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Next Please

by Sam Fitz
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I've recently discovered that there are two phrases that will make me stop dead in my tracks and click the "Back" button faster than anything else. Whether I'm reviewing a blog, article, WSO or regular forum thread, the words "PLR" or "Fiverr" will make me click away almost instantly.
#plr fiverr next please
  • Profile picture of the author khooster1
    I sure it is your personnel preferences.
    There are lots of warriors making good money from PLR and Fiverr.
    There are many valuable tips/info about these every days.
    I personally benefit alot from these posts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam Fitz
      Originally Posted by khooster1 View Post

      I sure it is your personnel preferences.
      There are lots of warriors making good money from PLR and Fiverr.
      There are many valuable tips/info about these every days.
      I personally benefit alot from these posts.
      I don't doubt it. But I also know that the vast majority of "valuable tips/info" offered and "good money" being made is from selling information about PLR content and Fiverr, rather than actually using those resources.

      Then there's also the subjectivity of the phrase "good money." I mean feasibly I could utilize Fiverr combined with YouTube video marketing, or PLR combined with e-book selling on eBay, or any number of other combinations, and turn a $50 investment into $100 return in a day or two. And you know what? If someone did that for the first time, I would commend them with complete sincerity simply because they were ambitious, went after something and made it happen.

      The thing is...due to low quality of PLR content, and high maintenance of working with Fiverr offers, unless you're one of the people peddling techniques on how to use those resources, you aren't making what I personally would call "good money." I pay $1,700 a month to rent my loft in downtown Los Angeles where I live and work. The cost of living here is justified to me for the lifestyle and networking opportunities it affords me. But if I relied exclusively on implementing (not selling) techniques related to Fiverr and PLR, I'd have great difficulty even paying my rent, much less bills, and extra income for leisure and savings that substantiate why I work for myself in the first place.

      Therefore, I'm only interested in resources and techniques that are leverage-able, valuable, and scalable. When it comes to rating well in all three of these categories, I simply find these two techniques are at the bottom of everything I've ever learned in the internet marketing world. And that isn't to say I never use Fiverr, because I do. It's simply to say that I don't consider it even remotely relevant as a "main source" of income. For me it's a resource, and nothing more. It's a tool to be occasionally used to save time and money, not to make it.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        I don't doubt it. But I also know that the vast majority of "valuable tips/info" offered and "good money" being made is from selling information about PLR content and Fiverr, rather than actually using those resources.
        Every time I hear this criticism, I wonder if the people making it are just stupid.

        Look at your local college.

        Do the professors there actually DO what they are teaching?

        Have they ever done it?

        Generally not.

        And yet, when you go to college, you do learn what they are teaching. And then you can go out and get a job - or start your own business - doing it. And it works just fine.

        Many college graduates go on to make several times what their professors get paid. Not all of them, certainly, but a lot of them.

        And it's been like this for centuries.

        Why do people think this suddenly doesn't work anymore once you get on the internet?
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Some PLR is low quality, some is high quality just like some backlinks are high quality and some backlinks are low quality. There is no one size fits all. I've sold PLR niche sites for years and never sold info on PLR before. As for Fiverr, I use them a lot for certain tasks and the quality of the work done can't be beat for $5. I wouldn't use them for everything, but for outsourcing some mundane tasks, they are a time saver for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam Fitz
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I wouldn't use them for everything, but for outsourcing some mundane tasks, they are a time saver for me.
      I feel the same way. I have a few gold mine users saved on there who produce great work, and save me a great deal of time and money.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        I've recently discovered that there are two phrases that will make me stop dead in my tracks and click the "Back" button faster than anything else. Whether I'm reviewing a blog, article, WSO or regular forum thread, the words "PLR" or "Fiverr" will make me click away almost instantly.
        Because....?

        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        I feel the same way. I have a few gold mine users saved on there who produce great work, and save me a great deal of time and money.
        Now you seem to be contadicting yourself....:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    I'd like to see how fast you hit the back button for....

    GET RICH NOW - SELL PLR ON FIVERR

    Of course, I'm now really confused. How are you replying to this thread? You should have been hitting the back button to get out of here, because this thread is all about PLR and Fiverr...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Just because it's PLR doesn't make it trash - trust me on that one. If you have a bad flavor from it, you haven't met the right writers. For people like me who are writers and not really marketers, selling work as PLR is fairly easy. People already know what info they want and what form they want it in so all ya have to do to sell the ebook, guide, report, etc is to list the subject covered, stats like number of words, pages, what rights go with it, etc - and you're done and can concentrate on your next report or ebook. No elaborate sales schemes necessary - just a flat out, here's what ya get.

    As far as talking ABOUT PLR? I'm not sure what there would be to say about the stuff. It's nothing different from any other writing - the purchaser just gets rights to do what they want with it. What else is there to it?

    Maybe it's just late and I should go to bed. I'm really not "getting" your aversion to PLR.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam Fitz
      Originally Posted by Ian Jackson View Post

      Now you seem to be contadicting yourself....:confused:
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Maybe it's just late and I should go to bed. I'm really not "getting" your aversion to PLR.
      OK, to clarify. My aversion is not to PLR or Fiverr directly, as I use both. My aversion is to products that sell techniques for those resources. If I start to read a sales-y blog post or WSO that mentions either as a core part of some new fangled scheme or technique, that's when I'm hitting the back button.
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      • Profile picture of the author john01a
        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        OK, to clarify. My aversion is not to PLR or Fiverr directly, as I use both. My aversion is to products that sell techniques for those resources. If I start to read a sales-y blog post or WSO that mentions either as a core part of some new fangled scheme or technique, that's when I'm hitting the back button.
        PLR content is not a make money strategy, it's a content solution. It's an alternative to writing the content yourself or hiring a ghost writer.

        But, there is nothing that you can do with PLR content, that you can't do with content that you wrote yourself.

        As far as products on making money from PLR goes, I do think that products on becoming a PLR content provider are valid, provided that they're created by someone who is, or was, a PLR content provider.

        This is a valid info product, because you are passing on knowledge and your experience as a PLR content provider.

        But, I do get a little annoyed when people go overboard, promoting The Use of PLR as a Money Making Strategy. Again, it's not a money making strategy. Whatever you can do with PLR content, you could have done with content you wrote yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author khooster1
        You should have made it clearer. All of us are confused..

        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        OK, to clarify. My aversion is not to PLR or Fiverr directly, as I use both. My aversion is to products that sell techniques for those resources. If I start to read a sales-y blog post or WSO that mentions either as a core part of some new fangled scheme or technique, that's when I'm hitting the back button.
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        • Profile picture of the author lucidbs
          Also to those make a million dollars without work in 3 days software are the same. You can filter out crappy wso by reading the header.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam Fitz
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Just because it's PLR doesn't make it trash - trust me on that one. If you have a bad flavor from it, you haven't met the right writers. For people like me who are writers and not really marketers, selling work as PLR is fairly easy. People already know what info they want and what form they want it in so all ya have to do to sell the ebook, guide, report, etc is to list the subject covered, stats like number of words, pages, what rights go with it, etc - and you're done and can concentrate on your next report or ebook. No elaborate sales schemes necessary - just a flat out, here's what ya get.
      You're talking about PLR from an author's perspective. I actually built the beginnings of my very first lists by giving people PLR I wrote myself in exchange for their name, email and a chance to market other offers to them. I see no fault in making money using PLR.

      Now that I focus primarily on marketing rather than writing myself, I would only utilize PLR content if it was written personally by someone I know and trust, and I knew within a small margin how many people the same package would be available to. In practice, there is rarely this level of trust and disclosure with PLR, and even when there is, it must be implemented very carefully to avoid a duplicate content backlash from search engines.

      And bottom line, I simply don't think very highly of people who sell techniques on how to utilize either of these resources. At least the ones who pretend what they offer is some kind of Messiah of Marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

        You're talking about PLR from an author's perspective. I actually built the beginnings of my very first lists by giving people PLR I wrote myself in exchange for their name, email and a chance to market other offers to them. I see no fault in making money using PLR.

        Now that I focus primarily on marketing rather than writing myself, I would only utilize PLR content if it was written personally by someone I know and trust, and I knew within a small margin how many people the same package would be available to. In practice, there is rarely this level of trust and disclosure with PLR, and even when there is, it must be implemented very carefully to avoid a duplicate content backlash from search engines.

        And bottom line, I simply don't think very highly of people who sell techniques on how to utilize either of these resources. At least the ones who pretend what they offer is some kind of Messiah of Marketing.
        Okay - I get what you are saying now. I still don't know how anyone can make a product out of using PLR. The rights state what you can do and can't so that should be enough hint and instruction, I would think. As far as fivrr - I've had no interest so I'm not sure if I would ever buy a product about it if I did want to use it or not. But...........

        For me - if there's an income claim on it, I don't look any further - just click off. I hate sales hype. I don't write it, don't read it, and most certainly don't buy into it. As soon as I see an income claim, I see red flags, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    I know what you are saying.

    For me anything involving solo ads, facebook traffic, google page 1 promises, youtube money makers etc will get the back button from me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
    There are many people who manage to make a pretty decent living using strickly Fiverr.

    It can be done, and has been done.

    But you are right, that there are people out there who make more money talking about Fiverr instead of working and using Fiverr to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Perez O'Connor
    Anything that says "Easy" usually has me hitting the back button. Anything that's easy to do, usually requires a huge portfolio to make the traffic/income significant enough to make it worthwhile (Not always the case, I know, but in most cases it is).
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Fiverr seller buys a house with just one years worth of earnings from Fiverr -

    This Seller Bought a House with His Fiverr Money! - The Official Fiverr Blog | The Official Fiverr Blog
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    • Profile picture of the author Sam Fitz
      Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

      Fiverr seller buys a house with just one years worth of earnings from Fiverr -

      This Seller Bought a House with His Fiverr Money! - The Official Fiverr Blog | The Official Fiverr Blog
      How did I know someone was going to link that? lol

      1) The article never said it was one year's worth of Fiverr income; it just said "off Fiverr income."

      2) It also never said that the house was purchased outright. And if it was, that surely would have been mentioned. Therefore, he's paying his mortgage with Fiverr income. Great for him, but there is a massive difference between tossing a down payment and paying a mortgage versus buying a house outright.

      3) Have you seen the picture of the house? It's right there in that article, and that thing is no sight for sore eyes. Before moving to the city a few years ago I lived in a rural 3bd 2ba house (same specs as his) that looked a LOT better than that picture indicates, and I was only paying $600 a month mortgage on it.

      Again, I'm genuinely happy for this guy, but am I really supposed to be excited if that's the pinnacle of Fiverr achievement?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Different strokes for different folks, there are people who have made millions on PLR over the years. I get the impression you are used to seeing old 99 cent PLR packages

    My aversion is to products that sell techniques
    Ah change of heart Honestly, courses that teaches how to properly use PLR is good, since alot of people think they can just sell the PLR without repackaging it and make alot of sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Originally Posted by Sam Fitz View Post

    I've recently discovered that there are two phrases that will make me stop dead in my tracks and click the "Back" button faster than anything else. Whether I'm reviewing a blog, article, WSO or regular forum thread, the words "PLR" or "Fiverr" will make me click away almost instantly.
    Ya PLR is really popular on the forum because it's a "done for you" solution but the reality is that anyone who has been around IM for a while knows that PLR material is not great lead bait and to sell it's even more difficult
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  • Profile picture of the author thedrizzle
    I provide my service through Fiverr. There is a great niche of buyers on Fiverr who provide fantastic services, and I genuinely believe what I'm doing is of exceptional value. I also love what I do, and believe me, you don't always get what you pay for - sometimes you get much more.
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