QUESTION: Photoshop vs Gimp vs ???

15 years ago

I haven't used GIMP in awhile but resizing/changing the contrast and/or brightness shouldn't be a problem.

From what I remember GIMP is very similar to Photoshop for simple image editing tasks... where it falls short is with more complex styling/blending options/filters.

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David_Thompson

15 years ago

Kevin, I know there is a Gimp video series selling
but I don't know who is the creator of the package
which will be able to help your customers...

--David

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Tyrus Antas

15 years ago

Gimp can do most things photoshop does. The problem isn't so much what Gimp can or can't do, but the ecosystem Gimp can't offer but Photoshop does:

- Tutorials, training manuals, video training
- Hundreds of thousands(millions?) of professionals capable of using it
- Plugins, extensions and other related software
- Ease of use

That said, if that's all they need to do, Gimp is perfectly fine. But if they need more in the future, I'd refer them to Photoshop Elements if they're looking for cheap alternatives.

Tyrus

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Kevin Riley

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas

Gimp can do most things photoshop does. The problem isn't so much what Gimp can or can't do, but the ecosystem Gimp can't offer but Photoshop does:

- Tutorials, training manuals, video training
- Hundreds of thousands(millions?) of professionals capable of using it
- Plugins, extensions and other related software
- Ease of use

That said, if that's all they need to do, Gimp is perfectly fine. But if they need more in the future, I'd refer them to Photoshop Elements if they're looking for cheap alternatives.

Tyrus

Yes. I actually recommend Photoshop Elements in my guide. I love Photoshop. It allows me to create such good layouts for my products.

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BizWebMan 15 years ago

Oh well, I can only presume my recommendation was way to simple for the photoshop stalwarts.
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Asher

15 years ago

Hi Kevin,

I think Josh Gould answered it to the point...
It can be the simplest of effects but it lacks
the power and the complexity that Photoshop
offers.

Asher

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BizWebMan 15 years ago

Hi Kevin

I think we all want to be able to do great things with images as quickly and effectively as possible. Photoshop, gimp and all similar programs have a fairly hefty learning curve which can put people off progressing with their projects etc.

I was lucky to have found a fantastic free program last year which does nearly all that your clients ask and is a complete breeze to use.

Its called Picnik - edit photos the easy way, online in your browser, it will save loads of time.

Regards
Grahame
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Dana_W

15 years ago

Wait a minute, Kevin - you use photoshop? So those pictures of giant lifesize hamsters bowing down to Kevin Riley the Hamster King...aren't REAL?

I feel so foolish now.

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Kevin Riley

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dana_W

Wait a minute, Kevin - you use photoshop? So those pictures of giant lifesize hamsters bowing down to Kevin Riley the Hamster King...aren't REAL?

I feel so foolish now.

Those are real. All Hamsterdom bows to me.

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jasonl70

15 years ago

almost anything you can do with photoshop, you can do with gimp.

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Takuya Hikichi

15 years ago

Kevin,

I use http://www.getpaint.net/ because it loads a lot quicker than GIMP. Here is the tutorial for Paint.net Paint.NET Help - Overview

Another alternative to GIMP?

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braver55b

15 years ago

I tried using and earlier version of Gimp years ago, but it seemed complicated to use, and hey I'm no newbie.

Kevin Tell your customers if cost is an issues, to paint a house, wash some dishes, do a little work in the restrooms, spend some time over a hot grill anything to earn the cash to get Photoshop...its one of a kind. :-)

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Jeff Henshaw

15 years ago

Oh well, I can only presume my recommendation was way to simple for the photoshop stalwarts.

For what is being discussed here, the answer would probably be - yes.

No offence meant or intended.

Best Regards,
Jeff.

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Jeff Henshaw

15 years ago

If you are looking for specific tutorials on Gimp that you believe will enable folks to grasp a clear understanding of how simple pixel manipulation can be, feel free to PM me and let's open up a dialog. Your input on this subject would be better than most, so I will be the clear winner here. As well as your students

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There is almost certainly a market for GOOD Gimp tutorials. There are hundreds of PhotoShop tutorials in both written (text) and audio/video format. Not many relating to Gimp though, in my experience.

OK, one might say, but bear in mind that Gimp is free Photoshop is not, so if it can be proved that one is little better than the other (taking the price factor into account) then the man or woman who can grasp the nettle and promote Gimp (with proper training material) to the new generation of budding designers should have a good living for a few years to come.

Sadly due to my poor design skills, it won't be me!

Just my thoughts.

Jeff Henshaw.

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Kevin Riley

15 years ago

Originally Posted by braver55b

Kevin Tell your customers if cost is an issues, to paint a house, wash some dishes, do a little work in the restrooms, spend some time over a hot grill anything to earn the cash to get Photoshop...its one of a kind. :-)

Yup! I just sent out an e-mail saying basically the same thing about Camtasia. I'm amazed at the number of people who don't at least pick up the 30-day free trial. I've upgraded 3 times (probably spent a total of $600-700 at Techsmith) and I can't even tell how many times over it has paid for itself.

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grover69

15 years ago

Online image / photo editor pixlr free

This is one of the closest Photoshop web apps I've seen. It may have the features you are looking for. Free and you will be amazed that it runs in your browser.

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jacktackett

15 years ago

Kevin,
the gimp can handle these tasks to my understanding (I'm not a graphics kinda guy)
Also as a starting point for tutorials on the Gimp, and a few other website tools (NVU etc) check out:

GIMP Video Tutorials

best,
--Jack

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TheAngelGuy

15 years ago

Yes, it can do all three. And having both, I can tell you that the color picker and color tools are actually better than Photoshop's because they're more robust and usable. Not implying that PS's is limited, because that's what I use most of the time. But there are some things that GIMP actually does better and easier.

Not ragging on Josh because he gave you a good palce to start, but the blend modes aren't as bad as one might think, though he's right as far as the styles. The funny thing about the styles in PS is that Adobe kind of sells it as major feature and it's more like a shortcut - you can still do all those things in previous versions manually.

And just do a search for "GIMP tutorials" and you'll find a whole slew of stuff.

Take care, all,

- Paul

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Adaptive

15 years ago

Tryus is 100% spot on target:

- Tutorials, training manuals, video training
- Hundreds of thousands(millions?) of professionals capable of using it
- Plugins, extensions and other related software
- Ease of use

Gimp comes close to matching Photoshop as a piece of software. And in a few ways, Gimp has better tools.

But Photoshop is more than just a piece of software. It's your door into a whole world.

This world is full of learning and step by step techniques showing very advanced results.

It's full of experts you can hire, of information products that transfer that expertise into your own mind, of plug-ins and utilities that transfer that expertise into your computer.

It's a world where your skills can lead to a good paying job, a comfortable freelance life, or a valuable contribution to a marketing joint venture, as you choose.

Photoshop is not an image editor, it's an entire world of sharing, services, infrastructure, teamwork and professional interaction.

If all you need to do is touch up a few pictures, there are better options for $700. If you want to get into that whole world, $700 for the key is a bargain.

Now Kevin's clients need a low cost way to touch up a few pictures. Gimp, Paint.Net or Photoshop Elements might be a good free or low cost alternative. If the clients can afford Elements, that would be my preference because that's a foot in the door to the world of Photoshop... where they can find lots of experts to help them.

Is the best service to the clients to keep them out of that world?

Regards,
Allen

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yosis

15 years ago

Gimp is quite capable but the major issue most professionals willing to use the software has been the interface. I personally can barely stand it. But as a testament to how capable it is many gimp users recreate photoshop tutorials ammending them for the gimp program. And the results are nearly identical (usually).

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