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JesusDiaz 22nd February 2013 12:03 PM

Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Hello, I'm trying to configure my amazon site, its a wordpress with protozon theme, and wp zon builder plugin installed.

Any of you have this set up already?

The thing is that my theme is not displaying autoposts correctly, its messing up everything. Its just matter of using the correct settings, template set and options.

Any one using this could help me to know which template set is the right one, and which other options to choose?

Thanks a lot!

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 12:17 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Auto Posts? I wouldn't use any of the WP Zon's auto post features. Only the product details, i.e. price, read reviews, the picture and the buttons.

I'd write the review yourself, or description if you have a store. The testimonials I'd only include a select few, and not completely display them, but include half the testimonial and have them click to read it all.

Testimonials aren't too bad so if you want to display all of them, or the whole text that's fine. But atleast do your own features/description or reviews.

JesusDiaz 22nd February 2013 12:30 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Thanks for the advice man,

However, I've seen many sites with autoposts doing just fine, I'm talking about adding 1000 products or so. Don't you think that would make money? and also rank in Google?

Thanks

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 12:39 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Contact your themes support. Many times when using wp zon builder you have to add a custom post field. You will find this in - Integration >> Custom field mapping - Your install instruction should have the correct codes.

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 12:43 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodak (Post 7773874)
Thanks for the advice man,

However, I've seen many sites with autoposts doing just fine, I'm talking about adding 1000 products or so. Don't you think that would make money? and also rank in Google?

Thanks

As for your other question, it is hard to rank auto post content but I am doing tests with tumblr + twitter + pinterest + stumbleupon......... the traffic i am seeing is much more than if I was just going for google traffic. This being said I am also test another seo drip feeding method targeting only search traffic and am seeing good results.

For the search engine you will need some unique content of your own unless you are geo-targeting.

JesusDiaz 22nd February 2013 12:44 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Thanks, already contacted them but no answer yet.. and the installation instructions are completely useless... do you know which custom field to add to work with wp zon builder?

Thanks

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 12:45 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodak (Post 7773874)
Thanks for the advice man,

However, I've seen many sites with autoposts doing just fine, I'm talking about adding 1000 products or so. Don't you think that would make money? and also rank in Google?

Thanks

Some get lucky and outrank the original page. Other then that, what proof do you have that they are doing well other than their word?

Serious question, I'm willing to believe this if there is actual proof to back this up.

THe reason they don't do well is because all they do is scrape the content and post it on the blog. Google doesn't rank the same content on the first page. Usually only the original will rank, and if both are ranking the original content will do CONSIDERABLY better than the scraped content.

IF this were the case I'd be autoblogging to death. Everyone would, lol.

This is the same as those automatic flash game sites. You can feed games to your site, but if you don't bother to write your own descriptions or atleast market your site, then it just wont work at all.

Autoblogs can work, if you supply the traffic for it, but they don't do as well in the SERPS as people make out.

JesusDiaz 22nd February 2013 12:47 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Shaw (Post 7773916)
As for your other question, it is hard to rank auto post content but I am doing tests with tumblr + twitter + pinterest + stumbleupon......... the traffic i am seeing is much more than if I was just going for google traffic. This being said I am also test another seo drip feeding method targeting only search traffic and am seeing good results.

For the search engine you will need some unique content of your own unless you are geo-targeting.

That sounds great, there's a auto social post plugin that post to many social sites.. that could work. I'll try.

Still haven't decided if I will be adding content manually.. it sounds like a lot of work... I prefer to do 10 sites with autoposts than 1 with manual content.

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 12:48 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Also, this service:

Azoncart.com uses the protozon theme with WPZon. Perhaps you can query them with any help you might need, and see if they are willing to give some advice free of charge.

Here's their example site with WPZon:

Epson Expression Premium XP-600 Review - Best Photo Printers Reviews

JesusDiaz 22nd February 2013 12:49 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor (Post 7773933)
Some get lucky and outrank the original page. Other then that, what proof do you have that they are doing well other than their word?

Serious question, I'm willing to believe this if there is actual proof to back this up.

THe reason they don't do well is because all they do is scrape the content and post it on the blog. Google doesn't rank the same content on the first page. Usually only the original will rank, and if both are ranking the original content will do CONSIDERABLY better than the scraped content.

IF this were the case I'd be autoblogging to death. Everyone would, lol.

This is the same as those automatic flash game sites. You can feed games to your site, but if you don't bother to write your own descriptions or atleast market your site, then it just wont work at all.

Autoblogs can work, if you supply the traffic for it, but they don't do as well in the SERPS as people make out.

Sounds absolutlely logical, I guess, I'll have to do it manually... omg, looks like a long weekend is coming to set my first amazon site.

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 12:53 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor (Post 7773933)
Some get lucky and outrank the original page. Other then that, what proof do you have that they are doing well other than their word?

Serious question, I'm willing to believe this if there is actual proof to back this up.

THe reason they don't do well is because all they do is scrape the content and post it on the blog. Google doesn't rank the same content on the first page. Usually only the original will rank, and if both are ranking the original content will do CONSIDERABLY better than the scraped content.

IF this were the case I'd be autoblogging to death. Everyone would, lol.

This is the same as those automatic flash game sites. You can feed games to your site, but if you don't bother to write your own descriptions or atleast market your site, then it just wont work at all.

Autoblogs can work, if you supply the traffic for it, but they don't do as well in the SERPS as people make out.

You are right dude! I have only just started to test autoblogging and have seen some little tests that work. For instance my posts will auto have H2, H3, H4 title tags and sent out to social media sites for indexing. The best way is to use city targeting for auto blogs. Google will show your post on the first page if someone in that city searches for it. It is just a case of find high...ish traffic keywords for the city.

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 01:00 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodak (Post 7773950)
Sounds absolutlely logical, I guess, I'll have to do it manually... omg, looks like a long weekend is coming to set my first amazon site.

Running review sites, or niche sites for that matter is a lot of hard work, if you hate writing content. That can't be denied.

You can get the same level of success outsourcing this, but you need the startup funds to do this.

Same for clickbank niche sites. You can either do the content yourself, or outsource it. If you do it yourself you have to learn to market your site AND put in the effort to write the content. Whereas if you had an expert on the topic write your content, you could solely focus on marketing (which is the bit I find the most fun).

Everything can be made easy, if either outsourced, or you enjoy doing it. Otherwise, there is no such thing as easy money, and don't believe anyone that says there is (if talking about free traffic building methods)!

Most of the easy money making methods usually require you to spend money to make it. For example, driving traffic to a squeeze page and sending pre-written autoresponder messages is quite easy in itself. Only because you don't mind being involved in the steps it takes to setup these paid campaigns, because they don't require as much writing and instead involve playing with stats and conversions. Keyword here being MOST. And it's not that it's easier, it's just quicker because of what it involves, but doesn't mean your working less or not trying as much.

A lot of what I said here can be twisted against me! bring it! :D

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 01:01 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prodak (Post 7773941)
That sounds great, there's a auto social post plugin that post to many social sites.. that could work. I'll try.

Still haven't decided if I will be adding content manually.. it sounds like a lot of work... I prefer to do 10 sites with autoposts than 1 with manual content.

I use "snap pro" upgrade + multi license injunction with wp empire builder. I build one domain in to 10 (different niches) then auto post to social media sites. I have 5 sites set up like this (VPS) and the results so far are OK. I do make sales every day and only have to touch then once a week if that. :)

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 01:03 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Shaw (Post 7773966)
You are right dude! I have only just started to test autoblogging and have seen some little tests that work. For instance my posts will auto have H2, H3, H4 title tags and sent out to social media sites for indexing. The best way is to use city targeting for auto blogs. Google will show your post on the first page if someone in that city searches for it. It is just a case of find high...ish traffic keywords for the city.

You can target Amazon product terms at specific cities on google? I don't know much about this, too confusing :D

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 01:09 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor (Post 7774010)
You can target Amazon product terms at specific cities on google? I don't know much about this, too confusing :D

Google places for business or G+ business pages will show up for most of the services in a city or state but when it comes to products google prefers to show results of reviews/sales/blah blah closer to the person searching. "Relevance"

You can easily target any geo location with your keyword strategy and a few local links.

All I can say is this is very easy in the UK, I have not tested the US yet?

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 01:19 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Shaw (Post 7774038)
Google places for business or G+ business pages will show up for most of the services in a city or state but when it comes to products google prefers to show results of reviews/sales/blah blah closer to the person searching. "Relevance"

You can easily target any geo location with your keyword strategy and a few local links.

All I can say is this is very easy in the UK, I have not tested the US yet?

I know it does it for services, but for products? How?

If I'm doing an Amazon review, how can I geo-target that to a specific city? How does the review obtain a place of residence?

Chri5123 22nd February 2013 01:24 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Not sure about that set up - I have found a quality theme in Thesis, regular updated content that is 100% unique and WP Discount Finder does the trick for me. :)

The emphasis is on the updated content that is unique.

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 01:32 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor (Post 7774064)
I know it does it for services, but for products? How?

If I'm doing an Amazon review, how can I geo-target that to a specific city? How does the review obtain a place of residence?

Keep this one quite! ;) Add a date (3 months time) and use the (data highlighter) in WTools (add po address) also use co-citation to link your post with that local area. I do not want to say to much but give it a test.

On the other hand I know I could rank page one for a local search term like "Software updates in London" within days. The trick is to miss the services and catch the low hanging (product) fruit.

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 01:38 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri5123 (Post 7774085)
Not sure about that set up - I have found a quality theme in Thesis, regular updated content that is 100% unique and WP Discount Finder does the trick for me. :)

The emphasis is on the updated content that is unique.

I agree Chris. I buy up 60 articles a month for my "long term" sites. How are you ranking your content? I am doing a few simple steps and crushing it. It may change? But at this time is working on every post. Even my tags hit page 2!!

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 01:44 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Shaw (Post 7774146)
I agree Chris. I buy up 60 articles a month for my "long term" sites. How are you ranking your content? I am doing a few simple steps and crushing it. It may change? But at this time is working on every post. Even my tags hit page 2!!

But then you have to know where the product gets ordered most from? Or do you tag the pages with tons of PO boxes? :D

Or have I got it completely wrong?

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 01:55 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Perez O'Connor (Post 7774168)
But then you have to know where the product gets ordered most from? Or do you tag the pages with tons of PO boxes? :D

Or have I got it completely wrong?

Just 1 tag. You can not over do it or G will spank you. For instance: Original article on building tools >> tag with a city/state/date/time/location (wt) >> Co-citation (mention related services in that city/state with zero comp to yourself) + link out to a few >> Local links = City targeted product review. The tagging does not have to be for the product itself. It could be for a future competition in that area.

PS: This is not a technique I use all the time. This is only for very high comp KW's. Most of my marketing is worldwide and have no trouble ranking for traffic.

Jason Perez O'Connor 22nd February 2013 02:25 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Shaw (Post 7774213)
Just 1 tag. You can not over do it or G will spank you. For instance: Original article on building tools >> tag with a city/state/date/time/location (wt) >> Co-citation (mention related services in that city/state with zero comp to yourself) + link out to a few >> Local links = City targeted product review. The tagging does not have to be for the product itself. It could be for a future competition in that area.

PS: This is not a technique I use all the time. This is only for very high comp KW's. Most of my marketing is worldwide and have no trouble ranking for traffic.

I see! :)

Think I'll skip it then. I used to do product review sites with wordpress, and backlink. It works, but I used blog networks so I got spanked biggggg time. They still work (wordpress review sites that is, not blog networks). They were based on certain products, perhaps a little broader. I was limiting my earnings so much, going for exact match domains.

The problem is once someone has used your site to purchase a product, the chances they are going to need the same product again sometime soon is very unlikely. And if the product broke, they aren't exactly going to trust your site for a review of the same type of product again.

This meant I needed more than one site to bump up my earnings, and to go for higher searched keywords because otherwise I'd have 100's of domains, to make it worthwhile (so I needed backlinks). This wouldn't be the case if the products I were recommending were based on the niche I participated in, but in this case my sites were solely about the products and that's it (harder to market outside the Google Search Engine like this).

So any informational post would be about that product type.

So I went looking at other big sites, and saw what a proper authoritive review site looks like, and I found sites like consumersearch, reviewed.com and consumerreports.org .

The way they run their review business allows them to market very easily across many marketing channels, not just the search engines, plus it promotes return traffic. So now I don't backlink at all, I just have a team of writers properly collect facts about products, and present them in a review format professionally. The idea here being that these reviews simply tell visitors what the product does, how it does it, when it was available, whether it's worth the money, explains the features, what they do and compares them to other similar products.

Basically guiding the consumer through the selection process of a product, by giving them a buyers guide, and presenting them with information about the product and explaining the ins and outs. Once I've successfully helped the consumer choose the right product, I provide them with a list of places they can buy these, in order of lowest to highest price. Attached to each type of products are informational articles, and news segments regarding that niche.

I find this to be a more rewarding but costly route to running a product review business/site. More professional too.

However that's not to say authority review wordpress sites do not work, because they do, and I'll be providing a site creation service soon to build review sites like I use to do them, because they convert extremely well.

Since I don't build them anymore, I don't see a problem building them for others because I know they work, and in turn I add another revenue source :D

- Sorry went off topic!! Yikes :D

Danny Shaw 22nd February 2013 02:35 PM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
@Jason Perez O'Connor My new site has a broad reach and you are right that small niche sites are hit and miss. I like to keep my fingers in all pies (where possible) just in case one thing takes off. (big repeat) PM me dude because I think we could come up with something cool. (JV) IE: Authority review site mixed with "secret backlinking" and social media on auto. ..... If not good luck dude.

David Sahel 25th February 2013 06:00 AM

Re: Amazon Site: Protozon theme + WP Zon Bot
 
Nice way if you have some money, and thanks Danny for sharing this secret with us- if you cannot afford this then you need to work harder
David Sahel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Shaw (Post 7774003)
I use "snap pro" upgrade + multi license injunction with wp empire builder. I build one domain in to 10 (different niches) then auto post to social media sites. I have 5 sites set up like this (VPS) and the results so far are OK. I do make sales every day and only have to touch then once a week if that. :)

THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!



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