Geez I'm a slow learner...

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Hey guys
So Empower Network is a pyramid scam...
I'm a member and I just figured it out. Bummer.

I've been a member since Nov12, but didn't actually do much with it until this last month. I went to the live event in Chicago, which was similar to a cult gathering, where people just idolize the few people at the top earning money. Some of them even cried on stage because they are so 'passionate' about helping people...

But I can't do it anymore. I can't promote a product I know is bogus.

I have the 25/month thing and the affiliate fee 19.95/month and I bought the 1000 dollar 15k Formula. I made 6 sales and build a list of like 1000 but all of my members quit after 1 month.

Even if I was making money with it I would still feel this way I think.

The problem with the whole system is people buy it, to learn how to sell it, so other people will buy it...

The products themselves I think are ok. I have learnt a lot from the 15k formula.

And I suppose 25/month for a blog, with hosting, banners, a squeeze page and sales video, along with the fact you can rebrand any link on their site to your personal affiliate link means you do get a lot of 'content'. Not saying it's a great deal but I suppose it's not too bad. Literally all you have to do is log in and blog. But what is the point?

I came back from the live event totally pumped thinking it was totally legit. I met some really nice people who are making money. I think a lot of people in Empower don't actually think about what they are doing they just get caught up in the hype and hypnotic sales speeches. They're not all bad people, they've just been sold the dream by some very good yet dubious marketers.

The other thing that will get them is David Wood put on his facebook wall a few months ago that they have 33% customers and 67% affiliates, and Im sure now it's probably a worse ratio. SO the sales force outnumbers the customers?!?!? Surely that's a bit dodgy?

Anyway that is my rant over.

At least I learnt a few lessons. Some of the training and motivational stuff they peddle is actually not bad and has some good actionable techniques but overall it's just recruiting more people to learn how to recruit more people etc

Thoughts? Any similar experiences?

Oh and EN members, I'm a huge 'wussie' most definitely not as 'bad-ass' as you...
Might eve post this on my EN blog and see what happens...

Peace
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  • Profile picture of the author NatesMarketing
    Sounds like those Quixtar/Amway fanatics.

    Man they're everywhere...
  • Profile picture of the author tz6119
    At least your learning. Everyone at there own pace I guess.
  • Profile picture of the author JoeMack
    Sorry to hear that you spent so much time and money on something that didn't pan out. Don't feel bad. Most people have gotten into something we thought was legitimate, only to find out later that it wasn't.

    Hopefully for the money you spent, there were some lessons learned (even if they were basic lessons).

    Dust yourself off, girl. Figure out your new road and get going.

    Much Success,

    JoeMack
  • Profile picture of the author onlineworker11
    Well I am a Empower Network member and have completel trust in this business
    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
      Banned
      The Empower Network was mentioned in a previous thread and I said then that MLM - in whatever guise - is a mugs game. People at the mid to tail end of these schemes are the one's who suffer and anyone with an ounce of integrity and common sense will steer well clear. Unfortunately, greed is a potent persuader.


      Originally Posted by onlineworker11 View Post

      Well I am a Empower Network member and have completel trust in this business
      ^^^ The typical, blinkered fool that these schemes attract ^^^
  • Profile picture of the author Chris Silvey
    Originally Posted by primetime345 View Post

    Hey guys
    So Empower Network is a pyramid scam...
    I'm a member and I just figured it out. Bummer.

    I've been a member since Nov12, but didn't actually do much with it until this last month. I went to the live event in Chicago, which was similar to a cult gathering, where people just idolize the few people at the top earning money. Some of them even cried on stage because they are so 'passionate' about helping people...

    But I can't do it anymore. I can't promote a product I know is bogus.

    I have the 25/month thing and the affiliate fee 19.95/month and I bought the 1000 dollar 15k Formula. I made 6 sales and build a list of like 1000 but all of my members quit after 1 month.

    Even if I was making money with it I would still feel this way I think.

    The problem with the whole system is people buy it, to learn how to sell it, so other people will buy it...

    The products themselves I think are ok. I have learnt a lot from the 15k formula.

    And I suppose 25/month for a blog, with hosting, banners, a squeeze page and sales video, along with the fact you can rebrand any link on their site to your personal affiliate link means you do get a lot of 'content'. Not saying it's a great deal but I suppose it's not too bad. Literally all you have to do is log in and blog. But what is the point?

    I came back from the live event totally pumped thinking it was totally legit. I met some really nice people who are making money. I think a lot of people in Empower don't actually think about what they are doing they just get caught up in the hype and hypnotic sales speeches. They're not all bad people, they've just been sold the dream by some very good yet dubious marketers.

    The other thing that will get them is David Wood put on his facebook wall a few months ago that they have 33% customers and 67% affiliates, and Im sure now it's probably a worse ratio. SO the sales force outnumbers the customers?!?!? Surely that's a bit dodgy?

    Anyway that is my rant over.

    At least I learnt a few lessons. Some of the training and motivational stuff they peddle is actually not bad and has some good actionable techniques but overall it's just recruiting more people to learn how to recruit more people etc

    Thoughts? Any similar experiences?

    Oh and EN members, I'm a huge 'wussie' most definitely not as 'bad-ass' as you...
    Might eve post this on my EN blog and see what happens...

    Peace
    Well I am glad you woke up!
    I see many people tooken in by EN and I try to warn them of all the fleecing.
    I even warn EN members not to put all their eggs in one basket in that I have seen an orgainized effort to get the EN deindexed for web spam on Google. If that ever happened, the whole organization goes down be it legit or not.
    • Profile picture of the author themichaelcook
      Thats what this business is about, Is learning and moving forward... If i was you i would start branding yourself instead of some sales system like EN...

      Therefore once you brand yourself with your own blog and your own products promoting you and not EN Products then you will be just fine...
    • Profile picture of the author rickwill71
      pick yourself up, dust yourself off, you'll be o.k. there's a lot of good oppurtunities out there, stick with the forum.

      good luck
  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Joins Empower, makes sales "This is great!"

    Has no leadership skills so his team quit because he didn't help them "Man, this Empower network sucks..."
  • Profile picture of the author World Marketing
    Never got into empower network because I heard too many negative reviews about it and also read threads like this one...
  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Most of us get sucked in to something like that, so don't feel bad. I did Amway, and Herbalife which sells a very good product my wife still takes. But we don't sell any of that stuff any more or coerce others to the dreams of making others rich so we can roil in the fields.

    The theory is good, but the practice never works out right.

    But welcome to the real world. Onward and upwards.
  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Would this be the same for pureleverage?
  • Profile picture of the author Gary Ning Lo
    You learned from your mistakes and you have a great trait which is integrity.

    Forgot about this stuff and move on to other more legit ways of making money.

    Cheers,

    Gary
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