putting videos on a website....

RebeccaLynn · 04-24-2009, 12:30 AM

Hi Warriors,

I'm wondering what your take is on the best way to put a video on your website.

I've heard that flash or swf files are preferable to wmv files... However, I just got done converting my wmv to a swf format and the size went from 6,468 kb to 32,667 kb... So, that's a lot bigger and probably going to load a lot more slowly, right?

Is there a way that I can shrink the file.... or should I stick with wmv.... or is there something better that I'm not aware of?

Thanks for any suggestions.....

Rebecca

lifesshort · 04-24-2009, 01:57 AM

Hi RebeccaLyn

I don't know if this will help but only last week I needed to put quite a few videos on a clients web page, I discovered that it was best to use flash. I'm sure there are plenty of pieces of software out there that will do the job but I was in a hurry so didn't have much time to look around the Internet. I ended up going to a site through a blog post.

You can Click Here to go to the site I went too or have a look around for flash software.

Personally I think you need to use flash video because; Maybe it will help you.

A) flash seems to be the most popular format

B) it compresses your file to a more acceptable file size for loading on a web page

For me it was really easy to use and it didn't cost a lot, although I'm sure that there will be free software out there somewhere if you look or that someone on this forum can point you to.

1mikeelliott · 04-24-2009, 02:53 AM

I agree with Monk, just upload to youtube and grab the embed code. Seems to be the fastest and easiest. Good luck, Mike

ediddy02 · 04-24-2009, 04:12 AM

I would recommend you use flash cos of its compression ability

RebeccaLynn · 04-24-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkfunk

2 things i recommend:

1. just upload to youtube and embed it on your page
2. turn it into an FLV file and import that into flash, then upload to your server and import your SWF HTML code into your document

if you are not video and flash savvy, I would say option 1

Thanks! I would do youtube, but I don't want my sales page welcome message to show up on youtube.

Is there a program you recommend for converting wmv to flv?

Thanks!

Rebecca

RebeccaLynn · 04-24-2009, 03:01 PM

I've been looking for a free tool to convert wmv to flv but I can't find any that do the full conversion for free...

any suggestions?

thanks!

DanielFonda · 04-24-2009, 04:24 PM

I (usually) simply use youtube videos (for my sites and blogs). Meaning that if I want a self recorded video on my site or blog I simply film it, upload it to youtube (or anything similar) and paste the code of the youtube player in the html code.

RebeccaLynn · 04-25-2009, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebeccaLynn

Thanks! I would do youtube, but I don't want my sales page welcome message to show up on youtube.

Youtube is great.... but as I mentioned above...

Quentin · 04-25-2009, 02:06 AM

Converting WMV will often create a lot bigger file as it does all sorts of conversions. If you have Camtasia you can add it in there and then recompile which will still keep the size small.

Recompiling will always do a much better job than converting.

You can also embed your wmv video inside your webpage quite easily if you want to. The only people who you will miss are the mac users.

There are also a lot better public video sites to upload to that will maintain the quality far better than youtube.

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If its going on your front page however I would never use public video sites as people can click away to easily.

Quentin

JohnWray · 04-25-2009, 03:41 AM

Not sure what all conversions it will do but I have used a free converter "Prism" that converted some video so I COULD put them on YouTube. Might be worth a shot. I found it by doing a Google search for video file converters or free video file converters.

Steve Robertson · 04-25-2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebeccaLynn

I just got done converting my wmv to a swf format and the size went from 6,468 kb to 32,667 kb... So, that's a lot bigger and probably going to load a lot more slowly, right?

Is there a way that I can shrink the file.... or should I stick with wmv.... or is there something better that I'm not aware of?

Hi Rebecca,

To get the best quality and a small file size, the best bet is to go back to the original video - before it was encoded as a WMV file. Then encode this original video as Flash video (.flv).

If this is a video someone else created and you don't have access to the original video, my favorite conversion software is MPEG Streamclip. Just Google that name to download it for free.

Steve Robertson
R.A.M. Video

TheCren · 04-25-2009, 09:38 AM

I would just upload all the videos to YouTube and use their embed feature. If you have a WordPress blog, there's a few plugins you should take a look at: smart-youtube and tubepress are a couple.

Loren Woirhaye · 04-25-2009, 10:20 AM

Hi Rebecca,

The price (and many people don't know this) of using YouTube
is that streaming is often choppy for viewers on wireless connections.

For this reason in general I prefer to self-host for my direct-response
videos. There are hassles with self-hosting, but I can size the file
so it gives the best balance of fast-streaming and getting my message
across.

The best standard for streaming videos is .FLV. The best codec for
most stuff is VP6 - it's proprietary which means you cannot get a
converter for VP6 for free. You can get it for about $40 here:
On2 Flix | Video Encoders for Adobe Flash Player and Sun JavaFX

You will need a player too. There are free ones available at:
JW FLV Media Player | LongTail Video | Home of the JW Player

It is well worth it to learn how to do video yourself. You get
more control over the prospect's experience and you stand
out as a professional marketer too.

liban · 04-25-2009, 11:56 AM

I JUST put my first flash video up yesterday. Had no idea what I was doing. I thought I was home free once I got the .flv file made, courtesy of my brother. Thought I could just put in the link. Nope.

After about four hours of Googling and trying stuff, I tried Coffeecup's Web Video Player. (I already use their HTML editor). Bingo. First try.

BTW, in my search I found out about RIVA, which is free and converts to .flv from all sorts of formats.

Sam101 · 04-25-2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebeccaLynn

Hi Warriors,

I'm wondering what your take is on the best way to put a video on your website.

I've heard that flash or swf files are preferable to wmv files... However, I just got done converting my wmv to a swf format and the size went from 6,468 kb to 32,667 kb... So, that's a lot bigger and probably going to load a lot more slowly, right?

Is there a way that I can shrink the file.... or should I stick with wmv.... or is there something better that I'm not aware of?

Thanks for any suggestions.....

Rebecca

Have you tried the Amazon S3 service? It allows you to host your videos on Amazon and the bandwidth is really huge at a pretty low price. It does take some technical know how however.
Regarding YouTube the video quality is not that good, you can try DailyMotion or other similar video sites where the quality is better than YouTube.

Instructor · 04-25-2009, 01:38 PM

Depends on your budget. SorensonSqueeze is good but some consider it pricey. Or you may just want to go with Riva FLV converter.

James

gentlerainman · 04-25-2009, 02:04 PM

I've used a number of different services but like uploading to Vimeo the best. Then you can create one page websites using iWeb (if you're on the Mac) or even TrafficGeyser has a very good sales page offer. If you use Vimeo make sure you pay attention to their compression guidlines. That will reduce the number of people who have difficulty watching your stuff.

Warrior Globetrotter · 04-25-2009, 03:53 PM

If your videos are longer or larger in file size, I recommend you upload them to Vimeo, not YouTube, for better performance, look and feel (and it helps that YouTube has a length limit and Vimeo doesnt seem to)...then simply copy and paste the "embed" code into the html of your site.

hope that helps

JimZ · 04-25-2009, 08:36 PM

Vimeo states that you agree to their terms which states "It is not a commercial, infomercial or other type of advertisement. Vimeo is for personal, non-commercial use only."

Is this not a problem using Vimeo if you are marketing a product?

Mynt · 04-25-2009, 08:50 PM

I've had best results converting from WAV to QT using H.264 codec.

charlie9751 · 04-26-2009, 03:44 AM

I agree - Flash every time

Marty S · 04-26-2009, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RebeccaLynn

Youtube is great.... but as I mentioned above...

Rebecca you are stuck on this in the worst way and I want to save you some undue stress now. YOu MUST find another video host (Youtube is the best but....) like vimeo, jumpcut, or viddler. Then embed it on your website.

The process of hosting your own videos can be tackled, but your problems will only begin there, especially if you are on a shared host. I highly recommend that you

DO NOT HOST YOUR OWN VIDEO.

You may have more control over it, but a certain percentage of your viewers will NEVER see your video due to connection speed, too many viewers, your shared (unknown) websites, browser compatibility... la la la

Trust me on this, because the amount of viewers not seeing your video is not only a wasted effort on your part, you will never know if it's 5% of your traffic or 55% of your traffic - WHY? Because they aren't even going to bother to complain to you about the VIDEO NOT WORKING. They will not care enough to let you know since you just killed a few minutes of theirs, and your site will be nixed off their list forever of time well spent on the internet.

Bottom line - Use a FREE hosting service (like youtube or other) and embed your web URL over the video, so no matter where it is seen, interested viewers will know where to go to get more information. No headaches, no cost, completely reliable, and bonus traffic from the video host itself.

lilydab · 04-27-2009, 03:28 AM

Isn't there an option on youtube to keep your video private?

Elliott · 04-27-2009, 04:37 AM

That's just what I was thinking, lilydab, that there was an option on Youtube to keep your video private if you wished....

Elliott

astaga · 04-27-2009, 04:51 AM

Another consideration is bandwidth.
Regardless of the video format, video coming off your own hosted site while folks are viewing the clip will add to your bandwidth usage.
Services like Youtube, etc.. have the advantage that these do eat into your bandwidth.

04-24-2009, 12:30 AM	#1
RebeccaLynn HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 225 Thanks: 53 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	putting videos on a website.... Hi Warriors, I'm wondering what your take is on the best way to put a video on your website. I've heard that flash or swf files are preferable to wmv files... However, I just got done converting my wmv to a swf format and the size went from 6,468 kb to 32,667 kb... So, that's a lot bigger and probably going to load a lot more slowly, right? Is there a way that I can shrink the file.... or should I stick with wmv.... or is there something better that I'm not aware of? Thanks for any suggestions..... Rebecca

04-24-2009, 01:57 AM	#2
lifesshort Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 45 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: putting videos on a website.... Hi RebeccaLyn I don't know if this will help but only last week I needed to put quite a few videos on a clients web page, I discovered that it was best to use flash. I'm sure there are plenty of pieces of software out there that will do the job but I was in a hurry so didn't have much time to look around the Internet. I ended up going to a site through a blog post. You can Click Here to go to the site I went too or have a look around for flash software. Personally I think you need to use flash video because; Maybe it will help you. A) flash seems to be the most popular format B) it compresses your file to a more acceptable file size for loading on a web page For me it was really easy to use and it didn't cost a lot, although I'm sure that there will be free software out there somewhere if you look or that someone on this forum can point you to.

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RebeccaLynn HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 225 Thanks: 53 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: putting videos on a website.... I've been looking for a free tool to convert wmv to flv but I can't find any that do the full conversion for free... any suggestions? thanks!

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04-25-2009, 02:06 AM	#9
Quentin DIY Internet Marketing War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 4,902 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 7 Thanked 988 Times in 448 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: putting videos on a website.... Converting WMV will often create a lot bigger file as it does all sorts of conversions. If you have Camtasia you can add it in there and then recompile which will still keep the size small. Recompiling will always do a much better job than converting. You can also embed your wmv video inside your webpage quite easily if you want to. The only people who you will miss are the mac users. There are also a lot better public video sites to upload to that will maintain the quality far better than youtube. Have a look at this on and compare Artisteer 2 the new way to design Wordpress Themes \| The Internet Marketers Club If its going on your front page however I would never use public video sites as people can click away to easily. Quentin
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astaga HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Australia, S'pore, M'sia . Posts: 165 Thanks: 7 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Re: putting videos on a website.... Another consideration is bandwidth. Regardless of the video format, video coming off your own hosted site while folks are viewing the clip will add to your bandwidth usage. Services like Youtube, etc.. have the advantage that these do eat into your bandwidth.