Why IQ itself does not determine your success as an IM?

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Hello dear warriors,


1 year in Internet marketing and I understood that IQ itself doesn't determine your success as an Internet Marketer. Did you ever imagine why people with IQ 130 work for people with IQ 100? Now in order to explain this bizzare phenomenon it is really great to share with you the things that can help you to boost your success. I have learned that there are many extra parameters in life that can help you or can make the whole difference between a successful and unsuccessful person.


Except IQ, which determines only 20% of your success, there are also other really important factors that can help you in your journey and these are:


1. Self awareness
2. Self control
3. Persistence
4. Optimism
5. Self motivation


First of all you have to know and to understand in some degree what you are doing and the consequences of your actions. People who are self-awared and who control themselves tend to be more successful in life's vicissitudes.


You can be very smart but if you lack of persistence and integrity then you presumable will fail in Internet marketing and generally speaking in life.


Studies have shown that optimistic people tend to be more successful than pessimistic.


People who can motivate themselves in critical and desperate situations are really stars. This skill is very important especially for internet marketers like us in order not to give up and have continually energy and burning passion for success.


I am waiting for valuable discussions about this subject in order to make the whole interaction intriguing and helpful for newcomers!!



Thank you,
Zourkas
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Espino
    I believe that people with high IQ have been trained / raised to rely on that IQ more than other critical factors for success.

    So they go the traditional route of college / university and then a job, which is where they can be at their highest and best use.

    It is the rare individual who has both IQ AND entrepreneurial instinct - these are usually the current-day captains of industry - Larry Page / Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs (RIP) etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    IQ alone does not mean you will be successful in IM. I think having the ablity to SELL outweighs having a high IQ, when it comes to internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    This should be moved immediately. We all know IQ doesn't determine success in IM or otherwise. You have people in mensa who are living near poverty. Millionaire next door made the argument that the people with high grades didn't translate to highest success. The Off Topic Forum
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  • Profile picture of the author zourkas
    Hello Dave!

    Yes Dave, having both high IQ and entrepreneurial insticts/skills give you a huge advantage in life. I am sure that the explanation behind the thought that IQ is not the number one role in success is that there are numerous successful people who didn't attend any university but however they accomplished their main goals in life.

    Zourkas
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  • Profile picture of the author cimsols
    I wish IQ helped but here I am with a 147 and I'm still struggling.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
      Originally Posted by cimsols View Post

      I wish IQ helped but here I am with a 147 and I'm still struggling.
      I believe you, having the gift to sell will go alot further than having a high I.Q
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Espino
        Most millionaires have an average or below-average IQ, so in my opinion, high IQ can even be a potential detriment to business success.

        It's the "take massive action" and "take calculated risks" (along with a solid gameplan and vision) traits that will make success far more likely.

        I agree with Alex that sales skills help a lot, but at the same time someone who is ONLY a great salesperson can end up in prison. (Ex: Bernie Madoff)

        I don't believe that any ONE skill will do it for you. I believe it takes a handful of specific skills to achieve business success.

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        • Profile picture of the author Dennisknows
          Originally Posted by Dave Espino View Post

          Most millionaires have an average or below-average IQ, so in my opinion, high IQ can even be a potential detriment to business success.Dave
          I agree 100%. Maybe people with high IQs are generally too analytical. With IM, you have to have an extremely open mind. There are times when the outcome is non-existent but you have to keep pushing to make it happen...

          It's tough to do that when you need numbers in front of you....

          and I also feel that people with a high IQ feel gifted or important. Almost like they know everything...

          Some of them wear it on their sleeve wanting the world to know.

          I've never tested mines because I don't care to know. It's not going to help me out at this point
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    If I'm right about IQ you can have a high IQ but still have a low social IQ, and still have a low sales IQ.

    Alex Blades is right, most IM success comes from the ability to sell.

    You can do so many things in IM but selling ability and conversion rates are the most important.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    If I'm right about IQ you can have a high IQ but still have a low social IQ, and still have a low sales IQ
    I agree, having a high I.Q helps, but does not translate into sales. Take the Shamwow guy for example, he has the I.Q of a peanut, but can sell anything.

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  • Profile picture of the author ezekielseo
    My average through out high school was mediocre, i never had the grades to get me into a great university, so i didn't go to post secondary school.

    But i had the mindset, drive, and the killer selling tactics to which got me here today.

    i'm not a big business boss running a million dollar company im a young 19 year old "kid" doing better than those who said i would get no where in life if i kept slacking off in school.

    The only reason i slacked off in school was because of this internet marketing "thing".

    feels good actually, when people ask me what i do now or what am i majoring in i reply with "i'm an entrepreneur".
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  • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
    Originally Posted by zourkas View Post

    You can be very smart but if you lack of persistence and integrity then you presumable will fail in Internet marketing and generally speaking in life.
    ..."generally failing in life". You don't mince your words, do you? The truth is that some people are not successful in business but very successful in other areas of their lives and vice-versa.

    What's the use of having a high IQ if it is combined with laziness and an inability to be organised?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      IQ doesn't give you success - it shows your potential. The rest is up to you....in anything you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    IQ doesn't measure the amount of drive and determination someone has. IQ is simply a measure of intelligence -- nothing more. There are plenty of intelligent people out there working for the less intelligent. Intelligence alone will get you nowhere.

    In fact I would rather have more drive and determination than intelligence.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    This reminds me of a famous quote by Calvin Coolidge:

    "Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.
    Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent.
    Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb.
    Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts.
    Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race"
    Now you find a high IQ person WITH perseverance... Bet the farm on them.

    Bill Gates, for example, has an IQ of 160 and scored a perfect 1600 the first and only time he took the SAT, long BEFORE they changed the scoring.
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I was a C student all my life and now I make more money than all my friends who were on the honor rolls and went on to Ivy League schools.
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    • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
      Originally Posted by rmolina88 View Post

      I was a C student all my life and now I make more money than all my friends who were on the honor rolls and went on to Ivy League schools.
      I think much of this thread is viewing IQ as educational achievement.

      "Intelligence is a very general mental capability that, among other things, involves the ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly and learn from experience. It is not merely book learning, a narrow academic skill, or test-taking smarts. Rather, it reflects a broader and deeper capability for comprehending our surroundings -- "catching on," "making sense" of things, or "figuring out" what to do."
      From:
      25 Facts About IQ You Probably Don’t Accept | danielmiessler.com


      You can't realistically say that someone with low performance in those areas isn't at a huge disadvantage in business. I don't know if that's what this thread (and many others like it) are saying or if people just don't know what IQ is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
        Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

        I think much of this thread is viewing IQ as educational achievement.

        You can't realistically say that someone with low performance in those areas isn't at a huge disadvantage in business. I don't know if that's what this thread (and many others like it) are saying or if people just don't know what IQ is.
        I will say this much though I think everyone is smart in some way. I also think that the lower IQ is going to move faster initially, because they will do things without trying to figure out why, how etc.

        I think people on the thread assume a lot lolol. Like the assumption that all people with an IQ look at money as a measure of success.
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  • Profile picture of the author DrFresh
    Originally Posted by jacksarloks View Post

    I read one internet millionaire now retired say that: passionate people are better than talented ones. Talented people tend not to think outside the box.

    If you are going to sing you need talent...
    If you want to become an entrepreneur you need enthusiasm, passion, etc

    Talent and passion come hand in hand for the most part. If you're talented in an area, you're likely passionate about it by default.

    Being passionate about something with no talent or capacity to be successful in it usually results in a much harder path to success in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author khooster1
    I never knew IQ is a contributing factor to internet success.
    And I don't think so.
    But high IQ will enable you to understand IM concept faster.
    which might be a sizable factor in fast-moving IM niche.

    Not sure if I am right.. I know we all hate smart fellows.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    IQ plays a pretty big role. If it didn't then it wouldn't matter on the other end of the spectrum either. The IQ detractors don't like to talk about that one.

    It's like buying lottery tickets. The more you have, the better your chances of winning. IQ's correlation to success is the same thing. You might see the occasional village idiot find success, but that is moreso attributed to the statistical probability of one village idiot out of a group doing something right on accident. Then some people point to him as proof that IQ doesn't matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author LockhartW
    There are many, many people with high IQs who achieve nothing in their lives. IQ is a notoriously poor indicator of success in life, however you define success. It's not even a particularly reliable indicator of academic success (doing a PhD, for example, is more down to hard work and being organised).

    I always remember the famous saying, 'persistence and determination are omnipotent'.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      The "IQ" system makes about as much sense as BMI...
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    I think IQ is an old fashioned outdated stupid old g=v statistic they used back in the day to determine the value and direction of a slave laborer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Pedro Ferreira
      People with a high emotional IQ are the ones that get far. They are the ones that know how to sell (play with emotions) and the ones that are usually liked/loved by others.

      They are usually well connected with people in their niche and so can get to the top with less friction.

      Being good with people. That's what gets you far.

      Read this article:
      One in 25 business leaders may be a psychopath, study finds | Science | guardian.co.uk

      It's not hard to find psychopats at the top of many businesses. They are the masters at manipulation and persuation.

      Think about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dwayne K
    EQ, Emotional Intelligence is more
    important than IQ.

    Daniel Goleman covers this in his book
    by chance named "Emotional Intelligence".
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  • Profile picture of the author KimboJim
    For a long time I was one of those guys with a high IQ (usually around 130-135) but no motivation.

    I always tell people that IQ doesn't matter. First of all, those tests only measure certain types of intelligences. Sure, I'm great at seeing logical fallacies and understanding spatial information, but those don't determine success in all regards. There are over 200 types of intelligences. For example, your stereotypical "dumb jock" is a genius when it comes to physical and muscular intelligence.

    All of the factors you brought up are important, but I think the biggest one is motivation. You can't and won't do anything if you aren't motivated.

    Not only that, but having a high IQ tends to make you think too much about relatively simply things. It isn't a simple "do it." You have to think about why what you're doing is important, then understand all of the different challenges, then logically understand why each challenge either doesn't matter or can be surpassed, etc.

    IQ doesn't determine your success in IM or anything else. It only means that you're a good test taker.
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  • IQ doesn't mean jack, either in business and in life. The so called "social intelligence" (capacity to network and fit in) is far more important.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    Motivation, Focus, and Dedication are what are required to be successful in IM definatly NOT a high IQ!
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Making money doesn’t depend on intelligence.

    There are many stupid people making a lot of money because they have understood a few basic things, while many geniuses are in an inferior position because the world doesn’t give them any chance to succeed, and they don’t know how to make money.

    If making money depended on having a high IQ average people would simply starve.
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