, your safety net grows, which gives you true financial security.

          Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author KevL
      Those people telling the OP to "Get a JOB!" are assuming that the OP doesn't have a job already... Where does he state that he doesn't?

      He is asking for an idea for what to do if someone has no money - i.e no expendable income. Having a job doesn't always equal expendable income, as we all know... someone could very easily have no money, but have a job - because they simply spend as much as they earn or more.
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    Worm farming. Definitely worm farming.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    I would put on my Batman suit and stand on the street corner with a cardboard sign that says "Need gas money for batmobile"

    Made $35 in an hour doing that on a dare once. True story.
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    • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      I would put on my Batman suit and stand on the street corner with a cardboard sign that says "Need gas money for batmobile"

      Made $35 in an hour doing that on a dare once. True story.
      ...but then OP would need money to buy bat outfit
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      • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
        I don't have to wonder how I would start if I had no money because
        I did that years ago.

        The simple solution that doesn't require any investment is to sell
        your services.

        What can you do?

        Who does that skill have value to?

        Approach the people your skill has value to and offer to work with
        them.

        Kindest regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author agmccall
        Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

        ...but then OP would need money to buy bat outfit
        I think a speedo and a bath towel would work
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        • Profile picture of the author agmccall
          Why not start writing articles and doing research, and when you can finally afford about $30.00 per month, (working part time at any fast food joint would cover most of your expenses) you can will be ready to go.
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    • Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      I would put on my Batman suit and stand on the street corner with a cardboard sign that says "Need gas money for batmobile"

      Made $35 in an hour doing that on a dare once. True story.
      Now they are passing laws to ban there all over the planet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gonzosan
      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

      I would put on my Batman suit and stand on the street corner with a cardboard sign that says "Need gas money for batmobile"

      Made $35 in an hour doing that on a dare once. True story.
      lol. I live in Vegas so that might be a profitable side business on the strip.
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  • Profile picture of the author reneesbertrand
    You can provide services or start from any Web 2.0 website where you can build your pages for free and get into affiliate marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    I personally would get a job first to make some money so that I will be able to put some money aside for my online business. There is nothing wrong with having a job while having a dream to build a long term internet business.

    The next thing that I will do is to decide on one mentor that I will follow and just take the required action.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    As Andrew said I'd do exactly what I did way back when.

    I'd Walk down any business street near me and talk with the owners of small businesses. I would Find out what I could do to help them and then help them for a fee.

    The money is instant and the opportunities unlimited.

    It's nowhere near as easy as online only Internet Marketing, however it's as close to a sure thing as you can get. In fact I would call it a sure thing.

    Then I would use some of that money to pay for all the things needed to go online again.

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  • Profile picture of the author Abbas8
    There are tons of way to get started, just browse around the forum, tons of useful threads.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimK06
    Originally Posted by Woodward82 View Post

    Ok, i know the NORMAL answers to this. Sell something, its a business , so if you dont have money dont venture into it... minus all of that.. my question is..

    If someone were to be saving money but wanted a jump start on getting some content , customer report , and just a jump start before they went and got the domain name and hosting, what would you suggest?
    Forums are normally free. Don't leave out Facebook and twitter. As well as youtube. You can build likes and youtube subscribers for your brand way before you have anything to sale.

    You just have to be knowledgable on the niche you choose. So when you have the money for your domain and hosting account. You've build relationships and a sense of trust with your audience and it'll be a lot easier to get visitors to your site to sign up via opt in or buy a product from you.

    Kind Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author vtotheyouknow
    I would offer services on the Warrior Forum.

    And in fact ...that's exactly how I went from dead broke to working full time online. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    If I had absolutely no money and wanted to engage in online entrepreneurship, then I would probably use Blogger, AdSense and Amazon Associates to try and earn money online.
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  • Profile picture of the author imacyrayy
    If you are very good at writing you could make a lot of money. I personally spend close to $300 on freelancers monthly. Become a freelancer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Hale
      Originally Posted by imacyrayy View Post

      If you are very good at writing you could make a lot of money. I personally spend close to $300 on freelancers monthly. Become a freelancer.
      But don't use freelancer.com, they are crooks.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    You should begin by studying internet marketing. When you’ll learn the basics you’ll manage to make money by using free resources like Squidoo lenses, Blogger blogs, Tumbir, Hub pages, etc.

    You can also provide your services.

    There is a fierce competition everywhere. You have to insist and believe in your victory.

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  • Profile picture of the author sketchaddict
    Originally Posted by Woodward82 View Post

    Ok, i know the NORMAL answers to this. Sell something, its a business , so if you dont have money dont venture into it... minus all of that.. my question is..

    If someone were to be saving money but wanted a jump start on getting some content , customer report , and just a jump start before they went and got the domain name and hosting, what would you suggest?
    Hey Wood! Your signature says it all - "Money is just a tool, the real reward is being able to pass on knowledge".

    There are so many warriors here to help you out in the same. You dont need to spent money to get started. There are so many free ways to earn money, you dont have to buy a domain name or hosting. Create Free blogs on blogspot, create hubs and squidoo lens. Try creating videos and promote it on youtube. (Advertise them with Google Adsense and Affiliate links).

    Or if you are good enough to sell anything on fiverr.com then its good to go for the start.

    And you will find all the information and help regarding all this stuff on this forum itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author ownergolan
    hustle so hard and start making money. thats it.
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  • Profile picture of the author todawg_not
    What is ridiculous question.

    Go find a job.

    That's why you have no money because you treat this like a hobby not a real business.

    Your not willing to invest in tools and education when your always wanting things for free

    There you go you want the truth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo


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    • Profile picture of the author Woodward82
      Originally Posted by todawg_not View Post

      What is ridiculous question.

      Go find a job.

      That's why you have no money because you treat this like a hobby not a real business.

      Your not willing to invest in tools and education when your always wanting things for free

      There you go you want the truth

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo


      Comments like this just mean that you didnt take the time to read the original post Hope you arent running your online business and treating your customers this way. Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
        Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

        I would put on my Batman suit and stand on the street corner with a cardboard sign that says "Need gas money for batmobile"

        Made $35 in an hour doing that on a dare once. True story.
        Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

        Batman has no limits.

        I'm sorry but this is a terrible idea. Nobody is going to buy it.
        Everybody knows that Batman is not a real superhero, and his
        only "power" is that he is already rich.

        You would just be seen for the fraud that you are. :rolleyes::p


        (Also, everybody knows that $35 is barely enough to get you a
        down-payment on a gallon of gas, so what do you really want
        that money for, hmmm?)
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        • Profile picture of the author ronrule
          Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

          I'm sorry but this is a terrible idea. Nobody is going to buy it.
          Everybody knows that Batman is not a real superhero, and his
          only "power" is that he is already rich.

          You would just be seen for the fraud that you are. :rolleyes::p


          (Also, everybody knows that $35 is barely enough to get you a
          down-payment on a gallon of gas, so what do you really want
          that money for, hmmm?)
          Hockey pants. Because right now, I'm not wearing them.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevL
    Originally Posted by Woodward82 View Post

    Ok, i know the NORMAL answers to this. Sell something, its a business , so if you dont have money dont venture into it... minus all of that.. my question is..

    If someone were to be saving money but wanted a jump start on getting some content , customer report , and just a jump start before they went and got the domain name and hosting, what would you suggest?
    I would spend some time listing what my skills are and how these skills can be of value to others by offering them a service, and then start planning how I can get the most reward for finding those who A) really need the value I can offer and B) who can pay me well in return for this value.

    Just bullet point all the things you can do, many web marketers have an entire arsenal of brilliant skills that can be packed up into very valuable services.

    I would focus OFFLINE on gaining these clients, I'd ignore Fiverr, I wouldn't bother advertising on the WF or any other online market place.

    Some ideas:

    Promo video creation & youtube marketing

    Website fixing - going finding websites which have common errors and offering to fix them. (one tip, search using your local area + powered by wordpress, to find local businesses who have WP websites, email them to ask them do they know that their sites are seriously at risk of being hacked if they're not upgraded as version updates are released, and use this as a foot in the door).

    Email list building and marketing. This is a GREAT one as you also sign them up to Aweber via your affiliate link which earns you a nice monthly extra...And this is obviously something that ALL businesses will benefit from.

    Web design.

    Landing page & squeeze page design (many offline businesses will not understand what any of this means so you will have to explain the benefits)

    SEO (don't call it SEO though, I'd advise that you just see what their main search term is that you feel you can get them to page one for without too much of a struggle, and suggest that you can get them to page one for that search term, explain the benefit for them in terms of the available targeted traffic.

    PPC set up and management.

    And a whole list of other things that you can probably do that you might not have realised the value of, to existing businesses.

    I would email local businesses, write letters to local businesses, offering to go in and meet with them, build a rapport with them, quote them for my services - and then go to town on over delivering. Go the extra ten miles, let alone the extra mile. Do everything I'm expected of and more, so that they're so impressed with me they naturally refer clients to me.

    And then I'd do the same with all the clients that are referred to me.

    Once I have a decent client base, I would start investing some money on my website, ensuring that I'm focusing on the kind of search terms that are likely to bring me more of the kind of clients I've already got - and I would try my very best to get a PPC campaign setup which I can prove works - so that I can pause it when I'm busy & fire it back up when I'm starting to get quiet.

    I know this seems a weird thing to suggest on an online forum, to advise focusing offline - but on fiverr your limited to charging a fiverr for your services, obviously, and on here & other forums generally speaking you're quite limited by how much you can charge based on how little many competitors are charging - where as offline, in traditional business, people are used to paying MUCH more for good services.

    Take graphic design for example. If you can design great logos - while you'd get $5 on fiver, and maybe you can charge $50 or so from finding clients on marketing forums - you go offline, find a few graphic designers, call them and ask them for a quote for a logo... I'm in the UK, and here graphic designers charge anything from a couple of hundred pounds (x 1.5 to the $) upwards for logo design. In fact a client of mine got some quotes recently, for just a logo design, his lowest quote was £180 ($270) and his highest quote was £450 ($675).

    It's the same with everything - there are people on here who sell articles at $5 per 500 words - I know for a fact that there are people who market their services mainly offline & via referral, who charge 10-20 times this amount.

    AND you will find the less and less people are bothering with old fashioned offline marketing, which means it works better than it ever did. At least this is what I find.

    And I'm talking from experience as this is exactly what I did after I'd managed to very nearly bankrupt myself previously by building a very successful online business, getting too cocky & allowing my overheads to grow out of control (staff, premises, stock, etc) and to destroy the whole thing, but it's OK we have this thing called "recession" that I can pretend was to blame, to make me feel not so stupid :rolleyes: .... so I had LESS than no money, LOTS of debt, and I managed to get one very good client, impressed the heck out of them, and they started to refer clients to me, and on it went.

    The method above still works very well and it always will, because people trust referrals, people prefer to work with people locally that they can meet face to face with (at least this is the case with most traditional businesses), and because "people buy people" - i.e. once you meet with someone, and they get along with you, the quote you give them isn't all that important - it's not all about the price.

    For instance, just so you can see this still works, for me at least; I've just designed a website for a PLC (public company, huge firm) from a referral from one of my best clients, and an email to local businesses last week has got me a meeting with an amazing potential client that to be honest I really did NOT expect to happen as I'd have thought they would have had their own in house web team!

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author katkat999
    I started working on oDesk.. that's where I started my career... from nothing to getting a stable career...
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      Originally Posted by katkat999 View Post

      I started working on oDesk.. that's where I started my career... from nothing to getting a stable career...
      I use oDesk and GAC now that scriptlance sold out.
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  • Profile picture of the author wiseme11
    Borrow if you dare to open your mouth to people around you.
    Those Rich and successful entrepreneur also borrow from Bank to
    fund their business. Many popular name you heard today, they are
    borrowing money...USING OTHER PEOPLE MONEY ( OPM) is one of the strategy.
    Provided you have the right business that can sure earn with good return. Don't get yourself into trouble. thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Get a job and save up some capital. That's actually how I started years ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author CS7
    You could set up a free blog or YouTube channel and try promoting Clickbank products... or as said above Fiverr or other Elance work.

    Goodluck
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Truthfully?

    I'd try and find a job offline, there's no real money to be made in IM if you don't have at least a few dollars to start with.

    Kim
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark72
    I would get a job, open a separate bank account for my online activities, and put at least 10% of my earnings in it.

    I would then hire a (reputable) coach with a proven track record to teach me about list building, sales funnels, driving traffic etc.

    Any remaining funds would be spent on paid traffic to get the ball rolling.
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  • Profile picture of the author FantaMan
    Build up experience in your niche and then you don't need to have money to get more clients!

    Just build more and more contacts!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    Learn a skill that people are willing to pay for.

    In the past I've:

    Twisted balloons - You can get a bag of balloons and a pump for $10. Watch Youtube videos to learn how to make animals and hats.

    Performed magic shows for birthday parties
    Bookkeeping and data entry for small businesses
    Wrote resumes
    Facepainting for squirming toddlers
    Gave guitar lessons
    Taught magic and balloon twisting classes.

    Now I run a ghostwriting business.

    Learn how to DO something then sell the service.
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    • Profile picture of the author KevL
      Originally Posted by Rose Anderson View Post

      Now I run a ghostwriting business.
      Do the ghosts write back??
      Sorry couldn't resist....
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  • Profile picture of the author Chad Kimball
    I'd do the same thing I did.. bootstrap it by hustling client work for a while. Then systematize the client work and outsource 90% of it while I build up automated niche sites, then SELL those niche sites for 2 years earnings and reinvest the money back in my business.
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    I was starting with designing logos for $10 and that's how I earned my first money online that I used to pay for my first domain and hosting for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    Picking up yourself a free blog at either wordpress or blogger. You could make one at hubpages. If you wanted to monitize it then maybe hubpages or blogger would work best. But for under 20 bucks its worth getting a domain and hosting and setting up your own site. Then I woud personally add wordpress to the root and start blogging and doing a little backlinking. Some will tell you to leverage off of a site already getting page rank but choice is your own. I personally have no problem and I seem to get more traffic with more keywords using my own domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    1. Find a good product on Clickbank that you can sell as an affiliate.

    2. Sign up as an affiliate and get your unique affiliate links to their landing page.

    3. Write articles and/or product reviews for websites like Ezinearticles, Squidoo, Hubpages, etc, that can get you some traffic with the authority of their website that is passed onto your personalized article pages.

    4. Include your affiliate link in the articles and reviews that you write.
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  • Profile picture of the author Woodward82
    I appreciate all of the replies. There is a lot of great information here. Once I get to my computer ill go more into detail.

    On the other hand, I never once said I didn't have a job. Someone above said that already. Also it was very clear in saying if someone were saving money how would they get a jump start.

    I learned a lot

    Anyone know how come the mobile app isn't letting me log in?
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    • Profile picture of the author PeterKnight
      What I would do? I would start with a detailed assessment that breaks down each every asset and liability that I have. Not just financials, but everything else. On the assets list, I'm thinking skills, knowledge, tools, habits, interests, contacts. In terms of liabilities, I'm also thinking of bad habits, relationships that are in the way of creating a better life etc, bad contracts, responsibilities.


      Next I would get as clear as possible on what I want to create on the long term. Whatever action is taken in the short term can then more powerfully and purposely be directed in the right direction.


      There's so much that can be done without spending a penny. I think it's important to think 2, 3 steps down the line. What assets are going to be important to have? What kinds of relationships would you need to start building, what kind of habits are going to be important, what knowledge would you have to acquire, what skills would you benefit from learning?


      From there it's far easier to think of things you can do right now that will give you returns in the future. For example Robert Greene talks a lot becoming an apprentice (his book about mastery) to someone who's very skilled in the area that you are interested in. Exchange your time and effort with that person in exchange for the experience, skills and potential contacts that you get in return.


      Getting lean is just as important and that means lowering unessential liabilities, i.e. you can change bad habits for free, you can address bad time management practices for free, you can almost always get rid of some more outgoing costs that are not essential.
      Lastly, as time is the most precious resource we have, it goes without saying that learning how to spend it more fruitfully is a top priority skill and anybody can get better on that, budget or not.


      Bottom line, if you don't have a clear idea of your assets/liabilities and how you need to transform those, any action you take is going to feel haphazard, and while it's great to be scrappy, hustle etc, it's also easy to perpetually go round in circles in a constant state of 'getting by' with a lot of effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alan Eight
      I would build a portfolio of Squidoo lenses across different niches/products etc.

      You will find which markets you can connect with and learn what products or services that those potential future customers of yours are interested in buying..... and make some start-up money along the way.... and probably several lenses that will be very good earners.

      Those lenses will also give you the 'real' keywords that your chosen niches search for that the 'keyword tools' just don't give you.

      Squidoo allows you to do REAL market research absolutely for FREE. It will only cost you your time;0)
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    • Profile picture of the author researchpro
      Find the most successful site from a person (not a company) and copy them except for your own subject. John Chow(that's not me) comes to mind, or frank kern. He's got lots of vids you can get ideas from.
      And when you figure it out, let me know too.
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    • Profile picture of the author higherluv
      Originally Posted by Malcolm Thomas View Post

      Get A Job!
      Originally Posted by todawg_not View Post

      What is ridiculous question.

      Go find a job.

      That's why you have no money because you treat this like a hobby not a real business.

      Your not willing to invest in tools and education when your always wanting things for free

      There you go you want the truth

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo
      Well, if you truthfully had no money then it would be crazy not to get a job.

      But the OP also said:

      If someone were to be saving money but wanted a jump start on getting some content , customer report , and just a jump start before they went and got the domain name and hosting, what would you suggest?

      Then it’s also a matter, while you work at your job, to learn the proper ropes - this is where getting a good mentor comes in. 98% of those who fail do because they don’t have one.

      By learning what to do, and avoiding what not to do, from a good mentor, then you will not have to worry about working at the job for long!
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  • Profile picture of the author butterballs8
    I started off selling my services on Craigslist. If you are good at something. Ie: designing logos, websites, therapy, cleaning, plumbing etc.

    Assemble Ikea furniture, Painting, lawn mowing, moving, throw out junk..etc

    Its free to post on Craigslist and only takes 2 minutes. Easy and free!
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  • Profile picture of the author pappunsu
    Sell your skills on:

    1. Fiverr
    2. Odesk
    3. Elance
    4. Freelancer
    5. Do Uploading on File Hosts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Newbieee
      Originally Posted by pappunsu View Post

      Sell your skills on:

      1. Fiverr
      2. Odesk
      3. Elance
      4. Freelancer
      5. Do Uploading on File Hosts.
      Hi there..

      I see lots of people saying do work on this sites etc.
      Do freelance, work for people.

      All this is good.
      Idealistic on paper. [again not saying its not possible, but it aint that easy, and sometimes it aint free]

      1. You got to have a skill that people wants/value that are willing to pay.
      I for one have no skill that i think people will want to pay, i only have business ideas, that puts me in the category of hiring ppl to outsource my work, not doing the work.
      So if i were to start of back then, with no money to spare. Freelancing wouldnt be the way.

      2. Sometimes its not free. Yes its free to get started, but sometimes u need to invest some cash to give you a headstart.
      -For example, u go to those freelance websites, get a free account, some make you pay to increase your bid amount so you can bid on more projects.
      -You start off as a new guy, new squicky clean account, no reviews, no past transaction records, basic free account. Do you think u will go far or at least have a fast start initially?
      [maybe last time, but now its very saturated and crowded in the freelance world, you got to stand out to even be considered.]

      3. So if you decide to have a profile or website to be more professional, what ppl do is they bid on projects then they put a link to their own website. So you can see their personal/company webpage to do more research on them.
      YOu aint gonna look professional with a free website.
      So with your own website, you are gonna incur domain cost, hosting cost etc.

      Still think its easy to do free?
      Well at least not the freelance way now. IMHO though
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  • Profile picture of the author Allan_Gardyne
    I have some first-hand experience.

    In 1996 I had a job (part-time) and a mortgage, and very little spare cash after paying hundreds of dollars a month in toll calls to get on the Internet, so I was trying to do everything else free.

    I attended free night classes to learn basic computer skills.

    I followed the instructions in a two-page article in a computer magazine and built a simple website using free Notepad.

    I got it hosted online using free space provided by my ISP.

    I wrote a recipe book using free software, I used free tactics to promote the site. Later, I promoted other people's products and earned affiliate commissions. Still do!

    But I wasted MANY months fiddling about and experimenting, learning from my mistakes.

    You are SO fortunate today, to have so many choices of free things you can use - Blogger, Hub pages, Squidoo, Facebook, AdSense, etc. None of them existed when I started and still didn't when I got to the stage of going full-time in Internet marketing.

    But if you try to do everything free you're likely to do what I did - waste a lot of time.

    I recommend you look for something to sell, or ways to cut your expenses, or another job, or some way to scrape together some extra dollars and buy education.

    It's very useful getting stuck in and doing stuff and learning from mistakes, but good education and good tools will save you a LOT of time, especially if you combine them with an examination of your strengths and interests, so you design your own business based on your strengths.

    Your own determination to succeed is the most important asset you need.
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyG23
    I would start with Squidoo and affiliate products. Learn SEO and how to market and go from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    Joint venture with other with same interests. That will solved your no money to start in action.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    For testing ideas, Squidoo, HubPages and Amazon.com. Find hot products (just sort by best sellers in each category) and write something interesting about those products. A dry, rehashed review will get you nowhere, so don't do that. Give people something interesting that will motivate them to share your content and you'll be on your way. Jump start this effort by going to oDesk and get a capable author to do this for you while you work your day job. Good luck to you.
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  • There is another thread about this as well - people reading this might find it compelling:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/building...couch-one.html

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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Services are always a good way to start, however you'd want to quickly get the website up and running, as you'd be developing your brand and reputation, and need a home for that.

    If that doesn't work, buy a magic button, and click it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Newbieee
      Originally Posted by MartinPlatt View Post

      Services are always a good way to start, however you'd want to quickly get the website up and running, as you'd be developing your brand and reputation, and need a home for that.
      Exactly.

      Originally Posted by MartinPlatt View Post

      If that doesn't work, buy a magic button, and click it.
      lol, i laughed. THanks for the humor
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  • Profile picture of the author Newbieee
    Originally Posted by DonnyBoy View Post

    If you want to start with zero and earn something in online world... Please offer your services on any of the following sites and get paid for your services instantly :

    1- www.elance.com
    2- Freelancer.com - Hire Freelancers & Find Freelance Jobs Online
    3- www.odesk.com

    Hope this will help you a lot in making money in Online world without spending a dime
    I doubt it would be instantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author samebed
    The best thing you can do is use fivver, elancer, textbroker, or the warrior forum services for sale section, using whatever skills you have, to build up some capital to put into your "long term" projects.

    That's how I did it, and i wasn't angry anymore for spending money I didn't have on methods or coaching.
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  • Profile picture of the author Heart Cardio
    I would offer your services online. There are many great places that you can set up gigs. Try on here or use fiverr, or you could try SEOclerks. I have used SEOclerks and it is a great place to make some decent money off of. Take this money and save it for what you need it for.
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  • Profile picture of the author winagain
    After reading some answers, I also think the best option would be to get a job so you have some money and don' starve!

    then, start whatever fancies you on internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author successproducts
    I would recommend you start a list - build a squeeze page - do whatever you can to bring traffic to it - give out quality information - swap ad to build it up - you don't even have to create products or shelve out big expenses. A domain costs 10 bucks, web hosting is free in some cases. This is how you make money on line period. I know IM is full of people who are more experts than you and know more of everything but if you remember correctly we were once those people who buys every shiny object out there. Why not IM niche? You know the story about Empower Network -- everybody is having the same freaking blog and under the same main URL yet they manage to make boat loads of money -- how? they have a video that converts - rag to riches story that sounds believable.

    I am not saying you must lie - but IM niche is ever green and all that you need to start is a list. Do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author neralu
    Well, we are getting a mixed feeling in this thread... It is still possible to make decent amount of income without any investment to start with...

    This is how my journey in IM was:
    Spent 3 years not making a single penny initially...
    Then i started with fiverr... Spent good amount of time working on orders and delivering them with correct quality and time..
    With that, i was able to get the gig to achieve 100% rating and moved to Level 2 very soon... I had days, where i had to pause my gigs to cater the kind of orders that i was getting...
    What i did was, i started investing the money which i made in fiverr in starting up other services... like seo services..PPC services etc..
    Today I have around 20+ people working in my company and I do lot of money with PPC as well...
    I would say... if you have not made any money yet.. Then suggest you to start with fiverr.. use this generated money to invest in your passionate areas of your interest...Dont get taken out by comments which will discourage you...
    Without investment, it would take time...Who cares....At the end of the day ... I made money with less risk... thats all matters!!!
    if any one need help about strategy or how it can be accomplished.. I am just a PM away
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineexperts
    I initially started off with a loan from the bank....luckily flipped it 3 times over in 8 weeks. Alternatively, without taking any risks, offer your services like others have said within the likes of Fiverr, the forum etc. If you've got a job and don't have time to fulfill your clients request...go to Odesk etc to gain some connections, be the middleman and outsource your clients work.
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  • Profile picture of the author milla04
    A lot of people have mentioned get a job, start a service which is a good option. There is a program where someone can buy you in so you can test drive it for 30 days and make money while you are testing it out. If you dont make money you have not lost anything, if you do then brill. The only drawback is, in order to get bought in you have to live in the US or Canada. I have bought a few people in to help them out.

    hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernies
    I would definitively start with Fiverr, it was the way I first made my hundred dollars and it is a great way to meet clients and start doing freelance work then investing in other ventures.
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  • Profile picture of the author betterwtveter
    Become a free affiliate to a website that will sell products that will benefit a particular niche. I would say weight loss. Participate in popular weight loss forums with your affiliate link in the signature box and make some sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello Woodward 82,

    I agree that the Warrior Forum, and that one thread in particular, are great places to start. I also agree with promoting your services- whether it's Fiverr and other related sites, article writing sites like iWriter.com and similar sites, promoting your services on your own blog via Blogger and WordPress.org.

    Additionally, you could get some free PLR, do some online research, and try to rewrite those PLR products to be more relevant and useful to today's marketplace. Provided you can make at least a little money via article writing and/or Fiverr gigs, etc., you could have a decent cover made via a Fiverr gig (or do it yourself if you have a software cover program already).

    You could then begin giving that away for free to build a list. You then could create some more of these PLR products through online research and rewriting and sell them cheaply to gain more money. You could even create some upsells to try to make two or more sales from one customer at a time.

    Over time, you can build some money where you can invest in better PLR products, as well as eventually hire your own writers to write for you. You could also advertise your PLR products and rewriting services in other locations, such as at the Warrior Forum, etc.

    This would, hopefully, get you off to a good start. You have to start somewhere, and you're not likely to get rich right away, but if you plant the seeds, they can keep growing and propelling you to bigger and better riches and rewards.

    Hope this helps!

    Take care,

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  • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
    I started out with ZERO cash! I used webs.com for my first site so I put it all together. Made all the content and put the videos on the site, had every single detail ready before I got the money to buy a domain name. This was when I knew very very little about affiliate marketing, I was just testing to see if it is actually possible to make some money online.

    From what I've been reading, it's all about Wordpress. I have yet to use Wordpress though but I will for all my future niches!
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  • Profile picture of the author jentheray
    Whatever you skills have, use them! There are a lot of people out there who are willing to pay money to people who are willing to perform simple tasks they could do themselves but would rather not do--or they don't have the time to waste. If you have any experience with photoshop, video editing, etc., the opportunities are literally endless. You don't have to have money, you have to be willing to treat IM like the legitimate business opportunity that it is. The information that we all use to make money is out there for free online, but sadly most people don't have the drive to go out and get it. All it takes it drive and research. Just get to work, nothing is stopping you but you! Take the leap of faith...you can do it!
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Services, or if you have absolutely no money, go and get a paper round to earn you some money, then spend it to invest in your business.

    Free still costs, and takes a lot longer. Better to invest and get results sooner...
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  • Profile picture of the author SasheSasha
    I'd say the best thing to do is sell whatever you are good at. If you can write articles do that, if you can make headers do that. You've got skils even if it's just being able to type.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    1) Busk for some money, or strip

    2) Go get aweber autoresponder

    3) build squeeze page on cheap hosting

    4) spend all day driving free traffic to squeeze page.

    Sounds easy but not as easy as some, and this is a activity that could make you $1000 or even $10000 in a several months, then upscale and outsource the traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author michael bury
    thanks for some really great ideas, I have been scratching around the IM business since 2009, made a small amount of cash but outgoings are greater. However we have upped our game & signed up to a mentorship.......accountability.
    In answer to the original post I would suggest their are hundreds of opportunities to make cash & if you've no cash well offer your services, we all have unique knowledge which we take for granted, people will pay for that.
    Secondly, take action, whatever it is the only way forward is to do something.....whatever that is, it's got to be positive.
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  • Profile picture of the author michael bury
    Sorry forgot to mention, am actually producing our first product which will be launched in the next few weeks, primary goal is to be a list :-)
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