List Building for Vendors: How Do You Manage Multiple Products?

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How do you manage two or more related products?

It's easy with one product, you have a non-buyers' list and a buyers' list. You promote your product to the non-buyers list, and to your buyer's list, you promote affiliate products.

But with two products, you have a non-buyers' list, and three more lists:

1. One for buyers of product #1,
2. another for buyers of product #2,
3. and yet another for buyers of both products.

It seems a lot of hassle, and just gets way more complicated with yet more products.

Anyone have any experience with this? How do you deal with it?

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    How you manage this depends upon the autoresponder
    system you're using and how easy (or hard) it is to
    create segmented lists.

    I usually use separate lists for each product and then
    use automation rules and custom fields to make sure
    that my prospects and customers only receive e-mails
    that are relevant to their purchase behavior.

    The basic principle is to do whatever you can to make
    sure that you never send customers of a particluar
    product any more prospecting e-mails for that product.

    Sure, it takes more work but the better message-to-
    subscriber match is worth it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
      Hi Shaun

      Thanks for your reply. I'm on Getresponse, so automation shouldn't be a problem.

      I suppose it's clear that the most profitable method would be to have a different autoresponder series tailored specifically for the buyers of a particular product.

      It just takes so much effort to write a good, converting AR sequence, that I really wish there was some way to manage it all with just two lists - a non-buyers and buyers list.

      I'm gona sit down and plan it all out on paper.

      There doesn't seem to be much information out there on this. I'm going to have a look at a few of Jimmy D Brown's products, since he's all into list-building and selling multiple $7 ebooks.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenetix
    Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post

    How do you manage two or more related products?

    It's easy with one product, you have a non-buyers' list and a buyers' list. You promote your product to the non-buyers list, and to your buyer's list, you promote affiliate products.

    But with two products, you have a non-buyers' list, and three more lists:

    1. One for buyers of product #1,
    2. another for buyers of product #2,
    3. and yet another for buyers of both products.

    It seems a lot of hassle, and just gets way more complicated with yet more products.

    Anyone have any experience with this? How do you deal with it?

    Thanks

    Get an autoresponder system that allows you to create 2 separate lists. When you email blast, just choose either or both lists to blast to.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Here's how I do it.



    I have a buyers list for each product, and I also have my main list. So I have my main list, and I also have what I call "sub lists".

    People are either ....

    1. On my main list as non buyers
    2. On one of my product list as a buyer
    3. Both

    It doesn't matter which product they buy because they ALL end up on the main list anyway. I do this because.....

    a) I want to keep in touch with all of them
    b) I want to be able to speak directly to buyers of a certain product.

    I do this for ....

    a) Feedback about a particular product
    b) Updates to a particular product
    c) Testimonials
    d) Miscellaneous stuff....

    The answer is exactly what Shaun said above. List segmentation and automated rules. I've invested quite a bit of time into refining this and I have it down pat.

    PS. I use Aweber.
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    • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
      Hey John, nice one.

      I assume your main list is your non-buyers list. When someone buys a product, do you opt them out of the non-buyer's list? Or do you send them two concurrent newsletters?

      I gather Shaun would recommend you opt 'em out, so they don't receive emails that aren't relevant to their purchase behaviour.

      The trouble I see here though, is you're still providing useful content in your non-buyers list, content that your buyers will miss out on, UNLESS you also have non-buyers list content ALSO appear on the buyer's list, but with the product promotion taken out. But then you have the problem of sending duplicate content.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
        Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post

        Hey John, nice one.

        I assume your main list is your non-buyers list. When someone buys a product, do you opt them out of the non-buyer's list? Or do you send them two concurrent newsletters?
        No you've got it wrong.

        ALL of my subscribers, (both buyers AND non buyers) go on my main list because I want to interact with all of them.

        As I said, I spent quite some time on refining this and this strategy works well. You're making the mistake that I made - potentially "over" thinking it.

        Just keep it simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    i have a lot of my products on warrior plus so i just automatically add them to a buyers list once they have purchased

    if i make a sale from a freebie list then i will automatically take them off the freebie list then put them on the buyers list for that particular product

    having lots of products doesn't take up anymore of your time because everything should get delivered automatically but the more products you have and the more sales you make then the more support emails you will get but this is all part of the business

    with all my buyers lists i still do have 1 - 2 main freebie lists that i use to convert freebies into paying customers

    paul
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Here look, for example, I have this system setup on this site.

    Think Freelancing | Business Solutions For Freelance Web Developers

    Whenever I publish a new entry to my blog, I send out a broadcast email to my main list (which is everyone)

    Think Freelancing | Freelance Web Designers Blog

    Then of course, as people buy my products (listed here) Think Freelancing | Freelance Web Design Business Solutions

    ....they go onto the buyers list for the products they've purchased.

    Make sense?
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    • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
      Thanks for your input John. I get what you're saying. It's definitely something to try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
    Right, so having taken some useful input from you good folk, and having looked at Mark Sisson's plan over at marksdailyapple.com, here's my plan:

    1. Non-buyer's list: This will be a pre-set autoresponder series that lasts a few months to a year, with a step-by-step course for anyone who joins. In this one, I'll make both overt and subtle references to my paid products. Buyers will automatically be unsubscribed from this list.

    2. Main (broadcast) list: Everyone will join this list. Any time I make a post on my website, my subscribers will get an update. The posts on my website will have very subtle references to my products, whilst giving excellent value in the post itself. Buyers will not get unsubscribed from this list.

    3. Separate buyers lists for each product, each list promoting the product(s) the buyer has not yet bought.

    Now I've decided to do things a little differently from what you suggested John, because I prefer to have a refined sales funnel go out automatically as an autoresponder series.

    I'll see how it goes anyway.

    Any feedback would be apprecaited

    Oh, and what I noticed Mark Sisson does is he signs you up for a 7-day course through an autoresponder series, while at the same time sending broadcasts of his website posts. With the 7-day course, the emails themselves have product advertisements separately at the bottom of each email, titled "Spotlight". The email links to the full article on his website, where he very cleverly promotes a couple of freebies along with his products as a post script.

    With the broadcasts, there are also separate ads to his products within the email, like unrelated banner ads. The email leads links to the full article on his website. On his website article, there are no real references to his products.
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