E-Mail Marketing Relationship Building

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How many days does it generally take to make a sale with an autoreponder. I know that it all depends on niche and a lot of other variables.

Does it normally take 15 days, 30 days, 45 days?

I guess the question is, how long does it normally take for people to feel comfortable enough with you before they start to buy? I currently have my autoresponder set up for a month worth of messages and haven't seen much activity as far as sales.

My open rate and CTR are pretty good, but I'm not sure if I'm giving it enough time to form that relationship for people to feel comfortable enough to buy.

I want to make sure that it's the amount of time on my list and not the copy in my e-mail messages or something else.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    They're are a few variables there to be honest.

    The most obvious is how much traffic are you sending to the page? Like, if you send 1 click to a sales page or 100 clicks to a sales page more often than not the later is more likely (but not always) to make the sale.

    Plus how well are you pre-selling in your emails? How well are you warming up the traffic that you send to the sales page? That's a big thing. You could only send one click to a sales page and make the sale if you've called out to the right person and written the right kind of email.

    Should you sell in the first email or after a series of five (or whatever) is down to what you feel comfortable with and what you think will work best.

    I like the analogy of marketers selling cures and relief for toothache. Should you sell them now or should you wait five days, a week or a month...? I'm guessing they want that cure yesterday -- so why wait?
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
      There are many variables involved in if/when someone
      is ready to buy from you. Like...

      How urgently they want to solve their problem.

      How well you have proven that your solution would
      solve their problem.

      How frequently you've contacted them.

      The price of your solution.

      And more.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by dickyrader View Post

    I know that it all depends on niche and a lot of other variables.
    Yes, this is right - the key words being "a lot".

    Probably the main thing it depends on is the extent to which you've fulfilled your subscribers' expectations (which in turn depends largely on how you set them in the first place).

    Originally Posted by dickyrader View Post

    Does it normally take 15 days, 30 days, 45 days?
    It depends what you mean by "normally".

    "Normally" defined as "the average of all your subscribers" is of course hugely different from "normally" defined as "the average of all your subscribers who buy anything at all".

    I put my first email product promotion, typically, in the third or fourth email, which goes out usually on day 10, and I expect many sales from that email. (Obviously different subscribers receive it at different times).

    Originally Posted by dickyrader View Post

    I want to make sure that it's the amount of time on my list and not the copy in my e-mail messages or something else.
    It's very hard to judge this, isn't it? But having a high open-rate is always a good sign, I think. As long as you can maintain a high open-rate, you can't be doing too much wrong and what you are doing wrong will always be correctable. It's when open-rates plummet that you're in trouble, and have to use up a lot of time, energy and effort trying to convince yourself that "low open-rates are normal in this industry". :p

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    You should expect sales from the very first email - if you know what you're doing.

    As long as your list is responsive, every single email you send out will produce sales.

    For instance...

    Let's say you drive traffic to your squeeze page via Bing PPC (leading prospects to your sales page upon opt-in.)

    I'd be happy with a initial conversion rate of about 4 - 5%, because it proves you're doing a good job connecting with the emotions your audience is largely feeling (and wants resolution to.)

    My philosophy is:

    If I can get a 4% conversion rate, there's no reason why I can mop up sales and elevate my overall conversion to a 6-8% - with the right follow-up.

    My first autoresponder will go about reiterating my main marketing message from a completely different perspective, while adding some depth to the urgency and consequence for taking immediate action.

    Again...

    You're just continuing the conversation you have measurable data that says people are definitely interested in.

    You're just taking the time to overcome more objections, build more consequence, explore more of the life-changing benefits, and if possible, spotlight a greater degree of social proof (i.e. testimonials and/or reviews.)

    Email sequences are light and extremely conversational. You're not making a hard sale.

    Rather...

    You're diving into just one subject (at a time) and matching the tonality in your copy.

    As you build the conversation (in each subsequent email,) you're taking the time to both reiterate and explore the possibilities that your solution creates in people's lives from different perspectives.

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    • Profile picture of the author RockNRolla
      Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti View Post

      You should expect sales from the very first email - if you know what you're doing.

      As long as your list is responsive, every single email you send out will produce sales.

      For instance...

      Let's say you drive traffic to your squeeze page via Bing PPC (leading prospects to your sales page upon opt-in.)

      I'd be happy with a initial conversion rate of about 4 - 5%, because it proves you're doing a good job connecting with the emotions your audience is largely feeling (and wants resolution to.)

      My philosophy is:

      If I can get a 4% conversion rate, there's no reason why I can mop up sales and elevate my overall conversion to a 6-8% - with the right follow-up.

      My first autoresponder will go about reiterating my main marketing message from a completely different perspective, while adding some depth to the urgency and consequence for taking immediate action.

      Again...

      You're just continuing the conversation you have measurable data that says people are definitely interested in.

      You're just taking the time to overcome more objections, build more consequence, explore more of the life-changing benefits, and if possible, spotlight a greater degree of social proof (i.e. testimonials and/or reviews.)

      Email sequences are light and extremely conversational. You're not making a hard sale.

      Rather...

      You're diving into just one subject (at a time) and matching the tonality in your copy.

      As you build the conversation (in each subsequent email,) you're taking the time to both reiterate and explore the possibilities that your solution creates in people's lives from different perspectives.

      mark
      Couldn't agree with you more here. Especially the part about following up an already successful email with another one to get that second wave of people still on the fence to convert.
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  • Profile picture of the author twinkenterprises
    It's good if you're getting a high open rate. I used to have an autoresponder and no one really opened anything. I think that's the part that shows how well you will sell. How many people see and click through to your offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Germanakos
    "frank" methods would be really useful answers to your query my friend. Everything has to do with giving value to your list. Actually don't sell on them. People are not number they are human beings. Help them and they will buy without asking them to do so
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    If your open and click rate are high but you're not making sales then there are a few issues that might be arising...you haven't built a relationship with your subs so they don't trust you to buy, your sales copy is bad and doesn't convince them, your product isn't good, what you are offering doesn't solve their problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      It's kind of like dating. Some couples take a long time to warm up to each other while some feel that instant 'love at first sight' connection.

      The former takes as long as it takes, while for the latter all you have to do is ask...

      So what is "normal"? If your month of emails isn't getting you sales, then 'normal' for you is longer than a month...
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    After doing list building for a few months now, the best way to build a strong relationship with your subscribers is to use stories.

    -Share a little personal stuff that has happened to you that week.

    -Share a story of how you crashed your website by messing around with Google.

    -Share a story of how you doubled conversions to your website using a simple trick.

    And you can use stories in any niche.

    People love stories. People love curiosity. And if you mix and use them both together in your marketing efforts, you'll make a LOT of money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

      After doing list building for a few months now, the best way to build a strong relationship with your subscribers is to use stories.

      -Share a little personal stuff that has happened to you that week.

      -Share a story of how you crashed your website by messing around with Google.

      -Share a story of how you doubled conversions to your website using a simple trick.

      And you can use stories in any niche.

      People love stories. People love curiosity. And if you mix and use them both together in your marketing efforts, you'll make a LOT of money.
      Hold on, weren't you posting on here last week than no one was opening your emails or clicking your links anymore due to your story telling?

      In my experience IM related stories tend to be boring...at least I find them boring anyway. Works much better in other niches like dating, travel and gambling for example because you can get some pretty wild stories that are really interesting to read.
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      • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
        Originally Posted by RockingLastsForever View Post

        Hold on, weren't you posting on here last week than no one was opening your emails or clicking your links anymore due to your story telling?

        In my experience IM related stories tend to be boring...at least I find them boring anyway. Works much better in other niches like dating, travel and gambling for example because you can get some pretty wild stories that are really interesting to read.
        LOL I changed things around and made my stories more like a soap opera with cliff hangers and stuff.

        So far so good
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    Story telling is a great thing to do, as it shows that you've got a personality.

    Have you used video at all in your follow-up series? If people know what you like, what sort of accent you have, and an idea of how your mind works they will know what to expect. If you can gain the trust of your audience by sharing blog posts and having a consistent message you should do well.

    Focus in on being an expert in one area, don't try to sell seo products one day, then list building stuff, and wordpress plugins the next.

    Just remember to be yourself, and treat your list how you would like to be treated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jtraits
    just by using that method, it will take up to a lot of time... combine anything you can think of but make sure you have time to spend or else it will be useless
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    Sometime it might just be that the product you are promoting is not converting at all. You might want to promote another product which might converts for you. You might need to test out different email sequences before you find the one that works for you. Having a good open rate is good as it means you just need to tweak your email message to get them to buy
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  • Profile picture of the author ThorBorwick
    Originally Posted by dickyrader View Post

    How many days does it generally take to make a sale with an autoreponder. I know that it all depends on niche and a lot of other variables.

    Does it normally take 15 days, 30 days, 45 days?

    I guess the question is, how long does it normally take for people to feel comfortable enough with you before they start to buy? I currently have my autoresponder set up for a month worth of messages and haven't seen much activity as far as sales.

    My open rate and CTR are pretty good, but I'm not sure if I'm giving it enough time to form that relationship for people to feel comfortable enough to buy.

    I want to make sure that it's the amount of time on my list and not the copy in my e-mail messages or something else.

    Thanks
    There is some factors here to take in to consideration:

    -Is your subscribers buyers or freebie hunters?
    If they bought a oto from you,your e-mails will convert better in general.

    If you had a giveaway for the subscribe this usually need to be some valuable stuff if you want your later follow ups to convert good. This is also important to build a relationship with your subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    Soap opera style stories are great IF it's getting people to buy...is it?
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