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Is This Wrong?

by goindeep
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My website is showing the URL for my pages like so:

OZ Greyhound Sales - For sale: OLD GREYHOUND NEWSPAPERS/MAGAZINES

http://www.ozgreyhoundsales.com.au/ Sell/L/ROOT/NSW_Sell/C/ROOT/Miscellaneous_Sell/Ad/2013/3/9/OLD-GREYHOUND-NEWSPAPERS-MAGAZINES

To me that just looks wrong but my developer seems to think its perfectly normal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    He is using a script for sure, tell him you want your url's formatted as .html

    I seen affiliates links that look better than that
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  • Profile picture of the author intergen
    Verify as I think this is the Title Tag and NOT the url. Of course no one could put that in a browser and expect to land on your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by intergen View Post

      Verify as I think this is the Title Tag and NOT the url. Of course no one could put that in a browser and expect to land on your site.
      Sorry WF reformats. I have atatched url with a space after the domain so you can see it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
        Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

        Sorry WF reformats. I have atatched url with a space after the domain so you can see it.
        Just hover over the link, it will show the link at the bottom of the browser. He is using an auction script or something, that's why the url is showing like that. Alot of people nowadays just change the graphics on scripts, and sell them that way. I don't know if that is the case on your site, but that could be why your url is showing that way.

        You would have to pay someone to build you a site from scratch and to your specifications.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    They are definitely long and ugly looking links.

    The longer and uglier the links are the less likely people are to share them and the less likely people are to click on them if someone does share it with them.

    If there is one thing I have learnt over the years, developers and a lot of these guys that call themselves 'web guys' will tell you almost anything if it means less work for them.

    I have done a lot of work in the offline market space and it's sad when you come across these businesses who say they already have a 'web guy' and then you find out he is nothing more than a guy who barely knows how to customize a basic Wordpress template. So many of these developers and web guys talk absolute shyte and know very little. I have seen it first hand many times. They take advantage of unsuspecting business owners.

    This thread is a perfect example.

    Your links should NOT look like that. They are ugly and very search engine UNFRIENDLY. If your developer thinks they look fine and that's how they should look, my best advice is to get a new developer. Quick smart. It's clear this guy does not know what he is talking about.

    A link like that should be something more along the lines of:

    ozgreyhoundsales.com.au/nsw/old-greyhound-newspapers-magazines
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    It's not SEO or USER friendly.

    The problem is that the URL is sooooooooo long with redundancy throughout the url, ex /ROOT /ROOT /sell/sell/sell

    This part is ok: /OLD-GREYHOUND-NEWSPAPERS-MAGAZINES since it adds the keywords to your url, but the rest is bad.

    You can manipulate the url's to form proper seo format in several ways, one being the .htaccess file.

    Also, it is not good to have that long a URL for social media sharing purposes... those links probably won't fit in most url share boxes... (haven't checked the length of your urls, but for example, Twitter only accepts 140 characters)

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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    If your developer thinks they look fine and that's how they should look, my best advice is to get a new developer. Quick smart. It's clear this guy does not know what he is talking about.
    I think he said it's fine because he is using one of those "1500 scripts for $4.95" from ebay, he won't be able to code the script so it looks fine to him.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    By the way, if you are looking for a good classified ads type site script, then use this one:
    Classified Ads Software | AppThemes

    It runs on Wordpress, easy to setup, looks nice, they keep their themes updated constantly, it has tons of features, and your urls will not look like the chinese alphabet.
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Thanks all.
    Ill touch base with him again.

    He's actually a really good bloke. He gave me a great deal on the site in terms of cost price and support. I just think he doesnt want the extra work which is as you say Will very typical of web developers.

    He did code it from scratch using bootstrap from my understanding.
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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

      He's actually a really good bloke.
      He probably is. But that doesn't help you.

      Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

      He gave me a great deal on the site in terms of cost price and support.
      The problem is you almost always get what you pay for. If someone is offering you a great deal there is almost always a reason for that.

      As someone else mentioned above, he more than likely used a script for this site that he just bought elsewhere. I really don't think someone would code a site from scratch with urls like that.

      Great guy or not, those links suck. If he can't change them then you know he has just used some script to create the site for you. It happens all the time. Most websites I see local businesses pay thousands of dollars for are nothing more than a $70 customized Wordpress template.
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        Originally Posted by WillR View Post

        He probably is. But that doesn't help you.



        The problem is you almost always get what you pay for. If someone is offering you a great deal there is almost always a reason for that.

        As someone else mentioned above, he more than likely used a script for this site that he just bought elsewhere. I really don't think someone would code a site from scratch with urls like that.

        Great guy or not, those links suck. If he can't change them then you know he has just used some script to create the site for you. It happens all the time. Most websites I see local businesses pay thousands of dollars for are nothing more than a $70 customized Wordpress template.
        Totally understand, but it is actually custom coded (apart from bootstrap) and the amount of work that went into it was phenomenal. There are loads of things you obviously cannot be aware of as to the cost price and the relationship we have.

        I just want to know all the technical bits and bobs so that when I do approach him again I'm actually clued in. Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

          Totally understand, but it is actually custom coded and the amount of work that went into it was phenomenal. There are loads of things you obviously cannot be aware of as to the cost price and the relationship we have.

          I just want to know all the technical bits and bobs so that when I do approach him again I'm actually clued in. Thanks
          Yep, totally understand that.

          All I am saying is that it doesn't matter how much time or effort went into the site or how much it cost, if what you end up with is un-useable then none of that matters.

          The Classipress theme I mentioned to you above you could have up and running within a day or two for $99 I think, and it will have far superior features to the current site you have.

          It's all about spending your money and time wisely. The Classipress theme is also based around Wordpress which means it is a lot more customizable and you then have access to the huge array of other Wordpress plugins and functionality.
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          • Profile picture of the author goindeep
            Originally Posted by WillR View Post

            Yep, totally understand that.

            All I am saying is that it doesn't matter how much time or effort went into the site or how much it cost, if what you end up with is un-useable then none of that matters.

            The Classipress theme I mentioned to you above you could have up and running within a day or two for $99 I think, and it will have far superior features to the current site you have.

            It's all about spending your money and time wisely. The Classipress theme is also based around Wordpress which means it is a lot more customizable and you then have access to the huge array of other Wordpress plugins and functionality.
            I looked at that and decided against for many reasons. Along with many other WP options.

            With my current site anything is possible going into the future, I may have small issues such as this but lets be realistic, it is a small issue and with the relationship I hold with this dev and his team a six pack of beer will usually warm him up to he idea to fix it for me for free

            That WP starts at $99 but then you need all sorts of customizations done which by they way they dont support and then when you do try to make customizations it just crashes.

            I have never understood why people use wordpress outside of blogs. Thats my opinion and I dont intend on debating, maybe im wrong but thats just how I feel about word press and in fact im using it as my blog software on that very site.

            With my current site I do all sorts of stuff that I have never seen on WP. The amount of things I can do in my categories, custom fields, simple value and pricing is purely genius and I have not even begun to fully explore it.

            At the end of the day the site works great, does what I want it to do and I just have an issue with the URL and because im not that technical I didnt really know how to explain it to him. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author TanyaRebrov
    no one would want to click that except the link maker itself. such an ugly link and it is way too long. you should tell your web developer to short it out, he knows what to do. never let a simple mistake like that giving a bad reputation to you website that you worked so hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
    The first link is just the title tag in your source code. Line 9 is

    Code:
    <title>OZ Greyhound Sales - For sale: OLD GREYHOUND NEWSPAPERS/MAGAZINES</title>
    If you look at the source code of any page in this forum it displays like that too. If I link to one of the longer topics on the front page right now it displays as:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...esponders.html

    But what I pasted into the link box was:

    Code:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discussion-forum/766857-why-many-internet-marketers-moving-aweber-getresponse-autoresponders.html
    Is that a long ugly link no one would want to click on?

    You can edit yours simply by editing title tag of the source code of your site. I would dress it down a bit, take out most of the capital letters, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author nitesh
    URL is long that means it is not easy to remember. Secondly .html format files get better exposure in the search engines so try to get the .html URL.
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

    My website is showing the URL for my pages like so:

    OZ Greyhound Sales - For sale: OLD GREYHOUND NEWSPAPERS/MAGAZINES

    OZ Greyhound Sales - Welcome Sell/L/ROOT/NSW_Sell/C/ROOT/Miscellaneous_Sell/Ad/2013/3/9/OLD-GREYHOUND-NEWSPAPERS-MAGAZINES

    To me that just looks wrong but my developer seems to think its perfectly normal.
    Typical coder! My background is in software development, so I can get away with this statement.

    He's bought into whatever method he's using to create that mess. Technically it works, and that's what he's probably focusing on, rather than something that would actually be useful to the users of the site.
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  • Profile picture of the author mert
    Technically speaking, there's nothing wrong with it (that's why he said it look okay). You should show him samples so he can get what you mean. Shallow instructions leads to failure execution. On the other hand, the link path is not a SEO or user friendly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

    My website is showing the URL for my pages like so:

    OZ Greyhound Sales - For sale: OLD GREYHOUND NEWSPAPERS/MAGAZINES

    OZ Greyhound Sales - Welcome Sell/L/ROOT/NSW_Sell/C/ROOT/Miscellaneous_Sell/Ad/2013/3/9/OLD-GREYHOUND-NEWSPAPERS-MAGAZINES

    To me that just looks wrong but my developer seems to think its perfectly normal.
    I think you need to look for a new developer. The link is terrible. Except that you asked our opinion, I would never click a link like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
    Yes, the links are bad. The problem seems to be the underlying directory structure of the site, which appears to be extremely, and unnecessarily complex.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jayeshbhut
    There is a problem which displaying url that is related to developing and server data base url. In example this title OLD GREYHOUND NEWSPAPERS/MAGAZINES then display as http://www.ozgreyhoundsales.com.au/O...ERS-MAGAZINES/
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