Are your niche sites just about 1 offer?

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Hello to all. I am new here and trying to get my legs. Thanks for an awesome resource.

My question: Are your niche sites just about 1 offer? Guess I will prepare myself for the facetious, "well that's what makes it a niche". But please hear me out.

traffic > optin > email marketing Email marketers: Do you send folks to your website or directly to the sales page?

I am working on a website and just came across a thread where it was mentioned not to spend too much time building the elaborate site. Okay, I'm paraphrasing. . Others chimed in that they started the site with 3 to 4 articles and focused on getting the email opt-ins and then started selling. My site is starting to take some shape but I don't want to overdo this either and delay trying to get traffic and building a list.

Where I am stuck is this. My website is shaping up to have many different offers under an umbrella theme. Am I giving people too many things to choose from? I plan to sweeten the opt -in with a freebie and then market to the subscribers via email but I'm not sure if I send them to my review pages first or directly to the vendor's sales page. Or, do I put the presell directly in the email along with my affiliate link to the sales page?

Right now my plan includes having multiple recommendations on my site under the umbrella theme as well as a plan to market these and other offers via email. Am I on the right track or am I mixing business models?

I am green and new here but I do lurk a bit to learn and look for answers. Any guidance is greatly appreciated. Sorry if this is a dumb question with an obvious answer. Maybe you all can just set me straight on how not to over complicate things. . .?
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    You are on the right track. A good convrrsation is focused but should have different subtopics. Do not limit yourself to just one offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Hi Ada,

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    I am new here and trying to get my legs.
    Good luck with that - who has them at the moment?

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    Are your niche sites just about 1 offer?
    None of mine is about just 1 offer.

    I'm an affiliate marketer, myself, and most of the long-term money in that comes from making repeated sales to the same subscribers, who increasingly trust the marketer after each purchase. So, although I'm involved in multiple niches (on different sites, of course), I wouldn't be putting up a website, building a list, creating content and so on for just one product.

    (Six months ago, I did still have a 1-product site, out of my 8 niches, but I was really pleased to find another product for it. Most of my sites/lists promote about 3-4 different ClickBank-type products, and a little Amazon stuff as well, in some cases).

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    traffic > optin > email marketing Email marketers: Do you send folks to your website or directly to the sales page?
    I don't quite understand the question. Are you asking whether people send their traffic directly to the sales page rather than opting them in, or after opting them in? (The people who use direct-linking rather than list-building aren't usually here to answer: they "dropped out" of the business). I send plenty of links to my own site to subscribers. I occasionally put something like a masked hoplink directly in an email, too - it depends what the email says.

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    I am working on a website and just came across a thread where it was mentioned not to spend too much time building the elaborate site.
    I'd agree with that, as a generalization. I never spend a lot of time building an elaborate website (I used to do that, occasionally, years ago - by trying harder and/or outsourcing the hard stuff, and it got me nowhere at all, by comparison).

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    Others chimed in that they started the site with 3 to 4 articles and focused on getting the email opt-ins and then started selling.
    I'm in that group.

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    Where I am stuck is this. My website is shaping up to have many different offers under an umbrella theme.
    One person's "large niche" is another person's "umbrella theme". It will help if you can describe it in just a little more detail?

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    Am I giving people too many things to choose from?
    I think that depends on how many things you're giving people to choose from.

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    I plan to sweeten the opt -in with a freebie and then market to the subscribers via email
    Good plan. This is a way to build a highly targeted list (the best kind - tends to be more responsive).

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    I'm not sure if I send them to my review pages first or directly to the vendor's sales page.
    It doesn't matter much. These are the things that matter: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    Right now my plan includes having multiple recommendations on my site under the umbrella theme as well as a plan to market these and other offers via email. Am I on the right track or am I mixing business models?
    I think it depends what you mean by "umbrella theme".

    As long as it's all one niche, it's good to have a few different products (especially at different price-points). Just make sure your site doesn't come across as "selling". "Pre-selling" is what you want.

    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    Sorry if this is a dumb question with an obvious answer.
    I don't think it's that at all. I just think it will be a little easier to answer helpfully and constructively if you can explain a little more what you mean by "umbrella theme". Are you talking about one niche, or multiple niches? (I appreciate you may not want to give away your niche, but maybe an analogy comes to mind?).
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  • Profile picture of the author yjtung
    The backend is where the money's at. If someone already bought something from you, they are waaaaaay more likely to buy from you again.
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  • Profile picture of the author MartinPlatt
    Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

    Hello to all. I am new here and trying to get my legs. Thanks for an awesome resource.

    My question: Are your niche sites just about 1 offer? Guess I will prepare myself for the facetious, "well that's what makes it a niche". But please hear me out.

    traffic > optin > email marketing Email marketers: Do you send folks to your website or directly to the sales page?

    I am working on a website and just came across a thread where it was mentioned not to spend too much time building the elaborate site. Okay, I'm paraphrasing. . Others chimed in that they started the site with 3 to 4 articles and focused on getting the email opt-ins and then started selling. My site is starting to take some shape but I don't want to overdo this either and delay trying to get traffic and building a list.

    Where I am stuck is this. My website is shaping up to have many different offers under an umbrella theme. Am I giving people too many things to choose from? I plan to sweeten the opt -in with a freebie and then market to the subscribers via email but I'm not sure if I send them to my review pages first or directly to the vendor's sales page. Or, do I put the presell directly in the email along with my affiliate link to the sales page?

    Right now my plan includes having multiple recommendations on my site under the umbrella theme as well as a plan to market these and other offers via email. Am I on the right track or am I mixing business models?

    I am green and new here but I do lurk a bit to learn and look for answers. Any guidance is greatly appreciated. Sorry if this is a dumb question with an obvious answer. Maybe you all can just set me straight on how not to over complicate things. . .?
    You sound like you're generally on the right track.

    Send taffic to website or sales page. I assume you just mean from your auto responder e-mails? In which case if you're trying to get someone to sell, the sales page, if you're showing them something of value on your site, the relevant post. Make sure that post has a call to action.

    A lot of your questions will be answered by your own experiences and testing, what works for one, doesn't always work for another, as we all have differing 'styles'...
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    • Profile picture of the author AdaGirl
      Thanks everyone for your responses. I was getting a bit sidetracked as it seems some people do a squeeze page and maybe even a website for 1 offer.

      So, say my site was about children's dress shoes. I might offer socks, shoe repair services, ebook on how to measure your child's foot, dressy kids clothes etc. but the site domain would be something about children's dress shoes and the initial keywords to bring people to the site would be about that.

      I might offer you the ebook about measuring your child's foot and understanding growth patterns and so forth as a freebie to get you to opt in. Then once I had your email address, my email sequence would perhaps mention some additional places where you might get shoes for your kids but subsequent offers would be related as mentioned above.

      So given the feedback thus far, I would within my email, link back to my website with a compelling review or other such pre-selling techniques (still have studying to do here) and then shuttle them on to a sales page via my link? Or in some cases, I might send them directly to the offer from the email, correct? Sounds like you all are saying that the bottom line would be to test for a given offer to see what yielded the best results.

      My only remaining concern will be taking that leap when there is reasonably enough content to make this thing live. How much is enough? Should I hit the street with only 1 offer and the associated articles and review, and keep adding to it from there? Not sure what that balance is and I guess I'm a bit gun shy. That 3, 4 page thing frightens me!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

        So, say my site was about children’s dress shoes. I might offer socks, shoe repair services, ebook on how to measure your child’s foot, dressy kids clothes etc. but the site domain would be something about children’s dress shoes and the initial keywords to bring people to the site would be about that.

        I might offer you the ebook about measuring your child’s foot and understanding growth patterns and so forth as a freebie to get you to opt in. Then once I had your email address, my email sequence would perhaps mention some additional places where you might get shoes for your kids but subsequent offers would be related as mentioned above.
        Cool ... thanks for the more detailed explanation/analogy.

        Sounds great to me. One niche (that really is a "niche", not like so many people use the word!) and a few closely related bits and pieces? Ideal. You wouldn't need all the "bits and pieces" to get started, but could add them whenever convenient.

        Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

        So given the feedback thus far, I would within my email, link back to my website with a compelling review or other such pre-selling techniques (still have studying to do here) and then shuttle them on to a sales page via my link? Or in some cases, I might send them directly to the offer from the email, correct? Sounds like you all are saying that the bottom line would be to test for a given offer to see what yielded the best results.
        "Yes" to all of that.

        I'd suggest you don't make your reviews too "compelling": never let them slip from pre-selling into selling. It can be one of those "the more you try to sell, the less you sell" things. An air of objectivity and quiet, understated authority is ideal. I want my subscribers to buy a product because I'm the person who's giving it a metaphorical 8/10, not because someone's trying to give it 10/10. Ultimately, the factor in the equation that makes them buy needs to be me and my credibility, not their expectation of a "perfect" product - that can lead to disappointments and even refunds and most importantly of all it can lead to fewer sales of the next product, and that's probably the one I really need to sell, to pay my mortgage.

        Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

        My only remaining concern will be taking that leap when there is reasonably enough content to make this thing live. How much is enough? Should I hit the street with only 1 offer and the associated articles and review, and keep adding to it from there?
        That's what I do.

        You can argue this either way, I think. The sooner you hit the street, the sooner you start earning something from it. In theory, it's possible to have a sudden flood of highly targeted traffic which you'd have preferred to have a couple of weeks later, but this is rare and unpredictable and not a disaster anyway?

        Originally Posted by AdaGirl View Post

        I guess I’m a bit gun shy. That 3, 4 page thing frightens me!
        You obviously understand the business model clearly and will do just fine with targeted traffic and a reasonable email series. In my mind, these both matter far more than the site, really: that's only there to collect the opt-in and (for me, anyway) to avoid using a pure squeeze-page instead of a "bloggy sort of site" or whatever. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Fallaize
    There are many ways to go about your niche site, so your best bet is to try all of them and split test.

    People are more likely to buy from you again if they have already purchased from you, so you can keep offering them further products until they stop buying. Offering a choice of products will also increase the likely hood of your potential customer buying something. The question is, will they buy more from you if you offer them products one after another, or offer them all at once for a big choice? Or perhaps a balance of both? Split test to find out.

    To soft sell or not to soft sell? Really depends on how good the product's sales page is. If it catches their attention straight away and gets good conversions, then your niche site soft sell may actually reduce sales. Test using a soft sell article vs video vs just email marketing.

    Hope it helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Regardless of what you do regarding offer selection, make sure you do not build a thin content site.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarrenPeterson
    I have one niche site that is focused on a single product, yes. It has done very well for me, for about 7 years. I do have two variations of that same product, at two price points, but it stays focused. It is more of a micro-niche site, the "normal" funnel and expansion do not apply here, and I'm ok with that. I do that elsewhere...

    So even though it works for me, it isn't the easiest, I would say that it is better to not be so narrowly focused.
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    • Profile picture of the author AdaGirl
      Thanks everyone. This is all such great advice and a confidence boost that I am heading in the right direction. Now I just need to strike that balance of not going out the gate with a site that is "too thin". There certainly seem to be a lot of differing opinions regarding "how thin is too thin".

      What I did was list out the bare minimum of things that I feel must be in place prior to "going live" and now I am working through these. I feel it is a fairly reasonable start as long as I stay focused and keep writing thereafter. The next thing to research will be about how much to put into the email responder series prior to starting. I think I saw a thread or two here on this topic.

      Thanks and stay tuned!
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Ya I would focus a niche site on just 1 product and building your list for that product, some type of bonus list usually works best.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by thedanbrown View Post

      Ya I would focus a niche site on just 1 product and building your list for that product, some type of bonus list usually works best.
      I disagree.

      Why only be promoting 1 single product when you can be promoting many? Some people might not like that one product you're promoting, it may not be a good fit for them at all, but if you're promoting many they'll surely find something they like if they're interested in your niche.

      Constantly pushing the same product over and over again onto your list would get tiresome for them.
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