Any personal development bloggers out there? Just made a huge realization

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Hey guys,

I've always tried to be the most genuine, sincere blogger who cares for his readers. And I do. I engage my readers all the time and I got tons of emails from them.

But I made the mistake of assuming that they'd be smart enough to buy products that they NEED, things that will help them over the long term.

That is logical on every level of course, but I've come to realize when it comes to personal development, people don't wanna buy what they need, or even things they know will help them.

They're mostly freebie seekers. They respond more to instant solutions that will solve their problems overnight.

Yet, I think it's still important to add value and establish yourself as an authority to build trust. Then people will listen.

I feel kind of stupid for not realizing this sooner.

What do you all think?
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Hey Alden,

    Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I just think it's because you've not niched down enough.

    Revive your life and follow your passion are both very ambiguous. It's essentially one tiny step below a general PD blog.

    I think you would find much more success if you niched down even further. You might exclude some of your audience, but I think the ones who are passionate about your topic would be more likely to buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author aldentan
    Hey man, yeah that's one thing too. Trying to do it too.

    I find personal development to be so tricky.
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    But is this down to your headlines, sales copy, and promotional skills?

    I don't know your niche at all, but there are freebie seekers everywhere.

    What you said, about instant solutions - that's human nature and not in the least limited to your niche. If instead of pitching it as something they need, pitch it as "an almost instant solution to your problems..." If it's the same as my experiences, people react much better to being given exactly what they want or need, but expressed in the way that best matches how they want it...

    [EDIT] Just looked at your site - it doesn't engage you enough.

    What you're saying is too 'soft'. Better to call out the problems, then your opt-in has benefits that overcome these problems.

    The site looks pretty cool - but the post headlines don't appear until you mouse over them, which if you're a lazy surfer might mean that they never get to be shown. I think I'd consider an alternative that shows the headline permanently...

    Also your posts come up with solutions but don't really lead on to a product - hint, they should
    You have an optin at the bottom of the post, but no strong call to action.

    I think you can tweak this and make it rock...
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    • Profile picture of the author aldentan
      Originally Posted by MartinPlatt View Post

      But is this down to your headlines, sales copy, and promotional skills?

      I don't know your niche at all, but there are freebie seekers everywhere.

      What you said, about instant solutions - that's human nature and not in the least limited to your niche. If instead of pitching it as something they need, pitch it as "an almost instant solution to your problems..." If it's the same as my experiences, people react much better to being given exactly what they want or need, but expressed in the way that best matches how they want it...

      Let me know how you go!
      For sure! It boils down to everything again. Gotta have it all, not just limited to content and copy alone.

      Chicken and egg eh?
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      • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
        Hey Alden,

        Not Chicken and Egg, no. Well, sort of, I s'pose! You want to get your site out there, but you should expect less than ideal results. Many people think that just because you have a site out there that people will come flocking. You need to improve those parts I mentioned and you'll get an improvement in your results.

        Congratulations on making the effort to start, now you need to improve the site, and as you do, you'll see improved results. This is the same for everyone, we all find better ways of doing things, just that the improvements are greater in the beginning...
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    The thing with PD is that there are very specific, little known triggers that people REALLY have in mind when they are searching for solutions to problems. They will definitely spend money, but the message to market match must be spot on. It has taken us a couple of years to really refine this down in a couple of areas...once you hit the right problem, the right desired outcome and nail your sales material along these lines, people will buy.

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  • Profile picture of the author aldentan
    Thanks guys!

    Duly noted.

    I really made the mistake of just writing to make "people feel good", and I thought with all that good feelings it was enough to make a sale.

    specific pain points it is!

    Thanks Martin. Gonna make those tweaks!
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    People buy what they want first and what they need (outside of food and shelter) second. As mentioned, your approach is too broad. I've looked at your site. I have a massive monitor and still, 2/3 of the screen is that picture of you. Then there's that wide nav bar up top. You need to minimize all that stuff a lot. I realize you're trying to brand yourself but that pic is way too much.

    If people buy what they want first, and they do, then you have to figure out what they want. No one wants better self esteem, not consciously at least. They want the feelings that come from improved self esteem. What are those? Pride. Confidence. Money. They want to be attractive to the opposite (or same) sex. They want these things because they'll feel better having them.

    That's how you sell personal development. Benefits. Benefits are almost always feelings, emotions. Tailor your presentations to give them the benefits of personal development. If you do that you don't ever have to mention self help, personal development or any other such synonym. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author aldentan
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      People buy what they want first and what they need (outside of food and shelter) second. As mentioned, your approach is too broad. I've looked at your site. I have a massive monitor and still, 2/3 of the screen is that picture of you. Then there's that wide nav bar up top. You need to minimize all that stuff a lot. I realize you're trying to brand yourself but that pic is way too much.

      If people buy what they want first, and they do, then you have to figure out what they want. No one wants better self esteem, not consciously at least. They want the feelings that come from improved self esteem. What are those? Pride. Confidence. Money. They want to be attractive to the opposite (or same) sex. They want these things because they'll feel better having them.

      That's how you sell personal development. Benefits. Benefits are almost always feelings, emotions. Tailor your presentations to give them the benefits of personal development. If you do that you don't ever have to mention self help, personal development or any other such synonym. Good luck.
      Thanks dude!

      hahaha yeah too much huh? But ehh, I like the picture . Noted though! I like how you explained benefits.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Originally Posted by aldentan View Post

    I feel kind of stupid for not realizing this sooner.

    What do you all think?
    I think that is the profile of most buyers in all the hot niches: make money online, lose weight, self improvement, fitness, lotteries.

    You would think, logically, that people would want sane, well balanced solutions they could implement that would make a real measurable, if not dramatic difference in their lives, income or health.

    But the reality is, anyone who actually has that mentality is probably already in okay, if not better, shape.

    If those criteria entered, at all, in the reality of the buying decision then those prospects would have dropped out long ago having found a sane solution.

    Therefore the active market must be made, primarily, of people who do not fit that sane criteria.

    Hence they are desperate, looking for a quick fix, easy to sway with hyped up promises, and quick to buy over and over seeking the next "magic solution".

    Market to those people. They aren't going anywhere.

    EDIT: I don't mean to use "hypey" sales copy or cheapen your pitch, I just mean hit the 'desperation' hot points of the majority of the buyers in your market when you are thinking of your marketing angle.
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    • Profile picture of the author aldentan
      Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

      I think that is the profile of most buyers in all the hot niches: make money online, lose weight, self improvement, fitness, lotteries.

      You would think, logically, that people would want sane, well balanced solutions they could implement that would make a real measurable, if not dramatic difference in their lives, income or health.

      But the reality is, anyone who actually has that mentality is probably already in okay, if not better, shape.

      If those criteria entered, at all, in the reality of the buying decision then those prospects would have dropped out long ago having found a sane solution.

      Therefore the active market must be made, primarily, of people who do not fit that sane criteria.

      Hence they are desperate, looking for a quick fix, easy to sway with hyped up promises, and quick to buy over and over seeking the next "magic solution".

      Market to those people. They aren't going anywhere.

      EDIT: I don't mean to use "hypey" sales copy or cheapen your pitch, I just mean hit the 'desperation' hot points of the majority of the buyers in your market when you are thinking of your marketing angle.
      thanks so much for this! It makes so much sense.

      I consider myself what you described there, to be able to make sane choices and primarily know what I already need to do with my life.

      And yeah... I don't buy much into info products.
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  • Profile picture of the author USGTMauthor
    I am in the pd niche I focus on time management and goal achievement. I have sold and given away my own ebooks but never promoted others products. I looked at your site. The layout is nice. My suggestions. Define more your audience is it twenty somethings. I am not sure you use language like sup and profanity which implies that. Not necessarily bad but may turn some off. People buy stuff for two main reasons avoid pain or pursue pleasure. I learned this from Tony Robbins. Clearly define what your product is going to do for them. Also the first page of your site needs some text and info or else people will just click on something else. Tighten the message benefits and call to action. Pm me if you want more thoughts
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    • Profile picture of the author aldentan
      Originally Posted by USGTMauthor View Post

      I am in the pd niche I focus on time management and goal achievement. I have sold and given away my own ebooks but never promoted others products. I looked at your site. The layout is nice. My suggestions. Define more your audience is it twenty somethings. I am not sure you use language like sup and profanity which implies that. Not necessarily bad but may turn some off. People buy stuff for two main reasons avoid pain or pursue pleasure. I learned this from Tony Robbins. Clearly define what your product is going to do for them. Also the first page of your site needs some text and info or else people will just click on something else. Tighten the message benefits and call to action. Pm me if you want more thoughts
      Pm-ed you!
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Nice looking site, but your optin incentive is confusing and I think trying to do too much with confidence boosting, finding passion and hinting at making money.

    I'm not in your niche, but I would think boosting confidence is a great desperation niche. It could be phrased in many ways such as self-esteem, fear of [choose a fear], etc.

    I think the finding your passion thing is overdone. I wouldn't sign up to anything promising to help me find my passion, but I would sign up for clear confidence-boosting freebies. That's just me.

    I also think the "confidence" market opens itself to promoting tons of stuff ... public speaking, anxiety, blushing, weight loss, fitness, etc.

    In 2012 I broke into a broad consumer-based niche and while I too have struggled monetizing my list (like you I avoid sledge-hammering offers and produce an informative e-newsletter), but I have found that complementary promotions work such as credit card offers (sell it in a way that resonates with your audience), dating sites (promote a dating site that targets your niche), etc.

    Great looking site nevertheless.
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    • Profile picture of the author aldentan
      Originally Posted by jgant View Post

      Nice looking site, but your optin incentive is confusing and I think trying to do too much with confidence boosting, finding passion and hinting at making money.

      I'm not in your niche, but I would think boosting confidence is a great desperation niche. It could be phrased in many ways such as self-esteem, fear of [choose a fear], etc.

      I think the finding your passion thing is overdone. I wouldn't sign up to anything promising to help me find my passion, but I would sign up for clear confidence-boosting freebies. That's just me.

      I also think the "confidence" market opens itself to promoting tons of stuff ... public speaking, anxiety, blushing, weight loss, fitness, etc.

      In 2012 I broke into a broad consumer-based niche and while I too have struggled monetizing my list (like you I avoid sledge-hammering offers and produce an informative e-newsletter), but I have found that complementary promotions work such as credit card offers (sell it in a way that resonates with your audience), dating sites (promote a dating site that targets your niche), etc.

      Great looking site nevertheless.
      Thanks!

      Hmm I don't think the passion thing is overdone. Reason being I think it can potentially expand into many different areas.

      That being said, yeah I need to change the opt-in form.

      I don't focus primarily on passion. I'm about it, but cover so many things about PD when passion is expanded.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coach Comeback
    Great thread Alden. Really glad you started this discussion. Lots of great feedback from other members.

    With that being said, I have to agree. "Follow your passion" is soooo overdone and doesn't resonate with anyone .

    I just did a search in google for that and there were over 317 million results. lol

    Searched boosting confidence to approach women (just a small segment of your confidence theme) and that numbers drops down to 2 million and you have hit a specific audience with a specific need.

    I mean, you ask ANY normal person would they like to do something they are passionate about and of course EVERYONE would say yes.

    When you speak to everyone.... you speak to no one.

    I don't think you need to worry about getting to narrow a topic. You can always branch out later.

    What if you just targeted 20-somethings in college dealing with issue that are specific to the early years of college. Even if you wrote about JUST that for a few months, you would have a tight, PASSIONATE audience because your message would be directly for them.

    Then you could branch out to talking about confidence in transitioning from college to the corporate world for a few months. Then balancing career and relationships... and so on.

    Niche down first.

    Branch out second.

    I think you are doing it the other way around.
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    • Profile picture of the author BillyPilgrim
      Start with your blog. I see your first page and there's nothing but an opt in...I'm going to be sold to. What's in it for me?
      Second, you're thinking logic and PD is emotion. What's in it for me?
      You want to sell them things YOU think they need, people buy things THEY Want, not need. You like paying the electricity bill or buying that pizza?

      Buddy
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  • Profile picture of the author Coach Comeback
    Blog looks good now! I like how you have changed it!
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