Suspect Clickbank Merchant of Cheating Affiliates

by pvijeh
7 replies
Hello,

I suspect a clickbank merchant of cheating their affiliates out of commission. The affiliate link sends readers to a email signup page NOT a sales page, in fact there is no link from this page to the sales page.

It seems like this is meant to cheat the affiliate from their commission somehow, is there any way that I can verify this theory?

Thanks
#affiliates #cheating #clickbank #merchant #suspect
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by pvijeh View Post

    It seems like this is meant to cheat the affiliate from their commission somehow, is there any way that I can verify this theory?
    If the page to which your hoplink resolves has an opt-in on it, where your potential customers give the vendor their email address, I'd just stop promoting the product. Very few (if any) serious, professional affiliates are willing to promote a ClickBank product on that basis. :p

    Here's a long, detailed thread you can read about it, which explains why in detail (read it all, though, and carefully, because there's a little misinformation in it, too - this subject is quite widely misunderstood): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

    You can opt in yourself, under another name/email address, and see what you receive from the vendor, but (unless he sends a hoplink that overwrites yours) it won't be conclusive, anyway. You need to know what all the other people are receiving, too, and there isn't a way to know that.

    Be careful using the word "cheating", in this context: I know it sounds strange, superficially, but ClickBank does allow vendors to do this. They take the view that if a prospective customer has chosen to opt in on the vendor's page, they "belong" to the vendor (and they have to take that view, really, because they wouldn't be able to enforce anything different, would they? So don't blame them, unfortunate though it can sometimes be).

    The good news is that there are about 15,000 different products from which to choose, on ClickBank, and nobody's forcing us to promote anything with a vendor's opt-in!

    Originally Posted by pvijeh View Post

    The affiliate link sends readers to a email signup page
    "Keep away"!! (is my advice). I wouldn't touch it, and pro-affiliates I know wouldn't touch it, either.

    (You can ask the vendor if he has another "straight sales page" without the "squeeze-page"/"opt-in". He might have one. Then again, he might not).

    Possibly this post might interest/help you, also: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932
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    • Profile picture of the author livo
      Hmmm

      I have been an affiliate of a very well known merchant on clickbank for nearly four years.

      The owner of the scheme updated his site nearly a year ago and its since then i noticed something was not quite right.

      I always got lots of subscribers to my list through my squeeze page which was linked to the affiliate part of the program.

      I was using cloaker software that generated different aspects of the site eg videos,different pages etc and it always worked out that i got paid through my link when anyone purchased.

      Now the thing is,since the update of the site all the links now go directly to his sign up page? I have signed up again using a friends email address and then gone onto the buy page only to find affiliate none

      Is this allowed in Clickbanks terms and conditions for vendors to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author pvijeh
    thanks for the thoughtful reply - very helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Ya you should probably stop promoting that product. Anybody who sends affiliate traffic to their squeeze page has to be using an affiliate cookie software like infusionsoft where you can cookie subs to the affiliate who sent them so if they ever buy the affiliate gets credit.

    On Clickbank they don't offer this feature (as far as I know). I could be wrong but how you're describing the sales process sounds pretty shady to me
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  • Profile picture of the author pvijeh
    I just noticed that on the sales page where it shows which affiliate gets credit, there is something strange happening. Instead of just showing my affiliate nickname, it has my affiliate nickname + a period + another nickname. like this:

    [Affiliate = "mynickname"."another nickname" ]

    Anyone know what this means?
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Yeah, you're not going to get anything. That is dodgy. Stop right away.
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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      Originally Posted by pvijeh View Post

      [Affiliate = "mynickname"."another nickname" ]

      Anyone know what this means?
      It's not 'another nickname' - it's a tracking id
      You WILL get commission.



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